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Post by Trades on Jul 2, 2021 8:55:45 GMT -5
If only someone stopped travel from the epicenter of the epidemic and subsequent areas. Removed impediments to getting a vaccine fast. Funded said vaccine. Listened to his health advisors like Facci (who was pretty much wrong at every turn) Although the MSM tries to make it look like the US had covid the worst the entire world was hit hard. I don't think any of the numbers from any country are reliable but which world leader did a better job? Babbling Joe hasn't done anything except continue Trump's plan. The only difference is how it is reported. Yeah Donald was right on top of it…. Words over action. Feelings over facts. The leftist backwards philosophy at work. |
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Post by Ff2 on Jul 2, 2021 14:48:19 GMT -5
Yeah Donald was right on top of it…. Words over action. Feelings over facts. The leftist backwards philosophy at work. Words matter. BIGLY. By playing down the virus he created inaction across the board. |
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Post by Jetworks on Jul 2, 2021 20:33:55 GMT -5
Show me when the preferred medical experts start talking about how natural immunity is key to emerging from the pandemic, then you can lean on that. There's plenty of real science that shows that, so you'll understand my reticence to wait for that to actually happen. I have no problem with natural immunity being given the same status as vaccine-inducted immunity, but this discussion was more about what happened when the bodies were stacking up. Action was needed fast. No, you said you wanted a serious person to listen to the medical experts. I put forth that those experts STILL refuse to place the importance needed on the SCIENCE of natural immunity, and therefore their expertise/motivations are in question. And if that's true (and it is), then it wouldn't have mattered who was listening to them, as they were not getting sound, scientific advice. Capiche? |
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Post by bxjetfan on Jul 2, 2021 22:31:40 GMT -5
I have no problem with natural immunity being given the same status as vaccine-inducted immunity, but this discussion was more about what happened when the bodies were stacking up. Action was needed fast. No, you said you wanted a serious person to listen to the medical experts. I put forth that those experts STILL refuse to place the importance needed on the SCIENCE of natural immunity, and therefore their expertise/motivations are in question. And if that's true (and it is), then it wouldn't have mattered who was listening to them, as they were not getting sound, scientific advice. Capiche? How do you listen to experts when they keep getting deplatformed? archive.is/QmfsG |
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Post by Trades on Jul 3, 2021 7:12:51 GMT -5
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Post by Jetworks on Jul 3, 2021 7:54:44 GMT -5
Masterful troll job, complete with forced puns. The pragmatic among us are rightfully triggered, and the acolytes are naturally defending it. It's almost like an impromptu polling tool. |
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Post by JetRepulsion1 on Jul 3, 2021 11:22:39 GMT -5
Words over action. Feelings over facts. The leftist backwards philosophy at work. Words matter. BIGLY. By playing down the virus he created inaction across the board. Leaders lead. What he said is akin to FDRs we have nothing to fear but fear itself. He was basically saying, yes, it’s a virus, but it has a 99% survival rate and we will beat it. What did The looney left want him to say? Everyone panic because the end is near? Give me a fucking break. |
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Post by bxjetfan on Jul 3, 2021 11:33:17 GMT -5
Words matter. BIGLY. By playing down the virus he created inaction across the board. Leaders lead. What he said is akin to FDRs we have nothing to fear but fear itself. He was basically saying, yes, it’s a virus, but it has a 99% survival rate and we will beat it. What did The looney left want him to say? Everyone panic because the end is near? Give me a fucking break. I guess he forgot Pelosi and Schumer prancing around their respective Chinatowns telling people it's fine and Trump was a racist for banning travel from China. |
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Post by Jetworks on Jul 3, 2021 17:12:41 GMT -5
Leaders lead. What he said is akin to FDRs we have nothing to fear but fear itself. He was basically saying, yes, it’s a virus, but it has a 99% survival rate and we will beat it. What did The looney left want him to say? Everyone panic because the end is near? Give me a fucking break. I guess he forgot Pelosi and Schumer prancing around their respective Chinatowns telling people it's fine and Trump was a racist for banning travel from China. FFS, how did I forget about that?!?!? What about it, Ff2, doesn't the NYC Health Commissioner (another one of your experts) count in your "listen to the experts" plea? She was telling people to go to the Chinese New Year parade and to continue riding cabs and the subway. |
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Post by RobR on Jul 3, 2021 18:36:55 GMT -5
Since FF likes videos here is Pelosi downplaying the threat of coronavirus almost a month after the xenophobic Trump stopped traffic from China.
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Post by Ff2 on Jul 3, 2021 21:29:53 GMT -5
You guys can post all your Whataboutisms if that floats your boat but Trump was President and he dropped the ball. He took marketing advice from Jared rather that medical advice from infectious disease exoerts.
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Post by Ff2 on Jul 3, 2021 21:33:50 GMT -5
Words matter. BIGLY. By playing down the virus he created inaction across the board. Leaders lead. What he said is akin to FDRs we have nothing to fear but fear itself. He was basically saying, yes, it’s a virus, but it has a 99% survival rate and we will beat it. What did The looney left want him to say? Everyone panic because the end is near? Give me a fucking break. No, no panic. Part of leadership is honesty. Don’t hold motorcycle rallies, weddings or parties folks. Be cautious and hey, you might want to wear a mask. Instead we got pablum about freedom as the bodies stacked up. Buy hey, can’t upset the base. They can’t handle it. |
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Post by Ff2 on Jul 3, 2021 21:40:38 GMT -5
I have no problem with natural immunity being given the same status as vaccine-inducted immunity, but this discussion was more about what happened when the bodies were stacking up. Action was needed fast. No, you said you wanted a serious person to listen to the medical experts. I put forth that those experts STILL refuse to place the importance needed on the SCIENCE of natural immunity, and therefore their expertise/motivations are in question. And if that's true (and it is), then it wouldn't have mattered who was listening to them, as they were not getting sound, scientific advice. Capiche? Yeah I get your opinion. But I’d much rather Trump had listened to infectious disease experts early on over Jared and the My Pillow Guy. Vaccines are working. |
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Post by Jetworks on Jul 4, 2021 6:40:41 GMT -5
No, you said you wanted a serious person to listen to the medical experts. I put forth that those experts STILL refuse to place the importance needed on the SCIENCE of natural immunity, and therefore their expertise/motivations are in question. And if that's true (and it is), then it wouldn't have mattered who was listening to them, as they were not getting sound, scientific advice. Capiche? Yeah I get your opinion. But I’d much rather Trump had listened to infectious disease experts early on over Jared and the My Pillow Guy. Vaccines are working. Not to brow-beat, but it's not an opinion. Trump (and now Biden) still are not getting accurate information from infectious disease experts, as evidenced by the lack of importance placed on natural immunity by the pols and the media. You just did it yourself with that last line. The vaccines are only working BECAUSE of natural immunity; that's how herd immunity works. |
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Post by Ff2 on Jul 4, 2021 14:55:42 GMT -5
Yeah I get your opinion. But I’d much rather Trump had listened to infectious disease experts early on over Jared and the My Pillow Guy. Vaccines are working. Not to brow-beat, but it's not an opinion. Trump (and now Biden) still are not getting accurate information from infectious disease experts, as evidenced by the lack of importance placed on natural immunity by the pols and the media. You just did it yourself with that last line. The vaccines are only working BECAUSE of natural immunity; that's how herd immunity works. Isn’t the most important thing that’s it’s working? Not the why? And tha vaccines are an important part of the picture. Enjoy the 4th |
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