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Post by rph33 on Dec 17, 2014 10:33:25 GMT -5
Mcshay posted his first mock draft this morning. I don't have ESPN insider, but from what Ive seen on Twitter he has Mariota to TB, Winston to TENN and the Jets taking Cooper at 6th overall. If anybody who has ESPN Insider can post a summary of the article that'd be great.
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Post by DDNYjets on Dec 17, 2014 10:39:26 GMT -5
If he somehow managed to fall to us it would be a gift.
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Post by carlito1171 on Dec 17, 2014 10:57:22 GMT -5
If we can get Cooper at 6 then I honestly wouldn't care about the Tennessee game anymore. We all know Cooper will go 5th however. Why? Because we're the Jets....DUH  |
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Post by Frank Reynolds on Dec 17, 2014 11:03:36 GMT -5
I can fucks with that.
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Post by Peebag on Dec 17, 2014 11:20:25 GMT -5
Todd Mcsham
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Post by persiussa on Dec 17, 2014 11:35:15 GMT -5
There are good defensive prospects as well which might knock some offensive guys down to us. I feel we're still in a good spot and we might even move up a spot or 2 if other teams win.
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Post by Harrier on Dec 17, 2014 11:35:18 GMT -5
Can't say I'd turn my nose up at that...
Decker
Harvin
Cooper
Kerley
That's a top 3 WR corp in the league if you ask me.
Amaro at TE, and good back like Ivory, sure up this o-line and there's plenty of talent of an offensive HC to work with.
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Post by 10pennytocoles87 on Dec 17, 2014 11:58:26 GMT -5
Can't say I'd turn my nose up at that... Decker Harvin Cooper Kerley That's a top 3 WR corp in the league if you ask me. Amaro at TE, and good back like Ivory, sure up this o-line and there's plenty of talent of an offensive HC to work with. All that doesn't matter if we trot out Geno or another piece of shit at QB. |
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Post by jetswin on Dec 17, 2014 12:06:06 GMT -5
Can't say I'd turn my nose up at that... Decker Harvin Cooper Kerley That's a top 3 WR corp in the league if you ask me. Amaro at TE, and good back like Ivory, sure up this o-line and there's plenty of talent of an offensive HC to work with. no excuses not to score points, with decent gameplans and QB play...just slightly above average QB play should suffice |
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Post by DartTheWolf on Dec 17, 2014 12:11:58 GMT -5
In a perfect world where our offense is functionable I would agree that the retention of Harvin and inclusion of Amari Cooper would give us an upper-echelon receiver core. I would like to remind that the retention of B. Powell behind Ivory has the potential for sexiness, if Powell is given the rock ever. I would be for releasing C. Johnson end of year and promoting Daryl Richardson of Rams fame to 3rd string.
I just feel that there are many teams with much better names, and teams that while they don't have the names, they have the system that allow success. Examples of the former: Packers, Bears, Broncos, Falcons, Lions. Examples of the latter: Patriots, Colts, Steelers, Saints. Listing not exhaustive though I think many would agree that the former list has far superior receiver talent than the Jets, and the latter upon review seems to have a commonality in franchise Quarterbacking, an accidental strawman I didn't intend, I assure you, but funny upon review.
The potentiality is there. Perhaps with a new OC.
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Post by joepnyj1 on Dec 17, 2014 12:17:40 GMT -5
I am not denying Coopers talent at all in fact I would be happy if we got him, my concern is he is somewhat small and am wondering if he can take a big time hit in the NFL...that being said I think Kevin White is the guy I really like. He is big, catches everything and is a terror after the catch to put down. He is a certified Larry Fitzgerald with Boldin qualities. He would complement Deckers route running and Harvins speed perfectly.
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Post by persiussa on Dec 17, 2014 12:22:52 GMT -5
I am not denying Coopers talent at all in fact I would be happy if we got him, my concern is he is somewhat small and am wondering if he can take a big time hit in the NFL...that being said I think Kevin White is the guy I really like. He is big, catches everything and is a terror after the catch to put down. He is a certified Larry Fitzgerald with Boldin qualities. He would complement Deckers route running and Harvins speed perfectly. White scares me since he only had 1 big year. I think I like davante Parker better but I'd still prefer cooper. |
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Post by DartTheWolf on Dec 17, 2014 12:39:18 GMT -5
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Post by Bavarian on Dec 17, 2014 14:52:56 GMT -5
Can't say I'd turn my nose up at that... Decker Harvin Cooper Kerley That's a top 3 WR corp in the league if you ask me. Amaro at TE, and good back like Ivory, sure up this o-line and there's plenty of talent of an offensive HC to work with. Then you'd have an offense ready for a new QB. Too often the top QB's are thrown into a crappy team situation and doesn't have the weapons or protection (or even running game) to develop. This could be the upside to this draft position. |
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Post by Bavarian on Dec 17, 2014 14:57:19 GMT -5
I am not denying Coopers talent at all in fact I would be happy if we got him, my concern is he is somewhat small and am wondering if he can take a big time hit in the NFL...that being said I think Kevin White is the guy I really like. He is big, catches everything and is a terror after the catch to put down. He is a certified Larry Fitzgerald with Boldin qualities. He would complement Deckers route running and Harvins speed perfectly. To address this concern, CBS Sports addresses his build and have him listed at 6-1, 210 although I've seen him reported lighter elsewhere. This review is prior to this season:
COMPARES TO: Marqise Lee, Jaguars -- There are plenty of similarities to another former No. 9, Marqise Lee, however -- and not all of them complementary to either of the 2012 All-Americans.
Cooper is noticeably thicker in his chest and thighs than Lee (6-foot, 192 pounds), which may make him more likely to remain durable. He'll need to be to earn the first-round pick that Julio Jones and Roddy White received. With the only quarterback Cooper has ever known at Alabama now playing for the Cincinnati Bengals, Cooper could discover (as Lee did last year) maintaining stardom is more difficult without an experienced passer.
If you watch his game tape on Draftbreakdown.com, you'll see he has very good balance and moves smooth and effortlessly while catching...no choppiness that you see from Watkins although not as dynamic as Beckham in comparing to last year's WR's. I've always believed that most scouts (and especially Buffalo) missed on last year's best WR and the Giants got the right guy. He was my draft pick or bust last season. Easy to say now, right? But Cooper looks like a solid WR choice and we can't go wrong with what I've seen.
BTW, it's hard not to notice in Cooper's game film the presence of TJ Yeldon vs Florida - he's a shifty guy for someone his size and is great on screens. Very good hands. I wouldn't mind both of them.
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