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Post by Jetworks on Sept 11, 2022 15:11:18 GMT -5
Not so good (ok, bad):
Flacco may still have a strong arm, but even at his best he's a poor fit for the quick set and arm resets required of this offensive scheme. AVT still doesn't pass the eye test for me. Dude is just too inconsistent. The sooner Lamarcus Joyner finds the bench, the better. The TEs just disappeared. I was promised this problem was (finally) fixed. Fant has me a bit worried. Run game had early success but lacked consistent playcalling. Corey Davis continues to disappear for long stretches. Did I mention the lack of TE play?
Not so bad:
Garrett Wilson looks like a baller. So does Michael Carter. Breece Hall will get there. Kwon Alexander is a great addition. Lawson looks powerful. DJ Reed is a steal. Defense as a whole seems improved
General observations:
Michael Clemons is VERY raw. Michael Clemons on KO coverage is great! LaFleur adjusted well. Sauce needs to tuck in his undershirt.
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Post by RobR on Sept 11, 2022 15:19:13 GMT -5
Not so good (ok, bad): Flacco may still have a strong arm, but even at his best he's a poor fit for the quick set and arm resets required of this offensive scheme. AVT still doesn't pass the eye test for me. Dude is just too inconsistent. The sooner Lamarcus Joyner finds the bench, the better. The TEs just disappeared. I was promised this problem was (finally) fixed. Fant has me a bit worried. Run game had early success but lacked consistent playcalling. Corey Davis continues to disappear for long stretches. Did I mention the lack of TE play? Not so bad: Garrett Wilson looks like a baller. So does Michael Carter. Breece Hall will get there. Kwon Alexander is a great addition. Lawson looks powerful. DJ Reed is a steal. Defense as a whole seems improved General observations: Michael Clemons is VERY raw. Michael Clemons on KO coverage is great! LaFleur adjusted well. Sauce needs to tuck in his undershirt. Good post and I agree with everything. Only other nuggets that stood out was that Max Mitchell played pretty well for a 4th round rookie who just found out he was starting. Quite possibly our best Olineman today. AVT and Tomlinson looked like crap. Fant was horrendous. Did C Uzomah even play one snap? If Flacco starts next week I'm going fishing.
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Post by Raoul Duke on Sept 11, 2022 16:35:57 GMT -5
Why no quick slants to negate the pass rush? Did Uzomah get a target at all?
I think with a slightly more mobile QB (read White) things wouldn't have been as bad.
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Post by Raoul Duke on Sept 11, 2022 17:02:42 GMT -5
With an average offense we would have been leading at the half. Defense lost its mojo seeing the offense sucking as much.
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Post by 32Green on Sept 11, 2022 17:04:40 GMT -5
Def. a feeling that Saleh and LaFleur have no real vision for this Offense. I get that they lost Wilson, but they had the pieces (Including TE's as you mentioned) to game plan around Flacco's weaknesses. I saw no evidence they did that. I said uh oh as soon as I saw Fant griping about moving to the left side, but Mitchell on the right did ok, so that's a good sign.
Also, the usual Jets stuff; Refs missing obvious penalties, calling dubious ones, fumbles, dropped passes etc...It would be easy to drop this in Flacco's lap, but we pretty got the Flacco '22 we expected. What did we do to help him? Just seemed like there was no real sense of urgency on Salehs part.
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Post by RobR on Sept 11, 2022 17:04:51 GMT -5
Why no quick slants to negate the pass rush? Did Uzomah get a target at all? I think with a slightly more mobile QB (read White) things wouldn't have been as bad. I can't find the snap counts for the game but I don't remember Uzomah playing a snap. They were using Cager instead.
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Post by RobR on Sept 11, 2022 17:06:27 GMT -5
With an average offense we would have been leading at the half. Defense lost its mojo seeing the offense sucking as much. That's been our modus operandi for the last 20 plus years. When is the last time the Jets had a top 10 offense? 1998?
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Post by RobR on Sept 11, 2022 17:07:59 GMT -5
Def. a feeling that Saleh and LaFleur have no real vision for this Offense. I get that they lost Wilson, but they had the pieces (Including TE's as you mentioned) to game plan around Flacco's weaknesses. I saw no evidence they did that. I said uh oh as soon as I saw Fant griping about moving to the left side, but Mitchell on the right did ok, so that's a good sign. Also, the usual Jets stuff; Refs missing obvious penalties, calling dubious ones, fumbles, dropped passes etc...It would be easy to drop this in Flacco's lap, but we pretty got the Flacco '22 we expected. What did we do to help him? Just seemed like there was no real sense of urgency on Salehs part. I thought Lafleur did decent with what he had to work with last year....I'm still trying to find one thing Saleh has done well.
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Post by Raoul Duke on Sept 11, 2022 17:13:05 GMT -5
Why no quick slants to negate the pass rush? Did Uzomah get a target at all? I think with a slightly more mobile QB (read White) things wouldn't have been as bad. I can't find the snap counts for the game but I don't remember Uzomah playing a snap. They were using Cager instead. No he was on the field quite a bit. Conklin did seem to get the majority of the snaps.
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Post by JetRepulsion1 on Sept 11, 2022 17:19:32 GMT -5
Not so good (ok, bad): Flacco may still have a strong arm, but even at his best he's a poor fit for the quick set and arm resets required of this offensive scheme. AVT still doesn't pass the eye test for me. Dude is just too inconsistent. The sooner Lamarcus Joyner finds the bench, the better. The TEs just disappeared. I was promised this problem was (finally) fixed. Fant has me a bit worried. Run game had early success but lacked consistent playcalling. Corey Davis continues to disappear for long stretches. Did I mention the lack of TE play? Not so bad: Garrett Wilson looks like a baller. So does Michael Carter. Breece Hall will get there. Kwon Alexander is a great addition. Lawson looks powerful. DJ Reed is a steal. Defense as a whole seems improved General observations: Michael Clemons is VERY raw. Michael Clemons on KO coverage is great! LaFleur adjusted well. Sauce needs to tuck in his undershirt. Good post and I agree with everything. Only other nuggets that stood out was that Max Mitchell played pretty well for a 4th round rookie who just found out he was starting. Quite possibly our best Olineman today. AVT and Tomlinson looked like crap. Fant was horrendous. Did C Uzomah even play one snap? If Flacco starts next week I'm going fishing. This is a QB driven league and Flacco should have retired 5 years ago. Only reason he’s still playing is because moronic inept organizations like the jets keep signing and paying him. This cunt should be in a rocking chair eating prunes. I’m not watching another game with him playing.
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Post by 32Green on Sept 11, 2022 17:26:42 GMT -5
Good post and I agree with everything. Only other nuggets that stood out was that Max Mitchell played pretty well for a 4th round rookie who just found out he was starting. Quite possibly our best Olineman today. AVT and Tomlinson looked like crap. Fant was horrendous. Did C Uzomah even play one snap? If Flacco starts next week I'm going fishing. This cunt should be in a rocking chair eating prunes.
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Post by Trades on Sept 11, 2022 17:31:26 GMT -5
Good post and I agree with everything. Only other nuggets that stood out was that Max Mitchell played pretty well for a 4th round rookie who just found out he was starting. Quite possibly our best Olineman today. AVT and Tomlinson looked like crap. Fant was horrendous. Did C Uzomah even play one snap? If Flacco starts next week I'm going fishing. This is a QB driven league and Flacco should have retired 5 years ago. Only reason he’s still playing is because moronic inept organizations like the jets keep signing and paying him. This cunt should be in a rocking chair eating prunes. I’m not watching another game with him playing. So we'll see you here next Sunday?
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Post by DDNYjets on Sept 11, 2022 18:03:26 GMT -5
Gotta agree with AVT. His pass pro left some to be desired last season. I thought the whole OL struggled. Probably a function of them not playing together much. And the Ravens dont really have any premium pass rushers so thats concerning.
The lack of easy throws to the TEs and checkdowns to our RBs concerned me. These are automatics around the league. Yet we just cant seem to do it.
I wasnt paying much attention to Mitchell who probably struggled but I thought our other rookies played well outside of the Hall fumble. He doesnt have a history of it so I think he will be fine. That said, Carter needs to be getting 2/3rds of the looks. At this point he is better.
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Post by Trades on Sept 11, 2022 18:15:48 GMT -5
And the Giants are going to win
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Post by crossfire on Sept 11, 2022 18:37:39 GMT -5
Saleh & LeFleur don’t seem to have the vision to see when things are failing miserably. Flacco failed today but they will look at his numbers and convince themselves that he was good.
They won’t change anything & take another loss next week that looks the same as this one.
At least the vagiants coach showed that he had a set of ball today. More than I can say for the Jets staff.
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