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Post by jetstream23 on Jan 2, 2015 15:42:47 GMT -5
With a roster full of suckitude, no QB, and injuries to both starting CBs that were needed to make Rex's defense really work I just can't see any other coach taking this past year's team to more than 5 or 6 wins. Who in their right mind thinks that the 2014 Jets dramatically underachieved?? I think they pretty much met expectations, at least within a game or two. I haven't heard a single football expert say, "Wow, how did that team not win a lot more games and make a playoff push?" Probably fair to assess the past 6 years under Rex as follows... 2009 - Major Overachievement2010 - Overachievement2011 - Underachievement2012 - Underachievement2013 - Overachievement2014 - Met expectationsI think we had a roster with 6-win talent both last year and this year. Last year we won 8 games with a 6-win roster, this year we won 4 games with a 6-win roster. You could argue that last year a couple of bounces of the ball had the Jets at 6 or 7 wins instead of 8. You could also argue this year that if Folk hits a couple of FGs or the Jets finish the OT game in Minnesota that they win 6 or 7 this year. I only wish he didn't repeat his same bonehead mistakes all the time... After 6 years you really kinda are like OKAY DUDE WTF!!! I think that's why he's ultimately gone, and what Woody was trying to talk about... who knows. I agree. You can't keep making the same mistakes over and over. That was his demise. Rex has about 70% of what it takes to be a great, Super Bowl caliber HC in my opinion. I do think that the organization that finds a way to mitigate or minimize that missing 30% will be a big time winner. I'm not sure the Jets ever found the kind of capable Offensive Coordinator - Quarterback combination that works! That's partially Rex's fault, but significantly on the GM. A strong, rules-oriented tactician as an Assistant HC would have helped as well.
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Post by Peebag on Jan 2, 2015 15:43:44 GMT -5
With a roster full of suckitude, no QB, and injuries to both starting CBs that were needed to make Rex's defense really work I just can't see any other coach taking this past year's team to more than 5 or 6 wins. Who in their right mind thinks that the 2014 Jets dramatically underachieved?? I think they pretty much met expectations, at least within a game or two. I haven't heard a single football expert say, "Wow, how did that team not win a lot more games and make a playoff push?" Probably fair to assess the past 6 years under Rex as follows... 2009 - Major Overachievement2010 - Overachievement2011 - Underachievement2012 - Underachievement2013 - Overachievement2014 - Met expectationsI think we had a roster with 6-win talent both last year and this year. Last year we won 8 games with a 6-win roster, this year we won 4 games with a 6-win roster. You could argue that last year a couple of bounces of the ball had the Jets at 6 or 7 wins instead of 8. You could also argue this year that if Folk hits a couple of FGs or the Jets finish the OT game in Minnesota that they win 6 or 7 this year. I only wish he didn't repeat his same bonehead mistakes all the time... After 6 years you really kinda are like OKAY DUDE WTF!!! I think that's why he's ultimately gone, and what Woody was trying to talk about... who knows. Just wait until you're on your fifth decade of watching Jets football.....serious depression will begin.
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Post by Sonny Werblin on Jan 2, 2015 15:44:48 GMT -5
With a roster full of suckitude, no QB, and injuries to both starting CBs that were needed to make Rex's defense really work I just can't see any other coach taking this past year's team to more than 5 or 6 wins. Who in their right mind thinks that the 2014 Jets dramatically underachieved?? I think they pretty much met expectations, at least within a game or two. I haven't heard a single football expert say, "Wow, how did that team not win a lot more games and make a playoff push?" Probably fair to assess the past 6 years under Rex as follows... 2009 - Major Overachievement2010 - Overachievement2011 - Underachievement2012 - Underachievement2013 - Overachievement2014 - Met expectationsI think we had a roster with 6-win talent both last year and this year. Last year we won 8 games with a 6-win roster, this year we won 4 games with a 6-win roster. You could argue that last year a couple of bounces of the ball had the Jets at 6 or 7 wins instead of 8. You could also argue this year that if Folk hits a couple of FGs or the Jets finish the OT game in Minnesota that they win 6 or 7 this year. They underachieved on the O side of the ball because Rex always had to have first round D players in the draft (2 in 2013!!!) and Rex could not hire a competent staff to coach the O side of the ball.
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Post by carlito1171 on Jan 2, 2015 15:47:41 GMT -5
With a roster full of suckitude, no QB, and injuries to both starting CBs that were needed to make Rex's defense really work I just can't see any other coach taking this past year's team to more than 5 or 6 wins. Who in their right mind thinks that the 2014 Jets dramatically underachieved?? I think they pretty much met expectations, at least within a game or two. I haven't heard a single football expert say, "Wow, how did that team not win a lot more games and make a playoff push?" Probably fair to assess the past 6 years under Rex as follows... 2009 - Major Overachievement2010 - Overachievement2011 - Underachievement2012 - Underachievement2013 - Overachievement2014 - Met expectationsI think we had a roster with 6-win talent both last year and this year. Last year we won 8 games with a 6-win roster, this year we won 4 games with a 6-win roster. You could argue that last year a couple of bounces of the ball had the Jets at 6 or 7 wins instead of 8. You could also argue this year that if Folk hits a couple of FGs or the Jets finish the OT game in Minnesota that they win 6 or 7 this year. I only wish he didn't repeat his same bonehead mistakes all the time... After 6 years you really kinda are like OKAY DUDE WTF!!! I think that's why he's ultimately gone, and what Woody was trying to talk about... who knows. No you hit the nail on the head HH. I too wish Rex would have woken up before it was too late, and really looked himself in the mirror, after 6 years of the same shit you eventually have to realize that things won't change......We need to realize that yes, Rex was given a bad deal this season, but he made his own bed as well.....and that's why both he and Idzik are gone....
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Post by carlito1171 on Jan 2, 2015 15:56:19 GMT -5
I only wish he didn't repeat his same bonehead mistakes all the time... After 6 years you really kinda are like OKAY DUDE WTF!!! I think that's why he's ultimately gone, and what Woody was trying to talk about... who knows. I agree. You can't keep making the same mistakes over and over. That was his demise. Rex has about 70% of what it takes to be a great, Super Bowl caliber HC in my opinion. I do think that the organization that finds a way to mitigate or minimize that missing 30% will be a big time winner. I'm not sure the Jets ever found the kind of capable Offensive Coordinator - Quarterback combination that works! That's partially Rex's fault, but significantly on the GM. A strong, rules-oriented tactician as an Assistant HC would have helped as well. Yea I think it would have eventually worked with a strong OC, in a assistant HC type of role, who was also strong tactician. Also a savvy GM that was committed to building the offensive side of the ball to complement Rex's D. There's only 3 problems with this: 1) Rex takes a lot of the blame in the choices of at least 2 of the 3 OCs in his tenure here. An HC hires his own staff. 2) Rex takes some blame for the defensive heavy drafts, under both GMs. It's a joke to think that a GM just hands the HC some players and then tells him to "make it work" HC has plenty of say during the drafting process. 3) It's pointless to bring in a great OC if Rex is going to neuter the offense after our young QB's first mistake, and practically mandate that the Wildcat package be used because "it gives the opponents something else to prepare for".
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Post by thebigragu on Jan 2, 2015 15:58:03 GMT -5
iTS ABOUT TO BE THE ERA OFF BARE ASSES AND TITTIES CAUSE WERE MOVING TONIGHT HOPEFULLY
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Post by Hotman on Jan 2, 2015 16:04:24 GMT -5
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Post by Hotman on Jan 2, 2015 16:08:37 GMT -5
iTS ABOUT TO BE THE ERA OFF BARE ASSES AND TITTIES CAUSE WERE MOVING TONIGHT HOPEFULLY Is the web address gonna change?
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Post by jetstream23 on Jan 2, 2015 16:12:26 GMT -5
I agree. You can't keep making the same mistakes over and over. That was his demise. Rex has about 70% of what it takes to be a great, Super Bowl caliber HC in my opinion. I do think that the organization that finds a way to mitigate or minimize that missing 30% will be a big time winner. I'm not sure the Jets ever found the kind of capable Offensive Coordinator - Quarterback combination that works! That's partially Rex's fault, but significantly on the GM. A strong, rules-oriented tactician as an Assistant HC would have helped as well. Yea I think it would have eventually worked with a strong OC, in a assistant HC type of role, who was also strong tactician. Also a savvy GM that was committed to building the offensive side of the ball to complement Rex's D. There's only 3 problems with this: 1) Rex takes a lot of the blame in the choices of at least 2 of the 3 OCs in his tenure here. An HC hires his own staff. 2) Rex takes some blame for the defensive heavy drafts, under both GMs. It's a joke to think that a GM just hands the GM some players and then tells him to "make it work" HC has plenty of say during the drafting process. 3) It's pointless to bring in a great OC if Rex is going to neuter the offense after our young QB's first mistake, and practically mandate that the Wildcat package be used because "it gives the opponents something else to prepare for". All good points dude. Rex's faults were never mitigated by either putting a strong OC in place or by having a strong personnel-oriented GM here. When you follow up an overspending salary cap guy (Tanny) with an underspending salary cap guy (Idzik) and never have a true football GM, that's a recipe for disaster with a guy like Rex whose personality can tip the balance when deciding on drafting or signing a particular player. If there was a GM with a strong football IQ who could command a room then I think he would have better draft investments on offense. However, in defense of the drafts, it's important to note that the Jets did use FA quite a bit on offense. Bringing in guys like Braylon, Holmes, LT, etc. after having built a "foundation" in recent years with high draft picks like Sanchez, Keller, Mangold, and Brick wasn't necessarily showing "neglect" of the offense from a personnel standpoint.
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Post by thebigragu on Jan 2, 2015 16:14:44 GMT -5
iTS ABOUT TO BE THE ERA OFF BARE ASSES AND TITTIES CAUSE WERE MOVING TONIGHT HOPEFULLY Is the web address gonna change? I think so but we will be directed there. I bought the newyorkjetshampur.com that way after 6 months we totally own every piece of our site and can export anything. It was the only option we had or else start from scratch, and with 500 members and after what we just went through I researched every possible way, and this was the best one. The newyorkjetshampur is ours and i imagine it might stay that way on the move. Even if it does switch to which I dont think it will we needed our domain anyhow.
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Post by thebigragu on Jan 2, 2015 16:15:10 GMT -5
sorry to derail your thread guys Ill stfu
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Post by Hotman on Jan 2, 2015 16:18:31 GMT -5
sorry to derail your thread guys Ill stfu I'd say it's relevant we could use some good news
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Post by shootmenow on Jan 2, 2015 16:20:47 GMT -5
Is the web address gonna change? I think so but we will be directed there. I bought the newyorkjetshampur.com that way after 6 months we totally own every piece of our site and can export anything. It was the only option we had or else start from scratch, and with 500 members and after what we just went through I researched every possible way, and this was the best one. The newyorkjetshampur is ours and i imagine it might stay that way on the move. Even if it does switch to which I dont think it will we needed our domain anyhow.
You've really put a ton of work into this Ragu and I for one really appreciate it, especially being saved from scout-death.
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Post by southparkcpa on Jan 2, 2015 16:26:01 GMT -5
of like when the Detroit Lions STARTED sucking so bad they went winless and 2-14 was an average year for them. That's what this steaming bag of shit looks like to me. Especially if we hire these dudes backwards. And I'm not even one of those SOFS... Imagine what THEY think! Where Ray Ray?
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Post by shootmenow on Jan 2, 2015 16:27:21 GMT -5
of like when the Detroit Lions STARTED sucking so bad they went winless and 2-14 was an average year for them. That's what this steaming bag of shit looks like to me. Especially if we hire these dudes backwards. And I'm not even one of those SOFS... Imagine what THEY think! " I put this in the other thread but here it is again, maybe it's more sideways than backwards but still not correct IMHO: Woody Johnson to Hire Coach SNY.TV's TheJetsBlog.com provides comments from Johnson: "I think I’m going to ultimately be the one who hires the coach, but I will certainly listen to the new general manager,” Johnson said. “If that comes first, I’ll definitely do that.” Johnson is being advised by Charley Casserly and Ron Wolf in the head coach and general manager search.
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