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Post by Hotman on Dec 19, 2014 7:50:30 GMT -5
Woody doesn't have the balls to clean house. Idzik will be back to butcher another draft and hire his own coach. When we go 5-11 next year, he'll be fired and we'll be conducting another GM search with a HC in limbo. Fun times ahead. Well, his balls have never been on the line like this before. Izdik is as gone as Rex. Thank you Shefter.
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Post by Hotman on Dec 19, 2014 7:52:03 GMT -5
Not only is that extremely frustrating, it's also stupid and not funny. You're actually wrong on this one. And I'm gonna ask you a question I demand an answer immediately. You the one talking shit about me in PM to the mods asking I get ban??
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Post by persiussa on Dec 19, 2014 8:03:50 GMT -5
Not only is that extremely frustrating, it's also stupid and not funny. You're actually wrong on this one. And I'm gonna ask you a question I demand an answer immediately. You the one talking shit about me in PM to the mods asking I get ban?? First, I like the Arnold schwartzenager reference. But seriously the idea that I would involve myself so much in the community of this place that I care what people are saying is laughable. When I didn't like patsfantx on jetsinsider I eventually just left. Never mentioned a word of it to a moderator and I've never contacted a moderator for any reason on any board.
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Post by Hotman on Dec 19, 2014 8:11:49 GMT -5
You're actually wrong on this one. And I'm gonna ask you a question I demand an answer immediately. You the one talking shit about me in PM to the mods asking I get ban?? First, I like the Arnold schwartzenager reference. But seriously the idea that I would involve myself so much in the community of this place that I care what people are saying is laughable. When I didn't like patsfantx on jetsinsider I eventually just left. Never mentioned a word of it to a moderator and I've never contacted a moderator for any reason on any board. Well don't leave!
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Post by ftljetfan on Dec 19, 2014 10:27:08 GMT -5
Adam shefter said on the radio yesterday that he believes idzik and Bates Motel Rexident are out. He said this without hesitation. I am glad this came from shefter, but i will believe it when I see it.
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Post by Peebag on Dec 19, 2014 11:16:16 GMT -5
your actually wrong on this one. And I'm gonna ask you a question I demand an answer immediately. You the one talking shit about me in PM to the mods asking I get ban?? First, I like the Arnold schwartzenager reference. But seriously the idea that I would involve myself so much in the community of this place that I care what people are saying is laughable. When I didn't like patsfantx on jetsinsider I eventually just left. Never mentioned a word of it to a moderator and I've never contacted a moderator for any reason on any board. Anybody that doesn't like Tex is alright in my books!
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Post by The Tax Returns Are in Kenya on Dec 19, 2014 12:44:02 GMT -5
Adam shefter said on the radio yesterday that he believes idzik and Bates Motel Rexident are out. He said this without hesitation. I am glad this came from shefter, but i will believe it when I see it. ++11 Wasn't it a done deal that Rex was fired after Black Monday? Having said that it does look like weird things are going on. Idzik looks like he swallowed a cactus standing in the locker room at TN, like something had gone terribly wrong. Could Woody have said something bizarre like if we don't get a top 2-3 pick you're gone? Has Schefter ever been wrong?
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Post by ftljetfan on Dec 19, 2014 13:01:43 GMT -5
I am glad this came from shefter, but i will believe it when I see it. ++11 Wasn't it a done deal that Rex was fired after Black Monday? Having said that it does look like weird things are going on. Idzik looks like he swallowed a cactus standing in the locker room at TN, like something had gone terribly wrong. Could Woody have said something bizarre like if we don't get a top 2-3 pick your gone? Has Schefter ever been wrong? Good point! If I am not mistaken and could be wrong Schefter said he believes Idzik would be fired, now I would be more comfortable if he said my sources are telling me Idzik is as good as gone. I remember when it was a done deal and we hired Tom Gamble (not reported by Schefter), so who knows. Since its coming from Schefter I feel a little more optimistic about it. Schefter has a pretty good track record I cant remember too many things he was wrong about.
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Post by rexneffect on Dec 19, 2014 14:22:49 GMT -5
It's tough being the kind of GM Idzik wants to be because value decision making requires appearing wrong far more than you appear right until the final payoff where you get to look like a real genius. If Idzik came in from the beginning and told Woody that he had to clean up Tanny's mess and then go through an agonizing process of building the team into a success then Idzik sticks around for that reason. You have a team with pieces and tremendous opportunity to bring in serious talent next year so next year would be Idzik's opportunity to get the payoff he took abuse for this year and last. The problem is in looking at his draft selections and decisions to keep the old management structure intact (particularly the scouting dept.) then it doesn't seem likely Idzik is going to maximize his opportunities. Certainly the ability to capitalize on draft picks will also come down to whoever the coach is next year and his coaching staff. Idzik probably survives scrutiny on his two drafts by blaming Rex and his coaching staff for ruining all those draft picks that could have been. If Rex is out the door then Woody is likely easily convinced that it is true (and to an extent it is true) and Idzik sticks around.
On the other hand, Woody will be perfectly poised to clean house in coaching and management and bring in a fresh team to capitalize on the opportunities Idzik built out of two bad seasons and maybe Woody dumps everybody and starts over. I think I would rather see this happen than Idzik stay but I don't know if Woody is prepared to dump everybody.
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Post by carlito1171 on Dec 19, 2014 15:24:53 GMT -5
Woody cares what people think about the Jets too much.
Woody will cave into the pressure from fans/media and Florham Park will be blown up on Black Monday.
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Post by jetfrantik on Dec 19, 2014 16:04:15 GMT -5
He'll be back boys. You won't be able to hire anyone with any merit to come here if you're going to roast them after 2 years. He'll be on short leash next year tho... what's a gm short leash? woody tells him who to draft? A gm short leash is just like the one that Fly Fatass Fly uses, but just a little shorter. There's talks right now going on of him magicly appearing in the end zone, when the Jets score touchdowns! Not the Super GM of course but Fly Fatass Fly himself.
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Post by The Tax Returns Are in Kenya on Dec 19, 2014 16:57:50 GMT -5
what's a gm short leash? woody tells him who to draft? A gm short leash is just like the one that Fly Fatass Fly uses, but just a little shorter. There's talks right now going on of him magicly appearing in the end zone, when the Jets score touchdowns! Not the Super GM of course but Fly Fatass Fly himself. I literally have no idea what you're talking about but is sure sounds funny
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Post by kreissage on Dec 19, 2014 17:21:56 GMT -5
I'd say 50/50 at this point, I really think the next two games will push it one way or the other. We need to get blown out against both New England and Miami. And I think we can do it.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2014 17:25:54 GMT -5
what's a gm short leash? woody tells him who to draft? A gm short leash is just like the one that Fly Fatass Fly uses, but just a little shorter. There's talks right now going on of him magicly appearing in the end zone, when the Jets score touchdowns! Not the Super GM of course but Fly Fatass Fly himself. Are you the guy in "From Here to Eternity"?
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