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Post by southparkcpa on Jan 4, 2015 9:15:36 GMT -5
Looking at the Ravens, slight above average talent developed by a solid management team of GM, asst GM and coach.
They passed over their DC in 2008 after a SB (REX) to bring in a DB special teams coach (Harbaugh) . Think about that. a special teams coach got the HC job over REX. Flacco IMO would never have become the QB he is today under REX and Ravens management knew it. Early on Flacco looked scared and played defensively. YET..they brought in the right talent around him.
Point being ... the right GM and coaching with player development is so much more important than players. Arguably the Ravens talent is only slightly above average but are developed well above average. Who thought they would be here after Ray Rice???
The ability to hang on to Cotch and CRO I cite as examples makes good teams. Not easy, takes smoothing over feelings of players etc.
The JETS need to bring in real football men with long term vision.
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Post by Harrier on Jan 4, 2015 9:54:19 GMT -5
Good post.
Funny how that Ravens Defense has never dropped off after Rex moved on. They also don't hide behind roster turnover as an excuse not to be competing for the playoffs year in year out, they've lost.......
Reed Lewis Boldin Rice
They've drafted solid players like......
Upshaw Jernigan CJ Mosely Matt Elam
The have a HEAD COACH, a QB, and a GM that consistently had them competitive year in year out, there's a reason they let guy like Rex Ryan go and still have a top notch Defense.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2015 10:37:58 GMT -5
Flacco has long out-performed his lifetime expectations when it comes to the playoffs. When the Ravens lose in Foxboro we can move back to the tired "it's all Brady" argument, or at least admit Revis made a difference.
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Post by ryu79 on Jan 4, 2015 10:49:32 GMT -5
Looking at the Ravens, slight above average talent developed by a solid management team of GM, asst GM and coach. They passed over their DC in 2008 after a SB (REX) to bring in a DB special teams coach (Harbaugh) . Think about that. a special teams coach got the HC job over REX. Flacco IMO would never have become the QB he is today under REX and Ravens management knew it. Early on Flacco looked scared and played defensively. YET..they brought in the right talent around him. Point being ... the right GM and coaching with player development is so much more important than players. Arguably the Ravens talent is only slightly above average but are developed well above average. Who thought they would be here after Ray Rice??? The ability to hang on to Cotch and CRO I cite as examples makes good teams. Not easy, takes smoothing over feelings of players etc. The JETS need to bring in real football men with long term vision. What a great post! Fully agree - was listening to Mike Westhoff on the radio the day Rex was fired. Mike said he had wanted Rex's job and applied - I think he'd of been a great coach if given the chance.
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Post by Frank Reynolds on Jan 4, 2015 10:53:46 GMT -5
They've got a top notch gm and front office to go along with a great coach. That makes a huge difference when it comes to sustainability and long term success.
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Post by The Tax Returns Are in Kenya on Jan 4, 2015 11:13:53 GMT -5
Rex is gone. Get over it.
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Post by southparkcpa on Jan 4, 2015 11:17:15 GMT -5
Rex is gone. Get over it. NOT a REX thread..its a total management thread. We need a solid GM, solid coach etc. Yet management of the JETS brings in Tebow and runs the wildcat.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2015 11:40:47 GMT -5
Rex is gone. Get over it. Completely missed the point of this thread.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2015 11:44:12 GMT -5
At the same time, they've handed Flacco a contract that apparently he only cares to remember when it's playoff time. That's not an entirely bad thing, but let's see what he does next week.
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Post by The Tax Returns Are in Kenya on Jan 4, 2015 11:48:19 GMT -5
Rex is gone. Get over it. Completely missed the point of this thread. But not the motive
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2015 12:06:24 GMT -5
Torrey Smith racked up 229 yards through PIs. Only one other receiver had more than 100. But the refs are crooked toward the Pats*. Flacbert tossing up moon shots and hoping for PIs is basically their entire offense.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2015 12:18:36 GMT -5
The narrative all this week will be about the "mystique and aura" of the Ravens in Foxboro. No attention will be paid to the fact that the Ravens are worse and the Pats* are better than all of those former playoff battles. They absolutely destroyed the Ravens last December but somehow 2012 is more relevant.
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Post by DDNYjets on Jan 4, 2015 12:21:37 GMT -5
Flacco is so much better than he gets credit for. And how about Suggs turning back the clock.
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Post by Touchable on Jan 4, 2015 12:23:07 GMT -5
Flacco is so much better than he gets credit for. And how about Suggs turning back the clock. And just to think, less than 3 years ago half of JI honestly thought that Sanchez was better than Flacco and Ryan. Lolz
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Post by DDNYjets on Jan 4, 2015 12:29:31 GMT -5
Flacco is so much better than he gets credit for. And how about Suggs turning back the clock. And just to think, less than 3 years ago half of JI honestly thought that Sanchez was better than Flacco and Ryan. Lolz And Flacco has endured just as much, if not more, pressure as Sanchez. That was a defensive team during his early years and he was told not to fvck the games up. Pretty much the same as Sanchez minus the color coded system. I remember Ed Reed calling him out once. Somehow Flacco managed not to crumble under the pressure.
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