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Post by Touchable on Feb 7, 2018 11:24:24 GMT -5
I don’t give a flying rats asshole if OG isn’t considered a “premium” position.
This dude is arguably the best overall player in the draft and has 8x all-pro written all over him. Would be the anchor of our OL for the next decade.
Has the potential to be the best run blocker in the game early in his career and fucking stonewalls dudes in pass protection.
He also plays like a mean, dirty bastard on each and every snap.
Sign a quality starting center like Richburg or Jensen then draft Nelson at #6 and you’re looking at a damn good OL.
If you’re going to give Cousins upwards of $100 million guaranteed, then you might as well do what it takes to keep him upright.
If the Jets sign Cousins and B. Chubb is gone by #6, then Nelson is my guy.
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Post by Touchable on Feb 7, 2018 11:30:41 GMT -5
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Post by Touchable on Feb 7, 2018 11:33:16 GMT -5
OVERVIEW
Defensive linemen facing Nelson and Mike McGlinchey on the left side of the Irish's line usually had a long day ahead of them. Nelson is a tough New Jersey kid who earned second-team USA Today All-American honors as a high school senior and was ranked in the top 50 overall recruits nationally as a guard. Notre Dame didn't need him to suit up as a freshman, however, so he redshirted. Nelson got his chance in 2015, starting 11 of 12 games played at left guard (missing parts of two games with an ankle injury) next to 2016 first-round pick Ronnie Stanley. He and McGlinchey then manned the left side in all 12 games of the Irish's disappointing 2016 season, though scouts weren't disappointed with Nelson's ability to move the line of scrimmage low and strong, as well as force defenders to the ground with regularity.
STRENGTHS Built like a bank safe with wide hips, broad chest and powerful limbs. Known for intimidating power. Rarely beaten by power alone. Comes out of the blocks with good pad level. Unlocks powerful hips into contact. Can forklift defenders out of the gap creating massive running lanes. Extremely aggressive at point of attack and isn't happy until he is imposing his will. Premier double team blocker along with teammate Mike McGlinchey. Uses plus leg drive to cave-in down blocks. Moves laterally and in space with adequate fluidity. Works his feet and hips into position to keep blocks secured. Has core strength and body control to make rare recoveries when beaten. Field aware and able to adjust his assignment. Pass sets from desired posture with wide base and evenly distributed weight. Punch is compact and powerful. Fires hands like pistons and is almost always first into the frame with jolt and extension. Able to lock out rushers and maintain complete control with quality mirror through rep. Has hand strength to snatch and sustain in pass pro and run game.
WEAKNESSES Has a tendency to drop his head into contact in front of him. Will lose sight of his target and whiff against slanting, arm-over specialists. Was on the ground more than he should be against Wake Forest defensive tackles looking to shoot gaps. Has a slight hitch when coming out of his stance as a pull blocker. Lingers on secure blocks a fraction too long before moving up to linebackers. May have to expedite his pace against NFL defenses. Still room for improvement in pass protection and keeping athletic rushers centered. Has had some injury concerns over the years.
DRAFT PROJECTION Round 1 (top 10)
SOURCES TELL US "He's so unique because he's big, but he's not fat. He's one of the best run blockers I've ever evaluated, but he's not a liability in pass protection like Mike Iupati is. He's also an alpha who can bring an ass-kicking mindset into your position room." - NFC team personnel executive
NFL COMPARISON Larry Allen
BOTTOM LINE Elite guard prospect with outstanding size, rare power and a block finisher who can make tape room sessions uncomfortable for most opponents. Nelson is technically sound and is unlikely to face a long adjustment period once he gets into the league. Nelson may need to make sure and keep his play speed high and prevent against taking his eyes off of his target when coming off the ball. Nelson has the traits and talent to become an All-Pro guard for years to come.
-Lance Zierlein
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Post by Touchable on Feb 7, 2018 11:38:35 GMT -5
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Post by GATA 👀 on Feb 7, 2018 11:50:16 GMT -5
Me gusta ! We def need more time in the pocket with or without any hypothetical QB scenario |
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Post by JStokes on Feb 7, 2018 11:54:28 GMT -5
I’m not a big fan of going all in on Cousins but if we do I would have no problem with this.
After a franchise QB, my next highest priority is a top top top offensive line.
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Post by beerfish on Feb 7, 2018 12:01:58 GMT -5
No, Chance Warmack was a stud and can't miss as well.
Hey i like the player but i refuse to believe that at 6 there won't be a better choice for us. And yes at some point in time premium position IS important.
Building a team by drafting DT, ILB, S and OG is not the way to go.
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Post by JStokes on Feb 7, 2018 12:38:05 GMT -5
No, Chance Warmack was a stud and can't miss as well. Hey i like the player but i refuse to believe that at 6 there won't be a better choice for us. And yes at some point in time premium position IS important. Building a team by drafting DT, ILB, S and OG is not the way to go. Lol I was a huge Warmack fan. I wanted Warmack and Jonathan Cooper that draft. Probably just as bad as Milliner and Sheldon. What a shit draft. _ |
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Post by vermontjet on Feb 7, 2018 13:14:52 GMT -5
I would be good with this . If you like this kid watch some film on Frank Ragnow Center from Arkansas. Nasty as fuck. Would love for this kid to be there in the 2nd round for us. James Daniels the Iowa Center is a good ball player too.
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Post by Touchable on Feb 7, 2018 13:33:43 GMT -5
No, Chance Warmack was a stud and can't miss as well. Hey i like the player but i refuse to believe that at 6 there won't be a better choice for us. And yes at some point in time premium position IS important. Building a team by drafting DT, ILB, S and OG is not the way to go. I think there’s a damn good chance that he’s the best player on the board when we pick. Say the Jets sign Cousins and both Chubb and Barkley are already off the board at #6. A very real possibility. In that case, I’m not taking some tweener S/CB hybrid like Fitzpatrick or a total boom or bust passrusher from little pissant UTSA like Davenport over a stud OL like Nelson. |
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Post by ruby2 on Feb 7, 2018 14:32:29 GMT -5
For every Warmack, there is also a Decastro.
I sure as hell would prefer taking a shot at trying to actually build an offense capable of competing in todays NFL, then throwing more picks towards Defensive Backs in a league where the rules drastically reduce their value.
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Post by beerfish on Feb 7, 2018 17:11:14 GMT -5
For every Warmack, there is also a Decastro. I sure as hell would prefer taking a shot at trying to actually build an offense capable of competing in todays NFL, then throwing more picks towards Defensive Backs in a league where the rules drastically reduce their value. The value of the 6th pick in the draft and the 24th is pretty large. If the jets signed cousins and decide they don't want to take a QB and other guys that were quoted are gone taken then trade down. If the Jets took a guard a 6, much like taking safety at 6 he better be a 12 year pro bowl every year. We need to build the oline but a friggin guard.... |
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Post by Hotman on Feb 7, 2018 17:32:21 GMT -5
Me gusta ! We def need more time in the pocket with or without any hypothetical QB scenario de seguro, tenemos que construir la línea ya que ha sido demasiado tiempo que han estado descuidando. se ve como una buena pieza para comenzar |
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Post by Touchable on Feb 7, 2018 17:37:35 GMT -5
For every Warmack, there is also a Decastro. I sure as hell would prefer taking a shot at trying to actually build an offense capable of competing in todays NFL, then throwing more picks towards Defensive Backs in a league where the rules drastically reduce their value. The value of the 6th pick in the draft and the 24th is pretty large. If the jets signed cousins and decide they don't want to take a QB and other guys that were quoted are gone taken then trade down. If the Jets took a guard a 6, much like taking safety at 6 he better be a 12 year pro bowl every year. We need to build the oline but a friggin guard.... Scot McLoughan, who half this fanbase was willing to cut their own nuts off to hire as GM, took a guard in the Top 5. Brandon Scherff...damn good OL who has made the pro-bowl 2 of his first 3 years in the league. And Nelson basically shits on Scherff as a prospect. This stuff about OG not being a “premium” position is an outdated way of thinking. This is the modern day NFL where the best interior DL make $18 million a year. And the top guards who block those guys make $12-14 million a year. Hell, the Steelers just paid DeCastro $18 million in 2016. In all likelihood, Nelson is going to be the lynchpin of his teams offensive line for the next 10+ years. A guy who is going to consistently open up monster running lanes and keep your QB standing. If we solve the QB situation with Cousins, then he’s definitely on my shortlist at #6. And if Barkley and Chubb are gone, he probably vaults to #1. |
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Post by GATA 👀 on Feb 7, 2018 17:52:26 GMT -5
Me gusta ! We def need more time in the pocket with or without any hypothetical QB scenario de seguro, tenemos que construir la línea ya que ha sido demasiado tiempo que han estado descuidando. se ve como una buena pieza para comenzar Exacto! A pasado demasiado tiempo descuidada y sin reparo. Para el colmo dejamos ir a uno de los mejores Centros por tratar de reconstruir el resto del equipo. ALWAYS FUCKING SHIT UP . |
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