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Post by willis on Dec 17, 2018 9:37:20 GMT -5
McCarthy ... Harbaugh ... another proven HC ... the problem is, I don't think any of them will come to New York and work under a fucking idiot like Maccagnan. They'll go to places where they are given significant control. I can't imagine McCarthy or Harbaugh agreeing to work under that fucking idiot. The next Jets' HC will probably wind up exactly like Bowles.
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Post by Trades on Dec 17, 2018 9:59:42 GMT -5
McCarthy ... Harbaugh ... another proven HC ... the problem is, I don't think any of them will come to New York and work under a fucking idiot like Maccagnan. They'll go to places where they are given significant control. I can't imagine McCarthy or Harbaugh agreeing to work under that fucking idiot. The next Jets' HC will probably wind up exactly like Bowles. I have problems with the proven coach theory. How many coaches succeed with multiple teams? Why did they leave their current teams and were the problems their fault? The Raiders got a proven coach and look where they are. I don't know who the next great coach is but I think they need to look at all options not just proven coaches.
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Post by tkasper01 on Dec 17, 2018 10:03:51 GMT -5
McCarthy ... Harbaugh ... another proven HC ... the problem is, I don't think any of them will come to New York and work under a fucking idiot like Maccagnan. They'll go to places where they are given significant control. I can't imagine McCarthy or Harbaugh agreeing to work under that fucking idiot. The next Jets' HC will probably wind up exactly like Bowles. I have problems with the proven coach theory. How many coaches succeed with multiple teams? Why did they leave their current teams and were the problems their fault? The Raiders got a proven coach and look where they are. I don't know who the next great coach is but I think they need to look at all options not just proven coaches. I agree. We'd have missed out on McVey and Reich.
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Post by Trades on Dec 17, 2018 10:23:41 GMT -5
I have problems with the proven coach theory. How many coaches succeed with multiple teams? Why did they leave their current teams and were the problems their fault? The Raiders got a proven coach and look where they are. I don't know who the next great coach is but I think they need to look at all options not just proven coaches. I agree. We'd have missed out on McVey and Reich. I like the idea of McCarthy but is he a product of Favre and Rodgers or vice versa? Could he take Sam to the next level and make him great and consistent? Would have also stopped us from considering Pederson or Nagy. Just doesn't make sense. Never a Harbaugh fan (either one). Just something about them I don't like but I can't put a finger on it. Problem is, who on this list of potential head coaches makes you think he is the guy? From SI... John DeFilippo, Vikings OC. Josh McDaniels, Patriots OC. Kris Richard, Cowboys DBs coach. Zac Taylor, Rams QBs coach. Eric Bieniemy, Chiefs OC. Dave Toub, Chiefs special teams coordinator. Lincoln Riley, Oklahoma head coach. Matt Rhule, Baylor head coach. As far as I am concerned I wouldn't go near DeFilippo or McDaniels. I don't want another D guy so Richard is out. Toub is a ST coach, if we didn't give Westhoff a shot why consider this guy? The idea of Riley who has produced 2 top QBs recently is interesting but I don't really know him. Could have easily been a product of his OC, QB coach. What has Baylor done to put him on this list? So that leaves me with Bieniemy and Tayor. Both are working in high flying offenses but is Bieniemy really running anything or is it just Reid's offense? This was from the end of last season . another problem with this theory is Bowles, Spagnuolo and McDermott are on his coaching tree. I would say that only about half of his tree has had success. Which leaves Taylor who is a QB coach. Goff has taken a huge step back in the 2nd half of the season. He doesn't call plays and other than half a season as an interim OC for the Dolphins his experience is very light. TL;DR? I have no answers.
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Post by JETSALLDAY96 on Dec 18, 2018 7:25:13 GMT -5
I have problems with the proven coach theory. How many coaches succeed with multiple teams? Why did they leave their current teams and were the problems their fault? The Raiders got a proven coach and look where they are. I don't know who the next great coach is but I think they need to look at all options not just proven coaches. I agree. We'd have missed out on McVey and Reich. I have a problem with the young hot named coordinator or college coach theory. Remember Andy Reid had a few bad seasons with the Eagles got fired for a young big name coach Chip Kelly and that was a train wreck for the Eagles while he was there? Then Andy Reid got a fresh start with a young team and look where they are now.
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Post by tkasper01 on Dec 18, 2018 7:30:08 GMT -5
I agree. We'd have missed out on McVey and Reich. I have a problem with the young hot named coordinator or college coach theory. Remember Andy Reid had a few bad seasons with the Eagles got fired for a young big name coach Chip Kelly and that was a train wreck for the Eagles while he was there? Then Andy Reid got a fresh start with a young team and look where they are now. Chip Kelly was not a good fit at all in the NFL. I think many folks knew that and were not surprised by his demise. The point I wanted to make was that we should not limit our coaching search scope to any one kind/type of coach. We should interview any and all that have a solid background in coaching and teaching.
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Post by JETSALLDAY96 on Dec 18, 2018 7:41:26 GMT -5
I have a problem with the young hot named coordinator or college coach theory. Remember Andy Reid had a few bad seasons with the Eagles got fired for a young big name coach Chip Kelly and that was a train wreck for the Eagles while he was there? Then Andy Reid got a fresh start with a young team and look where they are now. Chip Kelly was not a good fit at all in the NFL. I thinkĀ many folks knew that and were not surprised by his demise. The point I wanted to make was that we should not limit our coaching search scope to any one kind/type of coach. We should interview any and all that have a solid background in coaching and teaching. We don't need the head coach learning how to be head coach on the fly while trying to develop a young qb. I know going for the young offensive minds is trendy right now, But I think it's better for the Jets to go after a good coach with a proven track record who needs a fresh start. Just my opinion
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Post by willis on Dec 18, 2018 9:02:50 GMT -5
Chip Kelly was not a good fit at all in the NFL. I think many folks knew that and were not surprised by his demise. The point I wanted to make was that we should not limit our coaching search scope to any one kind/type of coach. We should interview any and all that have a solid background in coaching and teaching. We don't need the head coach learning how to be head coach on the fly while trying to develop a young qb. I know going for the young offensive minds is trendy right now, But I think it's better for the Jets to go after a good coach with a proven track record who needs a fresh start. Just my opinion Harbaugh
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Post by tkasper01 on Dec 18, 2018 9:34:54 GMT -5
We don't need the head coach learning how to be head coach on the fly while trying to develop a young qb. I know going for the young offensive minds is trendy right now, But I think it's better for the Jets to go after a good coach with a proven track record who needs a fresh start. Just my opinion Harbaugh Is he really a good coach? He took over a good team with excellent support from a GM and scouting dept. The SB win was more luck than good, as evidenced by the fact that they have been mediocre since. Better than Bowles should not be a determining factor. Ability to lead and teach should be. Some of the young guys bring new techniques to the table that a Harbaugh just does not have. Not saying he would/ is not a good coach just think we should not limit our scope is all.
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Post by Trades on Dec 18, 2018 14:52:22 GMT -5
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Post by tkasper01 on Dec 18, 2018 15:39:08 GMT -5
Maybe he can talk Reggie into joining as well.
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Post by willis on Dec 18, 2018 15:42:08 GMT -5
Well ... whoever we get will need players to surround Sam with ... after the last two weeks, Sam comes across as a QB who can keep us in games, make everyone better, and get the win. This, rather than the last few QBs whose only job was not to fuck up and give the game away.
Imagine if Darnold gets a wide receiver like DeAndre Hopkins ... imagine if we get Le'Veon Bell at running back ... imagine if Chris Herndon continues to develop at tight end ... imagine if Maccagnan the fucking idiot falls into making a couple of upgrades on the OL ... imagine if we draft a couple of really good defensive people, like at DL and LB.
That's a lot of imagining ...
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Post by willis on Dec 18, 2018 16:47:12 GMT -5
One more thing ... and it may be important ... the Jets have a league-low 29 players under contract. Nearly half the roster is headed to free agency ... so a couple of things come to mind. One ... this can really impact their $107 million in cap space if they look to sign a bunch of their soon-to-be free agent guys. Thing number two ... Maccagnan the fucking idiot. With Bowles leaving, the fucking idiot will be completely responsible for deciding which free agents to retain, and for how much dough ... and he is also solely responsible for the draft, trades, and other teams' free agents. Will not have Bowles and his coaches to blame anymore. So ... this is going to be an interesting off season. One thing is for sure ... next season's Jets' roster will definitely define just how much of a fucking idiot Macagnan the fucking idiot truly is. So stay tuned.
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Post by Big L on Dec 18, 2018 22:57:28 GMT -5
I bet the fucking idiot will out fucking idiot himself
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2018 19:25:07 GMT -5
I bet the fucking idiot will out fucking idiot himself
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