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Post by jetswin on Dec 23, 2014 8:45:40 GMT -5
If Geno had improved only slightly Rex would not be under the gun right now. This team's failures are a direct result of awful QB play, that unfortunately has gone on for 4 years running. Yes Gedope change would be good... at your spot. Chicken or the egg. Maybe with better scouting and coaching our QB situation would be better. pretty sure you don't need and NFL QB whisperer to know not to take a sack when in range for the winning FG, HS QB's know that
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Post by Bavarian on Dec 23, 2014 8:47:05 GMT -5
Change he says, ya, him hitting the road or being 3rd string and the team not having to put up with him, that's the change. I don't see any new HC coming in here and keeping Geno. Every candidate knows the history, not only with Geno, but the whole team and organization, they will all want to rid themselves of anything that is negative. If a HC comes in here and keeps any of the huge elephants in the room it tells me they have no confidence in themselves and are simply keeping them around so they can drop blame when the hammer falls. Exactly. Be careful of what you ask for, pal.
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Post by DDNYjets on Dec 23, 2014 9:11:19 GMT -5
Chicken or the egg. Maybe with better scouting and coaching our QB situation would be better. pretty sure you don't need and NFL QB whisperer to know not to take a sack when in range for the winning FG, HS QB's know that Geno sucks balls but if you are referring to Sunday's game I don't think he could have thrown the ball away on either occasion. He's in the pocket so intentional grounding comes into play and that is that same as a sack. Would have to see what routes the receivers were running to see if there was a hot route to be 100% sure but I doubt there was.
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Post by Sonny Werblin on Dec 23, 2014 9:22:46 GMT -5
pretty sure you don't need and NFL QB whisperer to know not to take a sack when in range for the winning FG, HS QB's know that Geno sucks balls but if you are referring to Sunday's game I don't think he could have thrown the ball away on either occasion. He's in the pocket so intentional grounding comes into play and that is that same as a sack. Would have to see what routes the receivers were running to see if there was a hot route to be 100% sure but I doubt there was. Perhaps the fault lies in his failure to recognize that a blitz was coming? Later in the afternoon, Russell Wilson read a blitz, knew it meant Larry Foote would be covering his TE and threw a pass that went about 15 yds downfield that turned into a long TD. BTW, who didn't know that the Pats were Blitzing on 3d down with the Jets in FG range? (Other than Geno)
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Post by CTJetsFanII on Dec 23, 2014 10:02:57 GMT -5
Geno sucks balls but if you are referring to Sunday's game I don't think he could have thrown the ball away on either occasion. He's in the pocket so intentional grounding comes into play and that is that same as a sack. Would have to see what routes the receivers were running to see if there was a hot route to be 100% sure but I doubt there was. Perhaps the fault lies in his failure to recognize that a blitz was coming? Later in the afternoon, Russell Wilson read a blitz, knew it meant Larry Foote would be covering his TE and threw a pass that went about 15 yds downfield that turned into a long TD. BTW, who didn't know that the Pats** were Blitzing on 3d down with the Jets in FG range? (Other than Geno) More importantly, how about asking why they called a pass play in that scenario and put Geno in that position when they are in FG range when the following negative things could happen: a) an interception, b) an incomplete pass stopping the clock and giving Pats* time after our FG attempt or c) a sack pushing us out of FG range (which did happen). Why didn't they just run the ball to try to get closer and run off more clock? To me, that's a synopsis of Rex's tenure here.
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Post by Sonny Werblin on Dec 23, 2014 10:12:12 GMT -5
Perhaps the fault lies in his failure to recognize that a blitz was coming? Later in the afternoon, Russell Wilson read a blitz, knew it meant Larry Foote would be covering his TE and threw a pass that went about 15 yds downfield that turned into a long TD. BTW, who didn't know that the Pats*** were Blitzing on 3d down with the Jets in FG range? (Other than Geno) More importantly, how about asking why they called a pass play in that scenario and put Geno in that position when they are in FG range when the following negative things could happen: a) an interception, b) an incomplete pass stopping the clock and giving Pats** time after our FG attempt or c) a sack pushing us out of FG range (which did happen). Why didn't they just run the ball to try to get closer and run off more clock? To me, that's a synopsis of Rex's tenure here. Completely agree. If I remember right it was 3d and less than 5 yards, I think?
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Post by nyahaybus on Dec 23, 2014 10:14:40 GMT -5
'Nope's in for a rude awakening if he thinks that a new regime that owes him nothing/thinks of him as the old regime's hot garbage is going to be a good change for him and his NFL future.
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Post by Bavarian on Dec 23, 2014 10:16:05 GMT -5
If Geno had improved only slightly Rex would not be under the gun right now. This team's failures are a direct result of awful QB play, that unfortunately has gone on for 4 years running. Yes Gedope change would be good... at your spot. Chicken or the egg. Maybe with better scouting and coaching our QB situation would be better. Or it's just a rotten egg. Maybe we'll find out if he's retained.
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Post by CTJetsFanII on Dec 23, 2014 10:18:14 GMT -5
More importantly, how about asking why they called a pass play in that scenario and put Geno in that position when they are in FG range when the following negative things could happen: a) an interception, b) an incomplete pass stopping the clock and giving Pats*** time after our FG attempt or c) a sack pushing us out of FG range (which did happen). Why didn't they just run the ball to try to get closer and run off more clock? To me, that's a synopsis of Rex's tenure here. Completely agree. If I remember right it was 3d and less than 5 yards, I think? I don't recall but to me it's irrelevant given the time on the clock and where they were on the field.
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Post by jetswin on Dec 23, 2014 10:18:42 GMT -5
pretty sure you don't need and NFL QB whisperer to know not to take a sack when in range for the winning FG, HS QB's know that Geno sucks balls but if you are referring to Sunday's game I don't think he could have thrown the ball away on either occasion. He's in the pocket so intentional grounding comes into play and that is that same as a sack. Would have to see what routes the receivers were running to see if there was a hot route to be 100% sure but I doubt there was. he just should have launched it into the seats behind the end zone, I've seen that done in the NFL as long as I've been watching
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Post by Touchable on Dec 23, 2014 10:25:53 GMT -5
'Nope's in for a rude awakening if he thinks that a new regime that owes him nothing/thinks of him as the old regime's hot garbage is going to be a good change for him and his NFL future. What QB would want to play under Rex? After his first start for the Eagles on monday night against the Panthers, even Sanchez basically gave a big "fuck you" to Rex and Co. in the postgame interview. It doesn't matter if we drafted the next once in a generation, Andrew Luck-esque prospect...Rex would still find a way to neuter the shit out of him after his first multi-turnover game. I think everyone is aware that Geno most likely isn't the longterm solution, but the only way that he isn't on the roster next year is if the Jets draft Mariota/Winston in addition to signing a veteran QB. And even then Geno could stick as the 3rd QB on the roster.
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Post by Peebag on Dec 23, 2014 10:34:57 GMT -5
Adios G-nope - don't let the door hit ya where the good lord split ya!
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Post by nyahaybus on Dec 23, 2014 10:36:11 GMT -5
Sanchez played for offensive guru Chip Kelly and he still reverted to his shitty self. If anything, that doesn't indict Rex it shows that Sanchez never was the right guy. So what's your point?
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Post by sec.101row23 on Dec 23, 2014 10:36:19 GMT -5
Perhaps the fault lies in his failure to recognize that a blitz was coming? Later in the afternoon, Russell Wilson read a blitz, knew it meant Larry Foote would be covering his TE and threw a pass that went about 15 yds downfield that turned into a long TD. BTW, who didn't know that the Pats*** were Blitzing on 3d down with the Jets in FG range? (Other than Geno) More importantly, how about asking why they called a pass play in that scenario and put Geno in that position when they are in FG range when the following negative things could happen: a) an interception, b) an incomplete pass stopping the clock and giving Pats** time after our FG attempt or c) a sack pushing us out of FG range (which did happen). Why didn't they just run the ball to try to get closer and run off more clock? To me, that's a synopsis of Rex's tenure here. The third down play wasn't the issue, the bigger issue is WHY are you playing for only a FG in that situation? That's the underlying issue with Rex, he is gutless on offense. Even in a game where he is 3-11 in a lost season, he can't bring himself to actually try to win the game.
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Post by Hotman on Dec 23, 2014 10:37:12 GMT -5
I can't see anybody of merit wanting to come here if the requirement is that Geno remains the starter. I could see the response to that in an interview as, "How did being handcuffed with some guy from the last regime work for you?" Quite honestly, if Idzik is gone then the only way to make coming to the Jets a very compelling thing is to give the new GM a completely clean slate.....Hire your own HC, get your own QB, start from the bottom up with a roster that is probably about 60% of NFL quality. Exactly what must happen or we're not going to start making any real progress for the next 5 years when Woody will have to do this again.
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