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Post by sec.101row23 on Dec 2, 2014 11:12:52 GMT -5
So let's look at the 2015 cap situation. Let's go on the assumption that the cap will be 140M, it could actually be higher given some of the new TV deals worked out, but let's stay on the conservative side.
Right now now the Jets have approximately 99M committed to the 2015 roster, that leaves 41 million in remaing space. Now add in approx. 11M in carry over from this year and we are at 52M.
If you make a few obvious cuts like Pace and CJ that saves another 5M. We are up to 57M. That is still with Harvin counting 10M against the cap, if you cut or restructure him there is additional savings.
Sounds great right? But with that the following players are not under contract and their positions need to be addressed. Harris, Landry, Vick, Harrison, Colon, Powell, are all not under contract. Not a big deal as none of those guys, except for Harrison, are not easily replaceable. Add in replacing Pace and CJ and you have a number of starting positions that need to be bought.
Of the available 57M, I would say that the max spent will be around 48-49M. There are also 12 teams, maybe more depending on carry over and cuts, that will have over 30M in cap space. Good year to be a free agent.
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Post by carlito1171 on Dec 2, 2014 11:39:23 GMT -5
52 M's in cap space?
Even more incentive to blow it up. How many GM's worth a damn would sign up for a blank canvas like that?(50mil in cap + top 5 pick)
A couple of those players should be let go(Landry, Colon, slight possibility for Harris), but then we still have to fill those starting spots.
The top of the franchise(FO then CS) needs to be sorted out before we have a better gauge on the direction we will take in the offseason as far as filling out the roster....
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Post by sec.101row23 on Dec 2, 2014 11:45:56 GMT -5
52 M's in cap space? Even more incentive to blow it up. How many GM's worth a damn would sign up for a blank canvas like that?(50mil in cap + top 5 pick) A couple of those players should be let go(Landry, Colon, slight possibility for Harris), but then we still have to fill those starting spots. The top of the franchise(FO then CS) needs to be sorted out before we have a better gauge on the direction we will take in the offseason as far as filling out the roster.... That's why if Idzik is retained he will be here for at least another 3 years. You just can't allow him to hire a new HC and then say he has one year to prove himself. That is essentially doing the same thing that has been done over and over again with this franchise. You either fire Idzik or commit another few years to him. |
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Post by carlito1171 on Dec 2, 2014 11:53:05 GMT -5
52 M's in cap space? Even more incentive to blow it up. How many GM's worth a damn would sign up for a blank canvas like that?(50mil in cap + top 5 pick) A couple of those players should be let go(Landry, Colon, slight possibility for Harris), but then we still have to fill those starting spots. The top of the franchise(FO then CS) needs to be sorted out before we have a better gauge on the direction we will take in the offseason as far as filling out the roster.... That's why if Idzik is retained he will be here for at least another 3 years. You just can't allow him to hire a new HC and then say he has one year to prove himself. That is essentially doing the same thing that has been done over and over again with this franchise. You either fire Idzik or commit another few years to him. Yup, what coach worth a damn will come here with a GM on the hot seat? You get rid of him now, or commit to him and his new HC in a marriage arrangement(then fire them both if you decide it's time to make a move) |
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Post by Lithfan on Dec 2, 2014 11:58:47 GMT -5
52 M's in cap space? Even more incentive to blow it up. How many GM's worth a damn would sign up for a blank canvas like that?(50mil in cap + top 5 pick) A couple of those players should be let go(Landry, Colon, slight possibility for Harris), but then we still have to fill those starting spots. The top of the franchise(FO then CS) needs to be sorted out before we have a better gauge on the direction we will take in the offseason as far as filling out the roster.... That's why if Idzik is retained he will be here for at least another 3 years. You just can't allow him to hire a new HC and then say he has one year to prove himself. That is essentially doing the same thing that has been done over and over again with this franchise. You either fire Idzik or commit another few years to him. And that what scares me the most about keeping Idzik. If we bring in a new coach but keep the GM, and he royally fucks up the draft and free agency, then where do we go a year from now. This team is awful, we are near rock bottom -- below average talent, below average coaching, no likely short term fix. Time to clean house and move on. |
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Post by Touchable on Dec 2, 2014 12:06:00 GMT -5
Definitely have room to improve the roster.
I still say make either Iupati or Justin Houston your big splash FA signing and then bring in a couple of mid tier guys like Byron Maxwell, Rahim Moore and a young veteran QB like Bradford, McCoy or Locker.
I'd re-sign Snacks, Harris and maybe Powell and let the rest walk.
I'd prefer to address defensive needs like CB and OLB in FA and then look to the draft to shore up the offense.
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Post by sec.101row23 on Dec 2, 2014 12:13:03 GMT -5
Definitely have room to improve the roster. I still say make either Iupati or Justin Houston your big splash FA signing and then bring in a couple of mid tier guys like Byron Maxwell, Rahim Moore and a young veteran QB like Bradford, McCoy or Locker. I'd re-sign Snacks, Harris and maybe Powell and let the rest walk. I'd prefer to address defensive needs like CB and OLB in FA and then look to the draft to shore up the offense. So much depends on what kind of defense this team will be running next year. If they move to a 4-3 there is no way I bring back Harris, I actually don't want him back regardless. |
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Post by Touchable on Dec 2, 2014 12:21:26 GMT -5
Definitely have room to improve the roster. I still say make either Iupati or Justin Houston your big splash FA signing and then bring in a couple of mid tier guys like Byron Maxwell, Rahim Moore and a young veteran QB like Bradford, McCoy or Locker. I'd re-sign Snacks, Harris and maybe Powell and let the rest walk. I'd prefer to address defensive needs like CB and OLB in FA and then look to the draft to shore up the offense. So much depends on what kind of defense this team will be running next year. If they move to a 4-3 there is no way I bring back Harris, I actually don't want him back regardless. If we switch primarily to a 4-3, then I agree. I'd let Harris walk and sign someone like K.J. Wright from Seattle and would become open to drafting someone like Vic Beasley if we miss out on guys like Mariota and Cooper. Wright, Davis, Beasley would have the potential to be a pretty damn awesome LB corps. But if we're sticking with a base 3-4, I wouldn't mind bringing back Harris on a 2 year deal and maybe drafting someone like Ramik Wilson or Trey DePriest in the mid-rounds to groom as a replacement. |
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Post by BEAC0NJET on Dec 2, 2014 12:23:59 GMT -5
Gotta blow it up. Rex is gone, we know that. Probably been a goner for the past year to be honest. But get rid of Idzik too. Clean slate. Bring in a GM who can hire his HC and staff, hand him a top 5 pick and 50+MM in cap space, and draft a QB to develop and build around. Closest thing we'll have to being in the right place at the right time a la the Colts and Luck.
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Post by carlito1171 on Dec 2, 2014 12:40:19 GMT -5
So much depends on what kind of defense this team will be running next year. If they move to a 4-3 there is no way I bring back Harris, I actually don't want him back regardless. If we switch primarily to a 4-3, then I agree. I'd let Harris walk and sign someone like K.J. Wright from Seattle and would become open to drafting someone like Vic Beasley if we miss out on guys like Mariota and Cooper. Wright, Davis, Beasley would have the potential to be a pretty damn awesome LB corps. But if we're sticking with a base 3-4, I wouldn't mind bringing back Harris on a 2 year deal and maybe drafting someone like Ramik Wilson or Trey DePriest in the mid-rounds to groom as a replacement. Didn't know KJ Wright was a FA. Much rather sign him and switch to a 4-3 then keep Harris(even though it shouldn't take much to re-sign him) |
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Post by Touchable on Dec 2, 2014 12:43:19 GMT -5
If we switch primarily to a 4-3, then I agree. I'd let Harris walk and sign someone like K.J. Wright from Seattle and would become open to drafting someone like Vic Beasley if we miss out on guys like Mariota and Cooper. Wright, Davis, Beasley would have the potential to be a pretty damn awesome LB corps. But if we're sticking with a base 3-4, I wouldn't mind bringing back Harris on a 2 year deal and maybe drafting someone like Ramik Wilson or Trey DePriest in the mid-rounds to groom as a replacement. Didn't know KJ Wright was a FA. Much rather sign him and switch to a 4-3 then keep Harris(even though it shouldn't take much to re-sign him) If Idzik is retained and really does have his sights set on Dan Quinn as the next HC, then I could definitely see it. |
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Post by carlito1171 on Dec 2, 2014 12:52:35 GMT -5
Didn't know KJ Wright was a FA. Much rather sign him and switch to a 4-3 then keep Harris(even though it shouldn't take much to re-sign him) If Idzik is retained and really does have his sights set on Dan Quinn as the next HC, then I could definitely see it. Dan Quinn?! Oy don't curse at me UT! L O L I can't stomach another DC hire. It's bias but IDC! |
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Post by KRL on Dec 2, 2014 13:34:19 GMT -5
Don't get caught up in whether the next coach was a DC. It's about whether he
has a vision for the way he wants his offense run and who he hires to implement
it. Some of the best offenses in the league have "defensive" coaches leading
them DEN (Fox) and NE (Belidick). That's where Ryan has failed, with all his
defensive expertise he should have been able to educate his OC in what he considered
difficult to defend. Our offense should have been built around those concepts not
the Wildcat
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Post by greengeek on Dec 2, 2014 14:34:50 GMT -5
Don't get caught up in whether the next coach was a DC. It's about whether he has a vision for the way he wants his offense run and who he hires to implement it. Some of the best offenses in the league have "defensive" coaches leading them DEN (Fox) and NE (Clitoral Hoodie). That's where Ryan has failed, with all his defensive expertise he should have been able to educate his OC in what he considered difficult to defend. Our offense should have been built around those concepts not the Wildcat I think Rex considers the run and various trick runs (reverses, misdirection, etc...) hard to defend. I think he proved that last night by running the offense "his way". |
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Post by rexneffect on Dec 2, 2014 14:51:59 GMT -5
Don't get caught up in whether the next coach was a DC. It's about whether he has a vision for the way he wants his offense run and who he hires to implement it. Some of the best offenses in the league have "defensive" coaches leading them DEN (Fox) and NE (Clitoral Hoodie). That's where Ryan has failed, with all his defensive expertise he should have been able to educate his OC in what he considered difficult to defend. Our offense should have been built around those concepts not the Wildcat I agree that we can't just look at OC candidates without running into the same problem of hiring a guy with a great resume on one side of the ball and not much to do with the other side. The focus needs to be on a HC who has a clear vision for the team and can put together a coaching staff that executes on that vision. It seems like Rex's coaching staff promptly lost anybody of great worth (e.g. Callahan) and the guys who were good but stuck around seemed at odds with him until they left (e.g. Pettine and Westhoff). I was never opposed to the idea of ground and pound and being a team that created a tactical advantage by playing a very different kind of offense but Rex rarely had the personnel for that strategy and went too far in the wrong direction with gimmicks and failed to have the kind of time management to make it work consistently. |
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