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Post by phillyjet on Dec 13, 2014 11:08:10 GMT -5
I'm down with Brian Hoyer and drafting Connor Cook at the top of the 2nd (or moving up to the bottom of the first to take him). Would even take the next two years of Cutler's contract and go with this plan. At the end of the day, the drop-back quarterback like Peyton or Manning or Luck endures, and guys like Kaepernick and Mariota will be flashes in the pan. Defenses will learn how to adjust to them.
That plan at least gives us some stability at the QB position. Cook can play behind Hoyer or Cutler for a couple of years and then be ready to go. Even keep Geno as the number 2 for next year, and let Cook be the 3.
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Post by phillyjet on Dec 13, 2014 11:09:49 GMT -5
btw, for those who think that Hoyer sucks, I don't agree. Heady veteran who cares, does it the right way. Literally had no one who had his back in Cleveland this year with Johnny football there. Reminds me a bit of the Brees/Rivers situation. Someone is going to get a solid veteran in the offseason, who gets it.
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Post by cgjet on Dec 13, 2014 14:44:21 GMT -5
This is the way I see it. The Jets will be out of the running for both Winston or Mariota, unless Winston drops because of his ongoing problems. Personally, the Jets face enough poblems without Winston, so I wouldn't take him if he was there. Geno will be with the Jets next year, Vick will not. Some other retread will be brought in and the Jets will again be bad. However, the Jets will draft high enough to improve their team. Personally, i'd go O-Line, and be trading down to acquire more picks. Then I would recommend going into the free agent market and opening up he wallet. The 2016 draft will be a pivitol year for acquiring a QB either through the draft or free agency. At that point things should be in place to compete for a Wild Card. The other alternative to all of this is to pull a Mike Ditka, and trade the house for Mariota, if they know he's the guy. Then hold our breath, pray, and spend like hell in free agency.
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Post by Touchable on Dec 13, 2014 16:54:40 GMT -5
We're pretty much fucked for the foreseeable future if we aren't in position for Mariota.
Bradford is the one guy that I could see still having a good career as a starter ahead of him provided that he stays healthy. And there's no guarantee that the Rams even let him go.
Guys like Brian Hoyer and Matt Moore do nothing for me.
Hoyer is a good decision maker for the most part, but his accuracy is WILDLY inconsistent. There are so many times throughout the course of a game where Hoyer actually makes the right read and decision, but sails the ball 5 feet over the intended receivers head. The guy had 3 starts this year where he completed less than 45% of his passes and had a 1:8 TD/INT ratio over his last 4 starts. It's clear that Hoyer is what he is...a quality backup. Nothing more.
And aside from that, who are we looking at through a trade?
I'm sure as shit not giving up a high pick for Cutler or RGIII. Two guys whose leadership skills have been called into question, in addition to being two of the most inconsistent QB's in the league. If Cutler can't hack it in Chicago where he's surrounded by arguably the best WR duo in the league, a pro-bowl caliber TE, a Top 5 RB, a rock solid OL and an innovative offensive mind like Trestman running things...then what the hell are we expecting him to do here? Cutler is another guy who just is who he is. He's been a starting QB in this league for the better part of a decade. He's not going to suddenly put the boneheaded mistakes behind him.
RGIII seems like the kind of diva dickhead who could tear your entire locker room apart.
Bradford and Locker are the only ones that I find intriguing at all.
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Post by Peebag on Dec 13, 2014 17:06:28 GMT -5
We're pretty much fucked for the foreseeable future if we aren't in position for Mariota. Bradford is the one guy that I could see still having a good career as a starter ahead of him provided that he stays healthy. And there's no guarantee that the Rams even let him go. Guys like Brian Hoyer and Matt Moore do nothing for me. Hoyer is a good decision maker for the most part, but his accuracy is WILDLY inconsistent. There are so many times throughout the course of a game where Hoyer actually makes the right read and decision, but sails the ball 5 feet over the intended receivers head. The guy had 3 starts this year where he completed less than 45% of his passes and had a 1:8 TD/INT ratio over his last 4 starts. It's clear that Hoyer is what he is...a quality backup. Nothing more. And aside from that, who are we looking at through a trade? I'm sure as shit not giving up a high pick for Cutler or RGIII. Two guys whose leadership skills have been called into question, in addition to being two of the most inconsistent QB's in the league. If Cutler can't hack it in Chicago where he's surrounded by arguably the best WR duo in the league, a pro-bowl caliber TE, a Top 5 RB, a rock solid OL and an innovative offensive mind like Trestman running things...then what the hell are we expecting him to do here? Cutler is another guy who just is who he is. He's been a starting QB in this league for the better part of a decade. He's not going to suddenly put the boneheaded mistakes behind him. RGIII seems like the kind of diva dickhead who could tear your entire locker room apart. Bradford and Locker are the only ones that I find intriguing at all. Bradford is a walking band aid. No thanks. |
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Post by Touchable on Dec 13, 2014 17:13:56 GMT -5
We're pretty much fucked for the foreseeable future if we aren't in position for Mariota. Bradford is the one guy that I could see still having a good career as a starter ahead of him provided that he stays healthy. And there's no guarantee that the Rams even let him go. Guys like Brian Hoyer and Matt Moore do nothing for me. Hoyer is a good decision maker for the most part, but his accuracy is WILDLY inconsistent. There are so many times throughout the course of a game where Hoyer actually makes the right read and decision, but sails the ball 5 feet over the intended receivers head. The guy had 3 starts this year where he completed less than 45% of his passes and had a 1:8 TD/INT ratio over his last 4 starts. It's clear that Hoyer is what he is...a quality backup. Nothing more. And aside from that, who are we looking at through a trade? I'm sure as shit not giving up a high pick for Cutler or RGIII. Two guys whose leadership skills have been called into question, in addition to being two of the most inconsistent QB's in the league. If Cutler can't hack it in Chicago where he's surrounded by arguably the best WR duo in the league, a pro-bowl caliber TE, a Top 5 RB, a rock solid OL and an innovative offensive mind like Trestman running things...then what the hell are we expecting him to do here? Cutler is another guy who just is who he is. He's been a starting QB in this league for the better part of a decade. He's not going to suddenly put the boneheaded mistakes behind him. RGIII seems like the kind of diva dickhead who could tear your entire locker room apart. Bradford and Locker are the only ones that I find intriguing at all. Bradford is a walking band aid. No thanks. Bradford's injury history is the only reason that we might have a shot at him in the first place. He's the only guy listed besides RGIII (rookie year) who has looked like a potential franchise QB when healthy. We all know that guys like Brian Hoyer, Matt Moore, and Colt McCoy aren't longterm options in the slightest. Let's say hypothetically that the Jets sign Bradford and draft Amari Cooper and Todd Gurley during the first two rounds of the draft. Bradford behind an improved OL throwing to Cooper, Decker, Harvin, Kerley and Amaro with a two headed monster of Ivory and Gurley in the backfield sounds pretty damn good to me. We could certainly do a lot worse. |
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Post by Peebag on Dec 13, 2014 18:20:26 GMT -5
groan...it sucks being green
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Post by Anthony Jet on Dec 13, 2014 18:30:05 GMT -5
Bradford is who I want......could turn out to be a steal if he stays healthy, which is a long shot, but there is always that chance.
I say Bradford, cooper in the 1st, cook in the 2nd
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Post by jetstream23 on Dec 13, 2014 18:41:14 GMT -5
Call me crazy, but I think Matt Schaub still has some football left in him You're crazy. |
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Post by Bavarian on Dec 14, 2014 1:40:18 GMT -5
We're pretty much fucked for the foreseeable future if we aren't in position for Mariota. Bradford is the one guy that I could see still having a good career as a starter ahead of him provided that he stays healthy. And there's no guarantee that the Rams even let him go. Guys like Brian Hoyer and Matt Moore do nothing for me. Hoyer is a good decision maker for the most part, but his accuracy is WILDLY inconsistent. There are so many times throughout the course of a game where Hoyer actually makes the right read and decision, but sails the ball 5 feet over the intended receivers head. The guy had 3 starts this year where he completed less than 45% of his passes and had a 1:8 TD/INT ratio over his last 4 starts. It's clear that Hoyer is what he is...a quality backup. Nothing more. And aside from that, who are we looking at through a trade? I'm sure as shit not giving up a high pick for Cutler or RGIII. Two guys whose leadership skills have been called into question, in addition to being two of the most inconsistent QB's in the league. If Cutler can't hack it in Chicago where he's surrounded by arguably the best WR duo in the league, a pro-bowl caliber TE, a Top 5 RB, a rock solid OL and an innovative offensive mind like Trestman running things...then what the hell are we expecting him to do here? Cutler is another guy who just is who he is. He's been a starting QB in this league for the better part of a decade. He's not going to suddenly put the boneheaded mistakes behind him. RGIII seems like the kind of diva dickhead who could tear your entire Looker room apart. Bradford and Looker are the only ones that I find intriguing at all. Bradford is a walking band aid. No thanks. Any better options? It's pretty bleak out there. Hoyer, Moore, potentially Cutler (at a cost)...we may not be in a position to just pass on him.
This is depressing. We really need to lose out.
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Post by Paradis on Dec 14, 2014 10:17:27 GMT -5
Sounds like STL is going to push to keep Bradford.
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Post by HawkeyeJet on Dec 14, 2014 10:31:24 GMT -5
Sounds like STL is going to push to keep Bradford. Started to worry about this in recent weeks. If they had a healthy Bradford, they'd be a playoff team. |
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