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Post by Trades on May 24, 2021 12:02:12 GMT -5
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Post by Trades on May 24, 2021 14:33:25 GMT -5
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Post by Trades on Jun 3, 2021 9:15:06 GMT -5
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Post by Trades on Jun 7, 2021 10:12:03 GMT -5
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Post by Trades on Jun 7, 2021 11:02:07 GMT -5
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Post by Trades on Jun 11, 2021 14:12:30 GMT -5
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Post by Trades on Jun 16, 2021 13:19:41 GMT -5
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Post by Ff2 on Jun 18, 2021 15:30:30 GMT -5
Well Obamacare survives its 200th challenge.
You would think they would give up.
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Post by vonrotten on Jun 18, 2021 16:29:27 GMT -5
Well Obamacare survives its 200th challenge. You would think they would give up. It's certainly become a third rail in politics and apparently, the judiciary. I think Obama knew it was a poison pill from the get go. Get it into law asap and damned the legal challenges because once it was in place, no one would dare take it away (except those nasty republicans and Trump, Trump, Trump!). |
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Post by Ff2 on Jun 20, 2021 15:13:21 GMT -5
Well Obamacare survives its 200th challenge. You would think they would give up. It's certainly become a third rail in politics and apparently, the judiciary. I think Obama knew it was a poison pill from the get go. Get it into law asap and damned the legal challenges because once it was in place, no one would dare take it away (except those nasty republicans and Trump, Trump, Trump!). Or just maybe it’s a good idea? |
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Post by Trades on Jun 20, 2021 19:45:24 GMT -5
It's certainly become a third rail in politics and apparently, the judiciary. I think Obama knew it was a poison pill from the get go. Get it into law asap and damned the legal challenges because once it was in place, no one would dare take it away (except those nasty republicans and Trump, Trump, Trump!). Or just maybe it’s a good idea? Nope. Overpriced health insurance with ridiculous deductibles is not a good idea. |
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Post by Ff2 on Jun 21, 2021 8:14:34 GMT -5
Or just maybe it’s a good idea? Nope. Overpriced health insurance with ridiculous deductibles is not a good idea. Worked pretty good for my kid for a bit. I’m not here to tell you it’s the best. But if it isn’t a good idea, what’s the solution for the uninsured? If you say “fuck em” I’ll go with ACA. If you have another plan I’m all ears. Remember when Trump said it would be an easy fix? It ain’t. |
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Post by vonrotten on Jun 21, 2021 8:57:44 GMT -5
Nope. Overpriced health insurance with ridiculous deductibles is not a good idea. Worked pretty good for my kid for a bit. I’m not here to tell you it’s the best. But if it isn’t a good idea, what’s the solution for the uninsured? If you say “fuck em” I’ll go with ACA. If you have another plan I’m all ears. Remember when Trump said it would be an easy fix? It ain’t. Seemed to me that there were other options to explore that would have made it more affordable and more available. Malpractice tort reform was mentioned as one way coupled with the ability to join insurance pols across state lines. That could have been a good place to start instead of jamming it down everyone’s throats. |
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Post by Trades on Jun 21, 2021 9:09:32 GMT -5
Nope. Overpriced health insurance with ridiculous deductibles is not a good idea. Worked pretty good for my kid for a bit. I’m not here to tell you it’s the best. But if it isn’t a good idea, what’s the solution for the uninsured? If you say “fuck em” I’ll go with ACA. If you have another plan I’m all ears. Remember when Trump said it would be an easy fix? It ain’t. It isn't an easy fix because congress isn't doing its job. They are looking for what is best for them (kick backs from insurance companies) not for the whole country. I posted about this years ago but...The best solution for ACTUAL Health care rather than for health insurance is to let the market work. Direct Primary Care where the patient pays a small monthly fee to a doctor less than $50 a month for an adult and $10 for kids that covers routine care, vaccines, check ups, sick visits, etc. Other services are charge at a known price and there is a price list like a menu. Broken arm $100, Xray, $150, etc. They also provide a lot of prescription medications at a known price which is discounted. The patient then pays a low price for a catastrophic insurance plan in case you get cancer, need advanced surgery or a hospital stay. This takes the insurance company and government out of the doctor/patient experience, causes the patient to understand the costs they are paying which helps control pricing, and gives them genuine access to a doctor vs Obamacare which charged ridiculous deductibles on a high price policy and made it so you would pay a ton if you ever had to use it. Of course there are pros and cons to everything but forcing everyone to have a policy that covers things you would never use like trans surgery and other rare procedures is stupid. Atlas MD is one of the better known DPC practices and it looks like they have now created a franchise type system to expand. Whenever you take the consumer out of looking at pricing, prices will naturally go up because there is no reason to shop or to keep prices lower. Look at Lasik surgery and plastic surgery as examples of price controls in medicine since most of those procedures aren't covered by insurance. atlas.md/www.goodrtwitter.com/insurance/direct-primary-care |
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Post by Ff2 on Jun 21, 2021 9:19:30 GMT -5
Worked pretty good for my kid for a bit. I’m not here to tell you it’s the best. But if it isn’t a good idea, what’s the solution for the uninsured? If you say “fuck em” I’ll go with ACA. If you have another plan I’m all ears. Remember when Trump said it would be an easy fix? It ain’t. They are looking for what is best for them (kick backs from insurance companies) not for the whole country. I posted about this years ago but...The best solution for ACTUAL Health care rather than for health insurance is to let the market work. Direct Primary Care where the patient pays a small monthly fee to a doctor less than $50 a month for an adult and $10 for kids that covers routine care, vaccines, check ups, sick visits, etc. Other services are charge at a known price and there is a price list like a menu. Broken arm $100, Xray, $150, etc. They also provide a lot of prescription medications at a known price which is discounted. The patient then pays a low price for a catastrophic insurance plan in case you get cancer, need advanced surgery or a hospital stay. This takes the insurance company and government out of the doctor/patient experience, causes the patient to understand the costs they are paying which helps control pricing, and gives them genuine access to a doctor vs Obamacare which charged ridiculous deductibles on a high price policy and made it so you would pay a ton if you ever had to use it. Of course there are pros and cons to everything but forcing everyone to have a policy that covers things you would never use like trans surgery and other rare procedures is stupid. Atlas MD is one of the better known DPC practices and it looks like they have now created a franchise type system to expand. Whenever you take the consumer out of looking at pricing, prices will naturally go up because there is no reason to shop or to keep prices lower. Look at Lasik surgery and plastic surgery as examples of price controls in medicine since most of those procedures aren't covered by insurance. atlas.md/www.goodrtwitter.com/insurance/direct-primary-careYour first sentence says it all. And it's both asides of the aisle. But I rather have SOMETHING, with many flaws, for the uninsured rather than waiting for the pipe dream of removing insurance companies. I'd love to see the GOP fight insurance companies as hard as they fight ACA. |
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