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Post by RobR on Dec 29, 2017 19:31:42 GMT -5
This organization never gets anything right. Someone wake me up when Woody sells the team.
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Post by nyjets1969 on Dec 30, 2017 1:33:23 GMT -5
I'm going to say it I think both of them should go. Everyone is raving how great Jamal Adams pick was but anybody on this board could have made that pick he was a gift just like Williams. One thing that is bothering me is the Lack of effort in rebuilding this offense this regime continues to patch holes at QB with scrubs like Mcown and Fitzpatrick. passes on on offensive Weapons like Alvin Kamara. Have neglected drafting and rebuilding the OL. While spending every high round pick on defense they trade for has beens like Brandon Marshall. I personally do not believe that Mac will fix the QB position in the draft or through going after cousins instead he will resign Mcown and sign a scrub like Geno to back him up guaranteed the first player they take will be another DE to replace the bum they drafted in the first round 4 years ago. No nothing will change until Mac is gone and Bowtite with him. if fans consider this year a success after Mac has been here for 3 years now they are insane. The guy has drafted crap the last 3 years I see 3 players that are stars Adams, Maye, and Williams I see a offense that is filled with back up OL including Beachum who is on the downside of his career no QB of the future and no elite weapon that stands out. Sad thing it will be the same thing for a long time because Woody could care less and his brother is just a puppet keeping the seat warm this franchise is a disgrace I think its worst now then is ever has. This team is stuck in limbo nothing will happen no urgency no care. Only thing that is going to bring me on board if the Mac goes after Cousins with the 80 million cap space they have or draft QB. also go hard and heavy in the draft for some weapons.
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Post by JetRepulsion1 on Dec 30, 2017 1:55:38 GMT -5
This organization never gets anything right. Someone wake me up when Woody sells the team. Mac is a clueless bumbling idiot who has produced the worst roster in he league.
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Post by Sonny Werblin on Dec 30, 2017 7:28:31 GMT -5
This organization never gets anything right. Someone wake me up when Woody sells the team. Mac is a clueless bumbling idiot who has produced the worst roster in he league. So, what you're saying is Bowles is the best coach in the league? Mac has drafted far better than Tanny and Idzik, but seriously anyone could do that. So far Mac has shown me only that he's competent. He's done nothing to make me believe he's an above average GM. This draft is make or break for him. He has to land a QB.
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Post by iamthewalrus on Dec 30, 2017 20:58:07 GMT -5
i'm glad... ownership would not have done this without hearing about a vetted, comprehensive plan for this and next offseason. mac has that plan and bowles has his own. this is exciting. As long as "the plan" is getting a MOTHERFUCKING Quarterback in the 1st round of the draft I can live with it. We'll get that QB right after we fill the glaring need for a D lineman.
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Post by RobR on Dec 30, 2017 21:33:13 GMT -5
Mac has drafted far better than Tanny This line by itself is completely laughable. Tanny with all of his warts was the best GM the Jets have had since winning their lone Superbowl almost 50 years ago and it's not even close. As crucified as Tanny is on this board he drafted 4 players that will be in our ring of honor, made some great trades...i.e. Thomas Jones, and did well with free agents like Woody and Faneca. We also had our most success with winning seasons, playoff berths, and a couple of championship games in our history. So far Mac has done shit and we still have a roster that is devoid of talent at any of the major positions that matter in todays NFL.
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Post by ruby2 on Dec 30, 2017 22:46:41 GMT -5
Rob is right on the money
What are Macagnan's hits? He found a #2 WR as a UDFA in Anderson and that's about it. Adams was a good no brainer pick. Williams was gifted to him, and that pick still should have been Beasley.
Every other acquisition/pick can be seriously debated at best, or is downright awful at worst (Hack, D Smith, Buster Skrine, Revis, Gilchrist)
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Post by JStokes on Dec 30, 2017 22:51:43 GMT -5
We should try to replace our GM and HC every 2-3 years.
That’s worked out for every successful franchise.
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Post by Touchable on Dec 30, 2017 23:20:40 GMT -5
Rob is right on the money What are Macagnan's hits? He found a #2 WR as a UDFA in Anderson and that's about it. Adams was a good no brainer pick. Williams was gifted to him, and that pick still should have been Beasley. Every other acquisition/pick can be seriously debated at best, or is downright awful at worst (Hack, D Smith, Buster Skrine, Revis, Gilchrist) I can see it from that side, but I give Macc more props for guys like Leo and Adams than most seemingly do. Look at that drunk McCloughlan that everyone, including myself, wanted. He took a fucking OG at #5 over the likes of Leo, Gurley, Beasley, Kevin White, etc. The majority of the fanbase would’ve been ready to fire his ass right then and there. The only fuckup that people really harp on is Hack. Meh, kid was a 2nd round pick with major raw upside. Did they take him kinda high? Sure, but this isn’t a major strike in my view. How many QB’s taken outside of the 1st round really strike paydirt traditionally outside of the very select few? Unless Bowles and Macc are the two biggest dick brains on the planet, they have to have the common sense to realize that they have to do whatever it takes to bring in a legit option at QB this offseason. Be it throwing the bank at Cousins in FA or taking a QB in the Top 8. Otherwise they’re both toast at seasons end. Only a complete fuckhead could possibly think that bringing back a 39 year old, career journeyman after a 5-11 season is some sort of solid plan when you’re on what is essentially a 1 year prove-it deal, there are 4-5 legit 1st round graded QB prospects in the draft, and a guy like Cousins is most likely about to hit FA and you have an ass load of cap space. I refuse to believe that Macc and Bowles don’t realize that. No one is that much of a delusional dickhole outside of someone who should be banging their head against the wall in a straight jacket.
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Post by JStokes on Dec 30, 2017 23:30:17 GMT -5
Rob is right on the money What are Macagnan's hits? He found a #2 WR as a UDFA in Anderson and that's about it. Adams was a good no brainer pick. Williams was gifted to him, and that pick still should have been Beasley. Every other acquisition/pick can be seriously debated at best, or is downright awful at worst (Hack, D Smith, Buster Skrine, Revis, Gilchrist) I can see it from that side, but I give Macc more props for guys like Leo and Adams than most seemingly do. Look at that drunk McCloughlan that everyone, including myself, wanted. He took a fucking OG at #5 over the likes of Leo, Gurley, Beasley, Kevin White, etc. The majority of the fanbase would’ve been ready to fire his ass right then and there. The only fuckup that people really harp on is Hack. Meh, kid was a 2nd round pick with major raw upside. Did they take him kinda high? Sure, but this isn’t a major strike in my view. How many QB’s taken outside of the 1st round really strike paydirt traditionally outside of the very select few? Unless Bowles and Macc are the two biggest dick brains on the planet, they have to have the common sense to realize that they have to do whatever it takes to bring in a legit option at QB this offseason. Be it throwing the bank at Cousins in FA or taking a QB in the Top 8. Otherwise they’re both toast at seasons end. Only a complete fuckhead could possibly think that bringing back a 39 year old, career journeyman after a 5-11 season is some sort of solid plan when you’re on what is essentially a 1 year prove-it deal, there are 4-5 legit 1st round graded QB prospects in the draft, and a guy like Cousins is most likely about to hit FA and you have an ass load of cap space. I refuse to believe that Macc and Bowles don’t realize that. No one is that much of a delusional dickhole outside of someone who should be banging their head against the wall in a straight jacket. Also Devin Smith but we didn’t have a deep speed guy and he got injured. So not a total fuck up. _
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Post by cgjet on Dec 31, 2017 10:30:01 GMT -5
Depending on how the draft shakes out as well as the success or lack thereof in the FA market, both will be under the gun to produce sooner rather than later. The playoff drought is not acceptable. The need to get the car out of the ditch and get things rolling. For all Rex's faults, and there were many, he took the team to the playoffs before his ego imploded the team.
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Post by Sonny Werblin on Dec 31, 2017 15:01:16 GMT -5
Tannenbaum was in charge of the Jets draft from what 2007 to 2012. Remove the couple of years of mangini's influence on draft picks and it was a complete disaster of trading multiple picks away and whiffing on most every pick.
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Post by RobR on Dec 31, 2017 16:06:08 GMT -5
Tannenbaum was in charge of the Jets draft from what 2007 to 2012. Remove the couple of years of mangini's influence on draft picks and it was a complete disaster of trading multiple picks away and whiffing on most every pick. So the good picks were Mangini and the bad picks were on Tanny....got it. TBH I'm not even trying to make a case for Tanny as some great GM because he wasn't, but when you say Mac has been better that is utter bullshit. Mac has been terrible in every facet of being a GM. Shitty drafts and shitty free agents.
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Post by JStokes on Dec 31, 2017 16:10:40 GMT -5
Can we all agree Idzik was the absolute worst?
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