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Post by shakin on Aug 17, 2020 13:43:10 GMT -5
I dropped a few sheckles for you. My Daughter had a friend who did this right after HS. She had moved away a few years before. Permanent solution to a temporary problem. Terrible shame. thank you man. means a lot to me. |
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Post by shakin on Aug 17, 2020 13:48:26 GMT -5
it's true. but you can be a great parent and still have this horrible thing happen. one of my casino dealers also lost his 12 year old kid to this. wasn't bullied. that young i really don't think they understand the permanence of what they're doing. i know it sounds stupid but i can't believe they're developed enough to get it. if this covid shit lasts much longer it's gonna be a real problem. so fucking scary and sad Agreed and I definitely didn't mean to imply that it was bad parenting. I was trying to say you can try to do everything right but there are so many influences you never know. yeah i didn't take what you said that way. just saying it happens in the full spectrum of 'good/bad' households. it's fucking scary i can't imagine being a 15 year old kid today, kept out of school, no sports, bombarded with fucking garbage on social media and real media, seeing what's going on in the world. holy fuck. |
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Post by frostlich on Aug 17, 2020 15:28:19 GMT -5
Unfortunately had to go thru this a few years ago with one of my sons friends. 17 at the time finishing his junior year of HS.
Nobody saw it coming. Great kid...kind of young man that made a point of walking across a crowded room to greet you and shake your hand when you entered it. Just a rarity today.
By far the most horrible experience for everyone involved.
This was followed by several more suicides over the next few years. Each one as heartbreaking as the previous. Middle school/high school/college. Kids!
The similarities among each (and survived attempts) was this: whatever they were going through they wanted it to stop.
There was no consideration of the permanency. Its just not the way it works. They just wanted it to stop.
Its all too common and a subject nobody wants to talk about. Addressing/treating mental health issues would seem to effect so many related issues. I wish we were all way better in this area as a society.
A little bit coming your way Shakin. Sorry man!
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Post by shakin on Aug 17, 2020 15:50:56 GMT -5
Unfortunately had to go thru this a few years ago with one of my sons friends. 17 at the time finishing his junior year of HS. Nobody saw it coming. Great kid...kind of young man that made a point of walking across a crowded room to greet you and shake your hand when you entered it. Just a rarity today. By far the most horrible experience for everyone involved. This was followed by several more suicides over the next few years. Each one as heartbreaking as the previous. Middle school/high school/college. Kids! The similarities among each (and survived attempts) was this: whatever they were going through they wanted it to stop. There was no consideration of the permanency. Its just not the way it works. They just wanted it to stop. Its all too common and a subject nobody wants to talk about. Addressing/treating mental health issues would seem to effect so many related issues. I wish we were all way better in this area as a society. A little bit coming your way Shakin. Sorry man! this! and this is exactly what the parents of young james are trying to address with james's warriors. addressing the stigma of 'considering' it, which leads to more secrecy and shame which almost ensures the act. i honestly don't know where the parents, bobby and donna, get the strength, it was only october of 2018 that it happened, but they are unstoppable, all with the most positive and supportive energy you can imagine. i'm certain it's horrible pain and suffering behind the scenes, i really just can't fathom it. thank you for contributing, it means a lot |
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Post by 2foolish on Aug 17, 2020 17:09:09 GMT -5
Unfortunately had to go thru this a few years ago with one of my sons friends. 17 at the time finishing his junior year of HS. Nobody saw it coming. Great kid...kind of young man that made a point of walking across a crowded room to greet you and shake your hand when you entered it. Just a rarity today. By far the most horrible experience for everyone involved. This was followed by several more suicides over the next few years. Each one as heartbreaking as the previous. Middle school/high school/college. Kids! The similarities among each (and survived attempts) was this: whatever they were going through they wanted it to stop. There was no consideration of the permanency. Its just not the way it works. They just wanted it to stop. Its all too common and a subject nobody wants to talk about. Addressing/treating mental health issues would seem to effect so many related issues. I wish we were all way better in this area as a society. A little bit coming your way Shakin. Sorry man! this! and this is exactly what the parents of young james are trying to address with james's warriors. addressing the stigma of 'considering' it, which leads to more secrecy and shame which almost ensures the act. i honestly don't know where the parents, bobby and donna, get the strength, it was only october of 2018 that it happened, but they are unstoppable, all with the most positive and supportive energy you can imagine. i'm certain it's horrible pain and suffering behind the scenes, i really just can't fathom it. thank you for contributing, it means a lot so horrible and permanent and sad...will kick in... |
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Post by shakin on Aug 17, 2020 19:13:22 GMT -5
i had no doubt greenie would come through
thank you my friend, seriousy
major side benefit to my hampur boys coming through (besides the cause) is i get one night of being like "see? see?" to mrs. shakin about how i'm not spending time with ghey bots and losers on this site. so thankee much lads
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Post by 32Green on Aug 17, 2020 19:14:08 GMT -5
Done. We had a bunch in our town and it was terrifying as a parent. Sopne was home for a visit a few years ago and I drove him to the LIRR when he was leaving because its an easy connection to the Airtrain and JFK. We get there and I see all the cop cars and fire trucks and First responders on the platform and I knew something bad had happened. I see a neighbor who tells me some kid jumped. Ugh.
I head towards JFK and we had a conversation about suicide and its finality..then his phone starts blowing up as we arrive at the terminal. I hug him, drop him there and head back. 10 minutes later he texts me from his gate. It was the younger brother of one of his good friends who jumped. 17 years old. He knew him well and had gone skiing with the family a bunch of times. Apparently his girlfriend broke up with him. He calls her, tell her what he's going to do, goes to the station, leaves his wallet on the platform and jumps. The girlfriend calls the mother, they both arrive to the scene I witnessed. Unbeknownst to me, and as I was heading to the airport..my then 12 year old dopne also arrived at the station with her friends to get pizza...as the mother arrives shrieking and the first responders restrained her from going to the platform. She came home shaken and in tears as did her friends.
I had to have the talk with both of them...and sadly it was the first of 3 in 4 months in my town. Professionally, I stopped counting at 10 the number of cops whom I personally knew that did it. Might be close to 20 now...Its fucked up. There's a trend I'm not sure what to feel about where they dont mention the suicide and and memorialize the kids as heroes and perfect in the local paper..which I think feeds into the twisted pain of others who see this. I just try to keep communicating with and monitoring my kids...just to let them know they can tell me anything and that fucking up in life is fine and normal..or that feeling fucked up is normal too...
Prayers for your friends and the souls of their kids, Shakes.
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Post by 32Green on Aug 17, 2020 19:20:47 GMT -5
i had no doubt greenie would come through thank you my friend, seriousy major side benefit to my hampur boys coming through (besides the cause) is i get one night of being like "see? see?" to mrs. shakin about how i'm not spending time with ghey bots and losers on this site. so thankee much lads Np. Funny, I was driving back from Lake George this morning and thought of you when I passed Saratoga, a place I have yet to make it to. Saw a great Trump boat-flotilla on the big lake which was pretty funny, tho. |
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Post by shakin on Aug 17, 2020 19:21:07 GMT -5
Done. We had a bunch in our town and it was terrifying as a parent. Sopne was home for a visit a few years ago and I drove him to the LIRR when he was leaving because its an easy connection to the Airtrain and JFK. We get there and I see all the cop cars and fire trucks and First responders on the platform and I knew something bad had happened. I see a neighbor who tells me some kid jumped. Ugh. I head towards JFK and we had a conversation about suicide and its finality..then his phone starts blowing up as we arrive at the terminal. I hug him, drop him there and head back. 10 minutes later he texts me from his gate. It was the younger brother of one of his good friends who jumped. 17 years old. He knew him well and had gone skiing with the family a bunch of times. Apparently his girlfriend broke up with him. He calls her, tell her what he's going to do, goes to the station, leaves his wallet on the platform and jumps. The girlfriend calls the mother, they both arrive to the scene I witnessed. Unbeknownst to me, and as I was heading to the airport..my then 12 year old dopne also arrived at the station with her friends to get pizza...as the mother arrives shrieking and the first responders restrained her from going to the platform. She came home shaken and in tears as did her friends. I had to have the talk with both of them...and sadly it was the first of 3 in 4 months in my town. Professionally, I stopped counting at 10 the number of cops whom I personally knew that did it. Might be close to 20 now...Its fucked up. There's a trend I'm not sure what to feel about where they dont mention the suicide and and memorialize the kids as heroes and perfect in the local paper..which I think feeds into the twisted pain of others who see this. I just try to keep communicating with and monitoring my kids...just to let them know they can tell me anything and that fucking up in life is fine and normal..or that feeling fucked up is normal too... Prayers for your friends and the souls of their kids, Shakes. jesus... i mentioned the kids, i mentioned the vets, totally overlooked the insane numbers of cops. especially now when they're being demonized. it's fucking heartbreaking and infuriating. i want to cry just typing this shit. in teh fd i responded to a few who did it at the seaford train station, if you've never seen a scene like that, god bless, it's infinitely worse than you can imagine. my oldest son was the last kid to talk to one of his friends that ended up jumping on front of a train in seaford. i didn't respond to the call, but the next fucking day i was on the platform to head into my job in nyc and i saw the sleeve of his flannel shirt on the tracks. sorry man now im crying gotta go |
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Post by 32Green on Aug 17, 2020 19:44:00 GMT -5
Done. We had a bunch in our town and it was terrifying as a parent. Sopne was home for a visit a few years ago and I drove him to the LIRR when he was leaving because its an easy connection to the Airtrain and JFK. We get there and I see all the cop cars and fire trucks and First responders on the platform and I knew something bad had happened. I see a neighbor who tells me some kid jumped. Ugh. I head towards JFK and we had a conversation about suicide and its finality..then his phone starts blowing up as we arrive at the terminal. I hug him, drop him there and head back. 10 minutes later he texts me from his gate. It was the younger brother of one of his good friends who jumped. 17 years old. He knew him well and had gone skiing with the family a bunch of times. Apparently his girlfriend broke up with him. He calls her, tell her what he's going to do, goes to the station, leaves his wallet on the platform and jumps. The girlfriend calls the mother, they both arrive to the scene I witnessed. Unbeknownst to me, and as I was heading to the airport..my then 12 year old dopne also arrived at the station with her friends to get pizza...as the mother arrives shrieking and the first responders restrained her from going to the platform. She came home shaken and in tears as did her friends. I had to have the talk with both of them...and sadly it was the first of 3 in 4 months in my town. Professionally, I stopped counting at 10 the number of cops whom I personally knew that did it. Might be close to 20 now...Its fucked up. There's a trend I'm not sure what to feel about where they dont mention the suicide and and memorialize the kids as heroes and perfect in the local paper..which I think feeds into the twisted pain of others who see this. I just try to keep communicating with and monitoring my kids...just to let them know they can tell me anything and that fucking up in life is fine and normal..or that feeling fucked up is normal too... Prayers for your friends and the souls of their kids, Shakes. jesus... i mentioned the kids, i mentioned the vets, totally overlooked the insane numbers of cops. especially now when they're being demonized. it's fucking heartbreaking and infuriating. i want to cry just typing this shit. in teh fd i responded to a few who did it at the seaford train station, if you've never seen a scene like that, god bless, it's infinitely worse than you can imagine. my oldest son was the last kid to talk to one of his friends that ended up jumping on front of a train in seaford. i didn't respond to the call, but the next fucking day i was on the platform to head into my job in nyc and i saw the sleeve of his flannel shirt on the tracks. sorry man now im crying gotta go I took the train in from Seaford for years. One of the things I mentioned to my kids was the peripheral, collateral damage done to the first responders and RR personel who have to retrieve the remnants of a young life...or having to enter the home of suicide scene with the family still there. |
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Post by tkasper01 on Aug 18, 2020 6:18:06 GMT -5
i had no doubt greenie would come through thank you my friend, seriousy major side benefit to my hampur boys coming through (besides the cause) is i get one night of being like "see? see?" to mrs. shakin about how i'm not spending time with ghey bots and losers on this site. so thankee much lads Np. Funny, I was driving back from Lake George this morning and thought of you when I passed Saratoga, a place I have yet to make it to. Saw a great Trump boat-flotilla on the big lake which was pretty funny, tho. I have not been there in 40 years at least. We would go every summer when I was a kid. Loved the place. |
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Post by tkasper01 on Aug 18, 2020 6:20:42 GMT -5
jesus... i mentioned the kids, i mentioned the vets, totally overlooked the insane numbers of cops. especially now when they're being demonized. it's fucking heartbreaking and infuriating. i want to cry just typing this shit. in teh fd i responded to a few who did it at the seaford train station, if you've never seen a scene like that, god bless, it's infinitely worse than you can imagine. my oldest son was the last kid to talk to one of his friends that ended up jumping on front of a train in seaford. i didn't respond to the call, but the next fucking day i was on the platform to head into my job in nyc and i saw the sleeve of his flannel shirt on the tracks. sorry man now im crying gotta go I took the train in from Seaford for years. One of the things I mentioned to my kids was the peripheral, collateral damage done to the first responders and RR personel who have to retrieve the remnants of a young life...or having to enter the home of suicide scene with the family still there. I had a friend whose older brother worked for the LIRR. They hit a drunk, accidentally, killed him. He was one of the crew that had to go look to see if there was anyone worth saving before helped arrived. F'ed him up for ever after what he saw. |
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Post by shakin on Aug 18, 2020 18:50:23 GMT -5
I took the train in from Seaford for years. One of the things I mentioned to my kids was the peripheral, collateral damage done to the first responders and RR personel who have to retrieve the remnants of a young life...or having to enter the home of suicide scene with the family still there. I had a friend whose older brother worked for the LIRR. They hit a drunk, accidentally, killed him. He was one of the crew that had to go look to see if there was anyone worth saving before helped arrived. F'ed him up for ever after what he saw. it's something you can't ever forget. i miss the camaraderie and the brotherhood of the fire service, but i don't miss the nightmare fodder. |
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Post by Trades on Aug 19, 2020 16:38:35 GMT -5
I think this would be great for ANY person who is struggling today but especially for kids. Was very powerful in my opinion.
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