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Post by quantum on Nov 27, 2018 14:01:18 GMT -5
Opinions wanted on the following workplace environment:
Shithole Workplace #1 (SW1) has a history of poor hiring practices (nepotism, finding the cheapest labor, hiring the wrong people for technical positions, etc). As a matter of fact, at one point years ago, SW1 had an IT Dept where only 10% of the employees had computer science/information science degrees (the rest were liberal arts, library science, history, etc). With this kind of environment, shit hit the fan on a regular and daily basis.
SW1 has recently went full PC idiot. Now, if tech person A has a disagreement* with non-tech person B on a technical issue** (see below), person B can run to a manager, claim A is being disrespectful of B's opinion, and A is assumed guilty until proven innocent. (Realistically, no A has ever been proven innocent). Person B, in order to make things more serious, can claim victimhood by being a woman or a minority, making A's alleged "abuse" 10x worse. Also, the number of years of experience that A and B have in the field of the technical issue are irrelevant. Also, in this environment, Bs feel free to lie outright to get an advantage on performance reviews, being challenged again, etc
* disagreement: nothing inappropriate, no insults, but person A telling person B "I think you're wrong" or "I don't think you have any experience in that field"
**technical issue: could be anything from software development, configuring routers, configuring a server, etc.
Fire away gentlemen!
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Post by Trades on Nov 27, 2018 14:17:02 GMT -5
Opinions wanted on the following workplace environment: Shithole Workplace #1 (SW1) has a history of poor hiring practices (nepotism, finding the cheapest labor, hiring the wrong people for technical positions, etc). As a matter of fact, at one point years ago, SW1 had an IT Dept where only 10% of the employees had computer science/information science degrees (the rest were liberal arts, library science, history, etc). With this kind of environment, shit hit the fan on a regular and daily basis. SW1 has recently went full PC hot guy I'd like to blow. Now, if tech person A has a disagreement* with non-tech person B on a technical issue** (see below), person B can run to a manager, claim A is being disrespectful of B's opinion, and A is assumed guilty until proven innocent. (Realistically, no A has ever been proven innocent). Person B, in order to make things more serious, can claim victimhood by being a woman or a minority, making A's alleged "abuse" 10x worse. Also, the number of years of experience that A and B have in the field of the technical issue are irrelevant. Also, in this environment, Bs feel free to lie outright to get an advantage on performance reviews, being challenged again, etc * disagreement: nothing inappropriate, no insults, but person A telling person B "I think you're wrong" or "I don't think you have any experience in that field" **technical issue: could be anything from software development, configuring routers, configuring a server, etc. Fire away gentlemen! Sounds pretty typical. I disagree on the value you place on a college degree to the IT world though. Corporate America is totally PC now. Not much can be done about it from a workers level. |
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Post by southparkcpa on Nov 27, 2018 14:25:34 GMT -5
It's why I work for my self.... my boss is a jerk off BUT he and I get along well.
I could NEVER deal with it.
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Post by BEAC0NJET on Nov 27, 2018 14:32:25 GMT -5
Sounds like par for the course these days. If you dont agree with someone, you're obviously biased. Unless you're both middle age white guys. My company has increasingly outsourced tier one customer support to call centers in Asia. The level of accuracy in their troubleshooting and answers is probably 25%, being generous. Being on the technical sales engineering side of things, guess who the angry customers call when Support is giving them woefully wrong answers? Which eats into my time which should be spent bringing in new revenue, and posting in the Hampur  And pretty much everyone knows it, but is hesitant to complain too much... for the obvious PC reasons. It will take losing a major customer to get any change, and even then, its doubtful, 'cause they're cheap labor. |
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Post by Trades on Nov 27, 2018 14:36:28 GMT -5
Sounds like par for the course these days. If you dont agree with someone, you're obviously biased. Unless you're both middle age white guys. My company has increasingly outsourced tier one customer support to call centers in Asia. The level of accuracy in their troubleshooting and answers is probably 25%, being generous. Being on the technical sales engineering side of things, guess who the angry customers call when Support is giving them woefully wrong answers? Which eats into my time which should be spent bringing in new revenue, and posting in the Hampur And pretty much everyone knows it, but is hesitant to complain too much... for the obvious PC reasons. It will take losing a major customer to get any change, and even then, its doubtful, 'cause they're cheap labor. The offshore labor is the biggest joke in IT. Everyone that has to interact with them knows how incompetent they are and anyone that makes decisions doesn't have to interact with them. |
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Post by BEAC0NJET on Nov 27, 2018 14:41:43 GMT -5
Sounds like par for the course these days. If you dont agree with someone, you're obviously biased. Unless you're both middle age white guys. My company has increasingly outsourced tier one customer support to call centers in Asia. The level of accuracy in their troubleshooting and answers is probably 25%, being generous. Being on the technical sales engineering side of things, guess who the angry customers call when Support is giving them woefully wrong answers? Which eats into my time which should be spent bringing in new revenue, and posting in the Hampur And pretty much everyone knows it, but is hesitant to complain too much... for the obvious PC reasons. It will take losing a major customer to get any change, and even then, its doubtful, 'cause they're cheap labor. The offshore labor is the biggest joke in IT. Everyone that has to interact with them knows how incompetent they are and anyone that makes decisions doesn't have to interact with them.Exactly! Even the higher tier support and direct management in the US know its a joke, but they don't speak up, cause they like having a job. Its the guys at the top making the decisions that don't have to deal with them. |
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Post by Trades on Nov 27, 2018 14:46:45 GMT -5
The offshore labor is the biggest joke in IT. Everyone that has to interact with them knows how incompetent they are and anyone that makes decisions doesn't have to interact with them.Exactly! Even the higher tier support and direct management in the US know its a joke, but they don't speak up, cause they like having a job. Its the guys at the top making the decisions that don't have to deal with them. My last company off shored all level one and a lot of level 3 support. Level 2 support was outsourced but because it is deskside they are still on shore but they go cheap so that means bad. The funny thing is the only permanent people were Executive Support. I wonder why?!?! |
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Post by BEAC0NJET on Nov 27, 2018 14:49:50 GMT -5
CEO's laptop's gotta work, amirite? They get the good support.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2018 17:23:11 GMT -5
I don't like your list, or your East Coast bias. Why do you disrespect me?
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Post by 2foolish on Nov 27, 2018 18:48:36 GMT -5
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Post by Jetworks on Nov 27, 2018 21:08:31 GMT -5
Opinions wanted on the following workplace environment: Shithole Workplace #1 (SW1) has a history of poor hiring practices (nepotism, finding the cheapest labor, hiring the wrong people for technical positions, etc). As a matter of fact, at one point years ago, SW1 had an IT Dept where only 10% of the employees had computer science/information science degrees (the rest were liberal arts, library science, history, etc). With this kind of environment, shit hit the fan on a regular and daily basis. SW1 has recently went full PC hot guy I'd like to blow. Now, if tech person A has a disagreement* with non-tech person B on a technical issue** (see below), person B can run to a manager, claim A is being disrespectful of B's opinion, and A is assumed guilty until proven innocent. (Realistically, no A has ever been proven innocent). Person B, in order to make things more serious, can claim victimhood by being a woman or a minority, making A's alleged "abuse" 10x worse. Also, the number of years of experience that A and B have in the field of the technical issue are irrelevant. Also, in this environment, Bs feel free to lie outright to get an advantage on performance reviews, being challenged again, etc * disagreement: nothing inappropriate, no insults, but person A telling person B "I think you're wrong" or "I don't think you have any experience in that field" **technical issue: could be anything from software development, configuring routers, configuring a server, etc. Fire away gentlemen! Waitaminute. You have the hots for some new guy in charge? And NONE of you commented on this? Kk. |
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Post by shakin on Nov 27, 2018 21:43:54 GMT -5
i am surrounded by a cadre of sjw emo millennials that have no clue about how the real world is going to hit them in the face with a 2x4 when they get out of mommy and daddy's basement apartment
i shake my cane with pride. and my dick. straight white male you fuckin dooshbargs. blame me for all your problems but lick my balloon knot because i don't fuckin care about your 'feelings'
that is all
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Post by quantum on Nov 28, 2018 10:15:30 GMT -5
Opinions wanted on the following workplace environment: Shithole Workplace #1 (SW1) has a history of poor hiring practices (nepotism, finding the cheapest labor, hiring the wrong people for technical positions, etc). As a matter of fact, at one point years ago, SW1 had an IT Dept where only 10% of the employees had computer science/information science degrees (the rest were liberal arts, library science, history, etc). With this kind of environment, shit hit the fan on a regular and daily basis. SW1 has recently went full PC hot guy I'd like to blow. Now, if tech person A has a disagreement* with non-tech person B on a technical issue** (see below), person B can run to a manager, claim A is being disrespectful of B's opinion, and A is assumed guilty until proven innocent. (Realistically, no A has ever been proven innocent). Person B, in order to make things more serious, can claim victimhood by being a woman or a minority, making A's alleged "abuse" 10x worse. Also, the number of years of experience that A and B have in the field of the technical issue are irrelevant. Also, in this environment, Bs feel free to lie outright to get an advantage on performance reviews, being challenged again, etc * disagreement: nothing inappropriate, no insults, but person A telling person B "I think you're wrong" or "I don't think you have any experience in that field" **technical issue: could be anything from software development, configuring routers, configuring a server, etc. Fire away gentlemen! Waitaminute. You have the hots for some new guy in charge? And NONE of you commented on this? Kk. creative mod editing. Its funny when it happens to others, but I'm thinking about adding it to my list. |
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Post by quantum on Nov 28, 2018 10:16:58 GMT -5
I don't like your list, or your East Coast bias. Why do you disrespect me? Thanks for your input. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2018 11:00:42 GMT -5
I don't like your list, or your East Coast bias. Why do you disrespect me? Thanks for your input. Sorry; shudda been in quotes. I was tried to give you a humorous feedback loop with sensational millennial flavor. It was not a shot over your brow. |
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