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Post by Trades on Aug 22, 2018 17:04:43 GMT -5
Great player -- obviously would transform our defense, but the price we would potentially have to pay scares me -- in terms of both picks and $$$. Priority right now and next couple of seasons should be surrounding Darnold with a top 10 OL and upgrade his weapons. A Mack trade reduces ability to do that -- especially if it would cost multiple 1s. Better D gives the O more time on the field. Anything around a 1 and a 3 and I think you have to take it especially considering the FA money we have to throw around next year.
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Post by crossfire on Aug 22, 2018 17:05:35 GMT -5
Great player -- obviously would transform our defense, but the price we would potentially have to pay scares me -- in terms of both picks and $$$. Priority right now and next couple of seasons should be surrounding Darnold with a top 10 OL and upgrade his weapons. A Mack trade reduces ability to do that -- especially if it would cost multiple 1s. Could not agree more. We need to build the O-line and get a #1 receiver for Darnold. Yes, a pass rusher is important but trading picks to get Mack is a bad idea, unless we fleece them, and that’s not going to happen.
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Post by RobR on Aug 22, 2018 18:45:52 GMT -5
Great player -- obviously would transform our defense, but the price we would potentially have to pay scares me -- in terms of both picks and $$$. Priority right now and next couple of seasons should be surrounding Darnold with a top 10 OL and upgrade his weapons. A Mack trade reduces ability to do that -- especially if it would cost multiple 1s. Yup. Every available resource we have in the future, whether it be draft picks or money should be to set up Darnold as our franchise QB for the next decade plus. I'd love to have a Mack and we need a passrusher in the worst way but I'd rather those resources went into 2-3 Olineman, a top receiver, and a dynamic RB. If we trade our 1st next year we are never going to be able to fill the great need of a franchise LT because they never become available. I've had enough of throwing all of resources into a Defense that still is barely average. Oh and Bowles sucks. Think of how much money and draft picks have been allocated to our defense over the last decade and it still sucks. Hopefully we turn the corner this year but I'm not counting on it with Bowles and Rogers.
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Post by Touchable on Aug 22, 2018 18:56:04 GMT -5
Great player -- obviously would transform our defense, but the price we would potentially have to pay scares me -- in terms of both picks and $$$. Priority right now and next couple of seasons should be surrounding Darnold with a top 10 OL and upgrade his weapons. A Mack trade reduces ability to do that -- especially if it would cost multiple 1s. Yup. Every available resource we have in the future, whether it be draft picks or money should be to set up Darnold as our franchise QB for the next decade plus. I'd love to have a Mack and we need a passrusher in the worst way but I'd rather those resources went into 2-3 Olineman, a top receiver, and a dynamic RB. If we trade our 1st next year we are never going to be able to fill the great need of a franchise LT because they never become available. I've had enough of throwing all of resources into a Defense that still is barely average. Oh and Bowles sucks. Think of how much money and draft picks have been allocated to our defense over the last decade and it still sucks. Hopefully we turn the corner this year but I'm not counting on it with Bowles and Rogers. That’s what I don’t get And frankly, I bet a ton of the people willing to trade at least a 1st round pick and dole out $20+ million a year for Mack are also simultaneously bitching about the OL being subpar in front of Darnold. Well, how the fuck are we drastically improving the OL if we have no picks until the 3rd round next year and the only quality OL on the young side set to hit FA is Ali Marpet, and there’s no guarantee the we pursue him or that he would be willing to sign here? Hell, he could very well sign an extension in Tampa within the next few months. Hey, I’d love to have Mack if he hits FA and all we have to do is dish out a big contract to obtain him...but giving up a 1st round pick? Suck my asshole. I’d rather have a Greg Little or Jonah Williams potentially protecting Darnold’s blindside for the next decade.
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Post by Lithfan on Aug 22, 2018 18:58:52 GMT -5
Great player -- obviously would transform our defense, but the price we would potentially have to pay scares me -- in terms of both picks and $$$. Priority right now and next couple of seasons should be surrounding Darnold with a top 10 OL and upgrade his weapons. A Mack trade reduces ability to do that -- especially if it would cost multiple 1s. Better D gives the O more time on the field. Anything around a 1 and a 3 and I think you have to take it especially considering the FA money we have to throw around next year. Better D can give you better field position and it takes pressure off the O, but it does not help keep you franchise QB upright. If we trade and sign Mack, think about the holes we will need to fill in FA next season. Enunwa, Pryor, Kearse, Carpenter, Skrine, Claiborne, Powell, McLendon, Henry Anderson are all free agents. Add in the need for a LT if one somehow becomes available. Giving up $15-$20MM cap space to sign Mack, plus multiple 1s is just too much of a price. Mack is a great player, but we have too many holes to sink that much resource into one guy.
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Post by Hotman on Aug 22, 2018 19:12:10 GMT -5
Whats the point anyways.
As soon as he puts on a Jets clothing he would be routinely flagged for "roughing the passer"
FUCK the NFL
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Post by bxjetfan on Aug 22, 2018 19:24:15 GMT -5
Like we are gonna find a starting LT in next years draft when we are picking at 32.
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Post by bxjetfan on Aug 29, 2018 15:56:11 GMT -5
I've gone back and forth on this. I would trade our first and NO 3d for him. Get it done Mack.
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Post by Mond the Bagnificient on Aug 29, 2018 16:31:25 GMT -5
Defense is almost equal to special teams now with the new rules.
Key to winning is load up on offense and put up 50.
Run and shoot offense would demolish in this league now.
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Post by mainejet on Aug 29, 2018 19:05:55 GMT -5
I think any chance of this happening is now gone now that the Jets traded Teddy. Mac wants to continue to lose. He's good at making losing teams.
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Post by sadface on Aug 30, 2018 2:28:03 GMT -5
I would not trade for Mack until next offseason when the FA landscape is clearer. See who will be available as a UFA or RFA and weigh options then. The draft capital to get him is far too steep. Remember, a single 1st round pick can turn into 3-4 early-mid picks that can be used to find offensive linemen and, hopefully, a pass rusher. I don't care what anyone says: OL is our biggest need, and since our 1st next year will likely be top-10 or top-15 it is too valuable to move without seeing other options.
What's better? Mack at 20+ a year, minus several picks or Demarcus Lawrence at 20+ a year, plus several picks? Or Frank Clark at 15+ a year, plus several picks?
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Post by BEAC0NJET on Aug 30, 2018 8:34:10 GMT -5
No way do I give up next years first and one of our thirds for Mack. That draft capital has to go towards OL and offensive playmakers.
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Post by Harrier on Aug 30, 2018 8:41:18 GMT -5
No way do I give up next years first and one of our thirds for Mack. That draft capital has to go towards OL and offensive playmakers. Go get Fowler for 2 3rds instead.
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Post by Lithfan on Aug 30, 2018 8:49:20 GMT -5
No way do I give up next years first and one of our thirds for Mack. That draft capital has to go towards OL and offensive playmakers. Go get Fowler for 2 3rds instead. You are giving up way too much for Fowler. Last year of his contract, and a head case and bad teammate on top of that. Maybe you throw Jax a conditional day 3 pick that moves up a couple rounds if we re-sign him. Before yesterday, I would have been willing to give up a 6 that becomes a 4 if we re-sign him (similar to the trade we made for Percy Harvin a few years ago). Not sure Jax does it for a 7 that could become a 4, but maybe we can offer a conditional 2020 5 that becomes a 2019 4 if we re-sign him.
A couple of 3rds is too much if you ask me.
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Post by bxjetfan on Aug 31, 2018 11:40:30 GMT -5
Aaron Donald got paid. 6 years 135 million 87 million guaranteed.
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