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Post by carlito1171 on Dec 30, 2014 10:35:39 GMT -5
I don't get the Seattle love, especially on the offensive side of the ball. Their success is a result of having a load of talent on the defensive side of the ball imho, offensively they scare no one. That being said looks like the Jets will most likely be breaking in another rookie head coach, swell. me neither, and people are ready to hire half of their organization here....
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Post by Touchable on Dec 30, 2014 10:40:34 GMT -5
Shouldn't we be seeing lists of potential GM's before all these coaches? I don't want the egg before the chicken again as a GM should be able to have say for his coach. Woody is getting it ass-backwards again. A lot of these guys like Quinn, Bowles, Gase, etc aren't going to be able to interview beyond this weekend until their current teams get eliminated from the playoffs. We may not have another shot to speak to Quinn until February. Might as well bring him in now and get an idea of what his plan is.
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Post by Touchable on Dec 30, 2014 10:47:00 GMT -5
I don't get the Seattle love, especially on the offensive side of the ball. Their success is a result of having a load of talent on the defensive side of the ball imho, offensively they scare no one. That being said looks like the Jets will most likely be breaking in another rookie head coach, swell. Quinn is one of the most promising HC candidates out there. I'd personally want nothing to do with a guy like Darrell Bevell, but Quinn is a whole different story. Everyone believes that Quinn is the true defensive guru to come out of Seattle, not Gus Bradley. And Kirchner has been Snyder's right hand man in Seattle. Why the hell we didn't originally go after him instead of Idzik is beyond me.
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Post by HawkeyeJet on Dec 30, 2014 10:52:11 GMT -5
Names coming fast and furious for both positions this morning. Don't want to copy all the tweets but the Jets have officially requested an interview for McCagnan(per Costello) Eagles Rick Mueller(per Manish) and will make a significant push for DeCosta(per Rapoport)
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Post by Touchable on Dec 30, 2014 10:53:28 GMT -5
DeCosta would be a fucking dream come true if we could somehow manage to pry him away from Baltimore.
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Post by jetswin on Dec 30, 2014 10:55:35 GMT -5
I don't get the Seattle love, especially on the offensive side of the ball. Their success is a result of having a load of talent on the defensive side of the ball imho, offensively they scare no one. That being said looks like the Jets will most likely be breaking in another rookie head coach, swell. Quinn is one of the most promising HC candidates out there. I'd personally want nothing to do with a guy like Darrell Bevell, but Quinn is a whole different story. Everyone believes that Quinn is the true defensive guru to come out of Seattle, not Gus Bradley. And Kirchner has been Snyder's right hand man in Seattle. Why the hell we didn't originally go after him instead of Idzik is beyond me. What will he bring to the offensive side of the ball? How will he help Geno? We've had a top 6 or 7 defense for the past 6 years, zero championships. I'm not really looking to debate Rex's D, or the merits of a top D coordinator, I just don't want us falling for the flavor of the month again. Quinn, Bowles, all the talking heads are extolling their virtues, we've been down that road way too many times as fans, it really began with booting Michaels for Walton imho and has been the one true constant of the franchise, grab the hot guy. I really don't have an alternative in mind, but none of these guys excite me, we had a great defensive coach.
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Post by 2foolish on Dec 30, 2014 10:56:05 GMT -5
i'm sorry...going down the new guy rte again...isn't Woody worth like billions...back the truck up and get Holmgren or Saban....
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Post by prime21 on Dec 30, 2014 10:57:37 GMT -5
I would love DeCosta but he is loyal to that organization. Wonder if any college coaches are on the agenda.
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Post by prime21 on Dec 30, 2014 10:59:02 GMT -5
I would love DeCosta but he is loyal to that organization. Wonder if any college coaches are on the agenda. I was thinking the same. There is no cap on coaches and GM's. If you have to spend extra to put your organization under the right person then do it.
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Post by Touchable on Dec 30, 2014 10:59:02 GMT -5
Quinn is one of the most promising HC candidates out there. I'd personally want nothing to do with a guy like Darrell Bevell, but Quinn is a whole different story. Everyone believes that Quinn is the true defensive guru to come out of Seattle, not Gus Bradley. And Kirchner has been Snyder's right hand man in Seattle. Why the hell we didn't originally go after him instead of Idzik is beyond me. What will he bring to the offensive side of the ball? How will he help Geno? We've had a top 6 or 7 defense for the past 6 years, zero championships. I'm not really looking to debate Rex's D, or the merits of a top D coordinator, I just don't want us falling for the flavor of the month again. Quinn, Bowles, all the talking heads are extolling their virtues, we've been down that road way too many times as fans, it really began with booting Michaels for Walton imho and has been the one true constant of the franchise, grab the hot guy. I really don't have an alternative in mind, but none of these guys excite me, we had a great defensive coach. He's a highly respected, up and coming coach. He can attract a quality OC. I'm not against hiring another defensive coach and I don't think anyone should be. If we hire a guy like Quinn or Bowles it doesn't automatically mean that we're getting another Rex who doesn't give two shits about the offense.
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Post by Bavarian on Dec 30, 2014 11:05:06 GMT -5
Quinn is one of the most promising HC candidates out there. I'd personally want nothing to do with a guy like Darrell Bevell, but Quinn is a whole different story. Everyone believes that Quinn is the true defensive guru to come out of Seattle, not Gus Bradley. And Kirchner has been Snyder's right hand man in Seattle. Why the hell we didn't originally go after him instead of Idzik is beyond me. What will he bring to the offensive side of the ball? How will he help Geno? We've had a top 6 or 7 defense for the past 6 years, zero championships. I'm not really looking to debate Rex's D, or the merits of a top D coordinator, I just don't want us falling for the flavor of the month again. Quinn, Bowles, all the talking heads are extolling their virtues, we've been down that road way too many times as fans, it really began with booting Michaels for Walton imho and has been the one true constant of the franchise, grab the hot guy. I really don't have an alternative in mind, but none of these guys excite me, we had a great defensive coach. I hear you and my personal favorite would be Gase but I think the reason most here are on board with Quinn/Bowles is the thinking that things couldn't possibly be worse on offense when Rex leaves. I think many believe he constricted the offense and pitted the defense vs the offense and moreover, favored the defense in any situation. I don't think this is so much about hiring an offensive vs defensive guy but having true leadership, accountability, running a tight ship and getting everyone on the same page. Rex could not succeed in that. In fact, he was passed over by the Ravens in favor of the special teams coach when making a change there.
All that said, yes, the team is still in need of someone who can better develop our QB's and put together a competent, modern offense based on balance. I don't believe this point will be lost on those now in charge.
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Post by jetswin on Dec 30, 2014 11:12:51 GMT -5
What will he bring to the offensive side of the ball? How will he help Geno? We've had a top 6 or 7 defense for the past 6 years, zero championships. I'm not really looking to debate Rex's D, or the merits of a top D coordinator, I just don't want us falling for the flavor of the month again. Quinn, Bowles, all the talking heads are extolling their virtues, we've been down that road way too many times as fans, it really began with booting Michaels for Walton imho and has been the one true constant of the franchise, grab the hot guy. I really don't have an alternative in mind, but none of these guys excite me, we had a great defensive coach. ...I think the reason most here are on board with Quinn/Bowles is the thinking that things couldn't possibly be worse on offense when Rex leaves. I think many believe he constricted the offense and pitted the defense vs the offense and moreover, favored the defense in any situation. I don't think this is so much about hiring an offensive vs defensive guy but having true leadership, accountability, running a tight ship and getting everyone on the same page. Rex could not succeed in that... well done here, you have summed up nicely what was Rex's biggest shortcoming imho. I hated when in post game pressers if seemed he was only taking responsibility and showing anger for what happened on defense in the game being discussed, he never really took ownership of the offense. Of course this past weekend for the first time he said he called certain plays, that may have always gone on and Rex just kept quiet about it, or not, I guess we'll never know for sure.
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Post by jetssjumets on Dec 30, 2014 11:22:07 GMT -5
Just when it seemed like Cable was getting the Raiders going, of course the Raiders fired him. On an unrelated note I just realized the last o-minded coaches we had were Kotite & Coslet (shudder). So who the fuck knows. Exactly. Thus, the reason I keep saying it was so damn risky, an not necessary imo, to fire Rex. Woody opened the door to the unknown -- something this franchise does not need as it already has other unknowns especially at another critical position in the organization: QB. Just like the stock market doesn't like "the unknown," why should we as a fanbase like the unknown? Stability is the key. Now we just added more volatility to a franchise that has seen its share of ups and downs the past 40+ years. At least Woody should have allowed the new GM, a football guy/gal, to make the decision on Rex.
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Post by Touchable on Dec 30, 2014 11:27:49 GMT -5
Just when it seemed like Cable was getting the Raiders going, of course the Raiders fired him. On an unrelated note I just realized the last o-minded coaches we had were Kotite & Coslet (shudder). So who the fuck knows. Exactly. Thus, the reason I keep saying it was so damn risky, an not necessary imo, to fire Rex. Woody opened the door to the unknown -- something this franchise does not need as it already has other unknowns especially at another critical position in the organization: QB. Just like the stock market doesn't like "the unknown," why should we as a fanbase like the unknown? Stability is the key. Now we just added more volatility to a franchise that has seen its share of ups and downs the past 40+ years. At least Woody should have allowed the new GM, a football guy/gal, to make the decision on Rex. Really? The Jets might not have a new GM in place for almost a month. You Rex supporters honestly think it would've been a better idea to keep him flailing in the wind when there's a less than 10% chance that the new GM would keep him anyway?
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Post by Bavarian on Dec 30, 2014 11:30:06 GMT -5
In an unrelated story (but part of Jets connection), Mangini is going to interview for the Raiders HC job.
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