I think this is a smokescreen Rosen is clearly the highest ranked QB on the board only thing is his injury history. If this happens it would be a flashback to 83 draft anyone remember Dan Marino? Allen I could understand he is a guy that requires time to develop but Rosen could start day 1 and skill wise is miles ahead of Mayfield.
I rewatched the draft that had Blaine Gabbert & Jake Locker last night. Smelled like Josh Allen. Upside my ass. I'm not trading up into top 3 for a hope. People wanna compare Josh Allen to guys like Brett Farve & Big Ben, but when you mention Drew Brees or even Russell Wilson with Baker Mayfield, people wanna freak out with "you can't compare him to those guys!". Double standards like crazy.
People wanna harp on Baker's offense but not mention that Mahomes was in a more gimmicky offense. Bring up maturity issues like these cats aren't all coming from college. How do we know the other guys don't have maturity issues when the camera is off them? At least you know what you're getting with Baker. Better than a surprise domestic violence accident or something. "Maturity issues" doesn't equal "character issues". Teammates & coaches love him.
100% agreed Allen is not a instant starter he is a guy that will have to sit for at least a year or 2 The Jets don't have that luxury right now Mccown hasn't played a whole season and Bridgewater is not even ready for workouts his knee isn't 100% so its likely whoever is drafted will be starting this season. Every scouting report says that Allen has to sit a year or 2. As much as Allen pure upside would kill me to pass on him I would go Mayfield knowing that I don't have the option to sit him for a year. With Baker you know he can play the Jets could adjust to a more scheme offense to fit Bakers ability just like the Eagles did with Foles who played in a spread offense. Baker Is ready to play day 1 and should bring some real competition to camp. Hackenberg was considered a real physical specimen with generational arm strength but had footwork and accuracy issues would need a year or 2 to sit sounds like another Hackenberg plus Wyoming isn't even in the same class as Penn State competition wise that should make you think really hard about that one.
Post by nyjets1969 on Mar 30, 2018 14:08:01 GMT -5
They taking the top 3 Allen, Rosen, or Darnold whoever is left. If by some chance they do the unthinkable and pick any other player they will be finished in NY. They know their careers depend on this pick Mac isnt a chance taker the one time he did it with Hackenberg it went bad. I dont even think he will draft Baker just too risky. They will stay safe pick 1 of the big 3 thats why they traded into the top 3 didnt give up a first round pick so it wasnt as costly as people portray it.
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Thats hoping for to much there. After reading about Bowles say there are 6 to 7 players we are targeting to draft after they traded up to 3 says they cant even set up a smoke screen right. Bottom line they were to stupid to tank the right way are inly hope is they fall on a QB but the will screw that up too.
if the giants want chubb or barkley they would be idiots not to force the jets to swap places with them and steal a couple extra picks out of maccagnan, to cockblock any team offering the gints the moon to get that 2 pick. it's a no fucking brainer for gettleman... if and when he does it you heard it here first dickheads
Lets hope Macc aint that stupid and gullible
Thats hoping for to much there. After hearing Bowles say there are 6 to 7 players we are targeting to draft after they traded up to 3 says they cant even set up a smoke screen right. Bottom line they were to stupid to tank the right way are inly hope is they fall on a QB but the will screw that up too.
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I’m not taking a 6’0 QB with maturity concerns who hails from the most simplistic offense in college football over a kid who’s 6’5 240, possesses generational arm talent and freakish athleticism, and has 3 years of experience in a pro-style system where he routinely took shots downfield.
That Hackenberg shit has completely warped Jets fans minds.
Well if Josh Allen is what you described he wont be around by #3 so you wont have to worry about that.
So was Drew Brees and Russell Wilson wonder if you would pass on them? even Aaron Rogers barely hits 6' 2
Drew Brees is a once in a generation qb. Russell Wilson is above average at best. I don't want him. The defense won that super bowl. Not him.
And are you really comparing Rodgers to mayfield? Please say yes so I can mock you
Yes I am saying that you cant base it on height it goes deeper then the guy is to short. You can draft Allen who fits the perfect NFL QB and he could turn out to be the next Hackenberg. Personally if we base it on height then Hackenberg and Glennon become the next Dan Marino. It goes deeper than that that what Mac gets paid the big bucks for to sit here and scout these guys. I be happy with any of these QBs I'm just pointing out what the experts are saying. I know one thing if Mac makes the wrong choice might as well find something else to do Sunday because this team is done for a decade.
I just wish I had more confidence that Macc would pick the right guy, and that Bowles and his staff will be able to develop the guy.
This in a nutshell. Mac already has a piss poor track record and by evaluating the moves he has made it's apparent that he has no plan. He was supposed to be this super scout that can build through the draft which we all know is the only successful way to build a team and his drafts suck balls. It's the whole reason we have a bazillion dollars in free agency yet again. Do you know what teams don't have massive amounts of cap space every couple of years?....it's the teams that draft good and have too pay for their great decisions(not directed at you). I won't even get into his free agent record.
Then we have Bowles who can't even control a locker room and they have to jettison every player he doesn't mesh with......year after fucking year. We are close or maybe leading the league in arrests with all of these choir boys. I'll leave out his in game coaching and personnel decisions for another discussion.
I've never hated being a Jets as much as with these two clowns running the show. If they were fired after the season at least I would have had a glimmer of hope.....now nothing.
you summarized perfectly what is wrong with Mac and Bowles this is exactly why I felt this guy should have been kicked to the curb instead of handed an extension.
LOL. Chris Johnson making better decisions than Mac. We are fucked come draft day with this moron in charge.
Glad Johnson put a stop to this dumb decision by Mac the guy is 31 year old lock room cancer who is on decline. All this guy would do is come in and corrupt the whole team. Bowles was behind this too he has a thing for Suh but Mac is the bigger idiot for not saying no.
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Post by nyjets1969 on Mar 17, 2018 10:44:08 GMT -5
When Im wrong I will have the balls to admit it. I made a post that said he wasnt drafting a QB. Maybe it was the owner maybe it was a angry fanbase like me that was sick of the crap. He did the right thing for once. Maybe people dont like losing the draft picks but its worth it the QB position is the hardest to draft when you have a chance to take a potential franchise QB in a draft that has 4 of them you do it no questions asked. So for once I give Macs props for doing the right thing.
Post by nyjets1969 on Mar 16, 2018 16:41:38 GMT -5
Reach for Luke Falk 2nd round pick still do not believe he will take a QB at 6 the Bills will jump the Jets and the big 4 will be off the board. The Jets will take Chubbs or Fitzpatrick maybe Nelson going by his BPA list. After seeing them refuse to resign Jenkins over a million a year difference I believe Mac listens to Bowles when it comes to drafting and FAs. They literally ignore the offense the only guy decent was Crowell. Spencer has spent every season on injured. Bridgewater was worth taking a chance on thats what Mac will use as his reasoning for not trading up.
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McCown signing is like having a QB coach for the youngun's. $10m for a QB coach. I had no idea they made that much. Probably could have not paid McCown and just hired a QB coach, and save $10m on the cap. But what the fuck do I know..
You know more than the jets idiot GM. That guy is a fucking idiot. Fuck this franchise.
Im glad someone is starting to see what I said about this GM he just let Jenkins walk over a million dollar difference a year. This draft sucks for TEs now the Jets have scrubs as starting TEs just when this franchise takes some steps foward the idiot GM blows it up.
Post by nyjets1969 on Mar 14, 2018 20:29:00 GMT -5
I like the Bridgewater signing this could be another Drew Brees type situation. What I don't like is wasting 10 million on a Jag QB who is going to suck up valuable playing time from a rookie(if the Jets draft one) and Bridgewater. All Mccown is doing is taking up playing time that can be used to get a Young QB whether that's Bridgewater or the rookie to continue to build a foundation for the future instead we live in the narrow mind of Mac who thinks Mccown will give them a playoff run when all it is doing is slowing the development of a young QB. All this will do is give the Jets a few more wins nothing more. This is why I hate Mac if you are rebuilding a team 39 year old QBs don't work they just get in the way. I am hoping I'm wrong but still believe they will not trade up and will skip an early pick of the many QB prospects coming out. Mac is a very limited GM who can not think outside the box this wasn't a bad free agency but it could have been better the Jets waited 24 hours for Cousins and did not engage the tampering period meaning he could not multi task his priorities. The Jets still need a center Richberg was a better free agent and the Jets could have capitalize on it by him only to have to change locker rooms. Long is good fits the scheme but has bee injured every year he has played he wont be an upgrade if he cant stay on the field.
Trumaine Johnson was a solid pick up but the Jets over paid for him maybe they had too because no one wants to play for them which ask the Question why not overpay for Jenkins? The Jets have no decent options at TE. The one signing I love is Crowell that was a great pick up this guy is explosive and runs hard he will pound the hole a back with good size and speed will add a dimension this team hasn't had in a while. Avery Williamson good LB problem he didn't play 3rd downs like Davis did so is he a full time LBer?
Post by nyjets1969 on Mar 13, 2018 11:26:06 GMT -5
Unless the Jets trade up they are not getting anyone. I stand by my prediction they will not draft a QB at #6. Mac is the worst GM to ever run this franchise already big name free agents are gone 92 million and no signings. Mac has no plan he is in over his head doesnt have a clue he should have been gone end of last season.
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Guess which QB the Jets will draft? I’ll guess the one that’s closest to Ryan Leaf and will be out of the league in less than 3 years.
That's been the Jets MO for years.
They're looking for the next Joe Namath.
They'll end up with Browning Nagle.
Jets only shot at a real QB is to throw money at Cousins.
Jets can throw all the money they want he will end up on the Vikings. The Jets have only themselves to blame as they have done nothing to rebuild tbe offense already big name Wrs are gone in FA and they are about to lose Jenkins the only real TE they had since the days of Micky Shuler. With 92 million cant even resign their TE as a selling point for Cousins.
As far a QBs in tbe draft this is best QB draft since 83 they could get a good one these guy are miles ahead of Browning Nagle. Here we go again Mac is so one dimensional GM he wont trade up the Bills and maybe the cardinals will jump the Jets leaving Mac again holding the bag. Leave it to Mac to find away to screw the entire fan base for the next decade.
Post by nyjets1969 on Mar 11, 2018 20:22:52 GMT -5
If the Jets dont trade up they are not drafting a QB 4 QBs will be off the board by the time the Jets pick.They have to at least move to the Colts spot or they are not drafting one. The Bills will trade up unless by some freak of nature they surprise everyone and sign cousins