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Post by sadface on Dec 5, 2014 11:30:19 GMT -5
i think that Rex's biggest mistake in his entire career with the Jets was retaining Brian Schottyshitter when he first got hired. it absolutely REEKED of, "ok, you interviewed for this job too, so i don't want to fire you/upset you... i also dont know any offensive people in the league so you may as well be the best option"
had he fired Schitty and hired his own guy then, he would have had a much different run here
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Post by KRL on Dec 5, 2014 11:31:26 GMT -5
If this article is true it's no wonder we didn't/couldn't develop a young QB
during Ryan's six years here. With a new coach who has a clear vision for
creating/implementing an offense maybe there's still hope for Geno Smith
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Post by jetstream23 on Dec 5, 2014 11:32:36 GMT -5
By MM "sticking it" to Rex by running the ball and not allowing G-Nope to throw INTs the Jets ALMOST WON THE GAME. The operative word being "almost", if we had won proud Rex and his players could have sung home of the Jets in the locker room and give each other a pat on the back. To the rest of the world and general NFL community it stunk of desperation that you have to sink to that level of stupidity to grind out a win. Whether they won or not, they never would have come away with any credibility showcasing such a laughable offensive gameplan taking a month to put up 13 points. It's ugly all the way around. But regardless of who pushed the gameplan, it was just odd watching the Jets lose a game by 3 points when their usually reliable kicker missed 2 FGs, and the Jets basically said, "we're playing without a QB." Not too many teams could win a game over a probable playoff team when they blatantly showcase the fact that they're not going to pass the ball. |
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Post by carlito1171 on Dec 5, 2014 11:33:31 GMT -5
Of course it's Rex, its been Rex all along. The guy can call defensive plays, but that's about it. When it comes to building a team in 2014, he is ill equipped. Even Shotty looks like he has regained some competency in St. Louis under Jeff Fisher. I honestly don't get how some people say that Rex is "too hands off" with the offense. Bullshit If anything, he meddles way too damn much and should stay as far away as possible. No one can convince me that Rex hasn't been the driving force behind goofy shit like the wildcat. We've run it under 3 different OC's. How many times did Mornhinweg and Reid roll that crap out in Philly? How many times have you seen the Rams run it since Schotty went to St. Louis? The only guy with a wildcat history was Sparano and it seemed like Rex's dumbass was trying to revolve our entire offense around it in 2012 with the additions of Sparano and Tebow. He's a jackass. Good defensive mind, but a terrible gameday coach with absolutely no clue about how to run a halfway competent offense. We gotta talk to the boss about adding a rep meter because shit like this is rep worthy! |
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Post by sec.101row23 on Dec 5, 2014 11:35:04 GMT -5
i think that Rex's biggest mistake in his entire career with the Jets was retaining Brian Schottyshitter when he first got hired. it absolutely REEKED of, "ok, you interviewed for this job too, so i don't want to fire you/upset you... i also dont know any offensive people in the league so you may as well be the best option" had he fired Schitty and hired his own guy then, he would have had a much different run here How do you figure things would have been so much different had Rex not kept Shotty? Rex hired Sparano and MM, his guys, Rex could have hired a hundred different OCs, that wouldn't change his prehistoric vision of the offense. |
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Post by Harrier on Dec 5, 2014 11:40:54 GMT -5
i think that Rex's biggest mistake in his entire career with the Jets was retaining Brian Schottyshitter when he first got hired. it absolutely REEKED of, "ok, you interviewed for this job too, so i don't want to fire you/upset you... i also dont know any offensive people in the league so you may as well be the best option" had he fired Schitty and hired his own guy then, he would have had a much different run here How do you figure things would have been so much different had Rex not kept Shotty? Rex hired Sparano and MM, his guys, Rex could have hired a hundred different OCs, that wouldn't change his prehistoric vision of the offense. Looking at Rex these days, I think he's a beaten man, he'd never admit it but all that charisma and self belief has been beaten out of him. to be honest I don't think he believes in himself anymore, nor do the players to an extent, Rex's arrogance swag is great when you're winning, but when your losing it's not as easy to buy in.
hes a shell of his former self and it's one of the reason in don't want him anywhere near another rookie QB. |
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Post by The Tax Returns Are in Kenya on Dec 5, 2014 12:45:37 GMT -5
Yea this is what I was referring to with the riff between MM and Rex in my other post. Rex was willing to sacrifice MM to save his job when he had the chance. MM running the ball so much to stick it to Rex also makes sense as well, as opposed to Rex sticking it to Idzik, which is what I originally thought. Collision Low Crossers 2014 just might be one of the best sports books never written.... Anyways, just blow it up and be done with it Woody! The problem with this logic Is that we also lost doing it Marty's way. Many times for a long stretch this season. Really surprised, despite all the problems, that Rex actually considered firing Marty. Twice. Who would he have replaced him with? |
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Post by The Tax Returns Are in Kenya on Dec 5, 2014 12:54:44 GMT -5
This again falls on Rex for me, he's had issues with every OC he's employed, he's changed his mind to much instead of stating a clear objective of what he wants and sticking to it. Of course it's Rex, its been Rex all along. The guy can call defensive plays, but that's about it. When it comes to building a team in 2014, he is ill equipped. Even Shotty looks like he has regained some competency in St. Louis under Jeff Fisher. I wouldn't go that far.  |
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Post by The Tax Returns Are in Kenya on Dec 5, 2014 12:57:24 GMT -5
If Rex really wanted G&P, why did he hire MM in the 1st place? MM never seen a pass playcall he didn't like..... I think he was desperate and had no choice, just like when he hired Sparano. Seems ever more apparent that Rex can't attract competent coaches to his staff, for whatever reason. I think this more than anything else is a reason to blow it up and start over. Not really sure what Idzik thought letting Rex hang on for one, let alone two, years would accomplish. After the 2 year 'superbowl run' the good coaches hightailed it out of there, Callahan, Westhoff, and we're left with dregs or developing young guys. |
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Post by Touchable on Dec 5, 2014 12:58:45 GMT -5
Of course it's Rex, its been Rex all along. The guy can call defensive plays, but that's about it. When it comes to building a team in 2014, he is ill equipped. Even Shotty looks like he has regained some competency in St. Louis under Jeff Fisher. I wouldn't go that far. He has The guy actually looks like a competent OC now that he doesn't have the whole "ground and pound" and wildcat shit being hammered into his head by Rex. |
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Post by sec.101row23 on Dec 5, 2014 12:59:11 GMT -5
Of course it's Rex, its been Rex all along. The guy can call defensive plays, but that's about it. When it comes to building a team in 2014, he is ill equipped. Even Shotty looks like he has regained some competency in St. Louis under Jeff Fisher. I wouldn't go that far. Have you watched St. Louis at all this year? They have guys off the street playing QB, yet have an offense light years ahead of the Jets right now. |
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Post by The Tax Returns Are in Kenya on Dec 5, 2014 13:06:31 GMT -5
I wouldn't go that far. Have you watched St. Louis at all this year? They have guys off the street playing QB, yet have an offense light years ahead of the Jets right now. I watched Austin's first game and it was exactly like watching the Jets. They looked good for the first half and then changed nothing during the second, and lost. Their wins seem to be predicated on shit like trick special teams plays. |
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Post by The Tax Returns Are in Kenya on Dec 5, 2014 13:07:41 GMT -5
I wouldn't go that far. He has The guy actually looks like a competent OC now that he doesn't have the whole "ground and pound" and wildcat shit being hammered into his head by Rex. If Schotty started at the same time Rex came here a case could be made for that. HE was just as horrible with the previous coaches and QB's. |
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Post by sec.101row23 on Dec 5, 2014 13:12:30 GMT -5
Have you watched St. Louis at all this year? They have guys off the street playing QB, yet have an offense light years ahead of the Jets right now. I watched Austin's first game and it was exactly like watching the Jets. They looked good for the first half and then changed nothing during the second, and lost. Their wins seem to be predicated on shit like trick special teams plays. So you are basing all of it on a second year UDFAs FIRST career start? Look a little deeper. |
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Post by The Tax Returns Are in Kenya on Dec 5, 2014 13:13:33 GMT -5
I watched Austin's first game and it was exactly like watching the Jets. They looked good for the first half and then changed nothing during the second, and lost. Their wins seem to be predicated on shit like trick special teams plays. So you are basing all of it on a second year UDFAs FIRST career start? Look a little deeper. No, on Schotty's play calling looking exactly the same |
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