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Post by cgjet on Aug 25, 2021 7:52:36 GMT -5
I look forward to seeing this on television soon. I think the Dems and socialists are going to get their asses handed to them in a bag in the 2022 mid=terms and 2024 general election.....that is if the country can survive until then. |
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Post by nyjetsfan11 on Aug 25, 2021 7:54:16 GMT -5
This should have been planned out years in advance, and it's crazy to think that this wasn't addressed at all. Even if no one expected the Taliban to take over, you still have to be prepared for the worst case scenario, especially when dealing with people's lives. Frustrating as hell. It's hard not to get emotional when watching thousands of Afghani's camping outside the airport for days, essentially begging for their lives and safety, and to know that in a week, we'll be handing them over to the dogs with no means to protect themselves. Fuck dude. I'm usually anti-war, but this makes me wanna take up arms and fight those fuckers myself. We already fought for them, trained them, armed them, etc. They caved in days. Nation building rarely works the way we want. The concept of American freedom and the fortitude to want and keep it is surprisingly not human nature. As we can see with the Covidiots, many and perhaps most people want to be ruled and told what to do. Is it horrible that even given 20 years they couldn't stop the barbarians? Yes, but how many more Americans lives and how much more American money do you want to spend protecting people not willing to try to protect themselves? Our chosen leader ran away with the money and left everyone flat footed because he knew his people didn't have the will to fight the Taliban. It is sad but it is what it is. We can't save everyone. What we can do is keep America free as an example to the world but our fortitude is waning and we could soon be like the rest of the world begging for the scraps our overlords are willing to give. Biden and our woke generals did the withdrawal in reverse thinking he could pull out the troops and then get the people and the equipment out. Thankfully we painted intersectionality murals there to keep the people safe. American generals are more worried about whether their soldiers can wear skirts than about the mission. Incompetence at its finest. This whole debacle is a lesson for those that feel we can export American values and for those that feel we can assimilate the hordes on a grand scale. If we don't wake up soon and remember what this country is about we are doomed for the trash heap of history. I meant the planning of withdrawing. And I agree, it is almost impossible to force a nation to think and behave the way you want them to, it has to come organically from within. What gives me hope is that we DO see a good number oof Afghani's DON'T want the Taliban, and that hopefully, they will find the will and the resources to create a resistance to over come them and install a government that the people want. And if it turns out they want the Taliban, then so be it. They must somehow create the opportunity to at least choose. The only solution for them now is almost purely organic grassroots resistance, and getting aid in whichever way they can. It is their fight now, and I only wish them luck, victory, and freedom. Meanwhile you have "Taliban Khan" (Imran Khan, Pakistans PM) saying the Afghanis have finally broken their "mental chains" hahaha A famous cricket player who fucked tons of women in freer countries talking about how the Afghans are better off now. He can fuck himself too. |
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Post by Trades on Aug 25, 2021 7:54:52 GMT -5
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Post by nyjetsfan11 on Aug 25, 2021 7:58:38 GMT -5
The Taliban suck but I have to side with them on this one. Those same guys are whacking their Taliboners to her. Ass n titties is a universal language. I'd like to see a remix though titled, "I make jihad moves" |
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Post by Trades on Aug 25, 2021 8:02:05 GMT -5
We already fought for them, trained them, armed them, etc. They caved in days. Nation building rarely works the way we want. The concept of American freedom and the fortitude to want and keep it is surprisingly not human nature. As we can see with the Covidiots, many and perhaps most people want to be ruled and told what to do. Is it horrible that even given 20 years they couldn't stop the barbarians? Yes, but how many more Americans lives and how much more American money do you want to spend protecting people not willing to try to protect themselves? Our chosen leader ran away with the money and left everyone flat footed because he knew his people didn't have the will to fight the Taliban. It is sad but it is what it is. We can't save everyone. What we can do is keep America free as an example to the world but our fortitude is waning and we could soon be like the rest of the world begging for the scraps our overlords are willing to give. Biden and our woke generals did the withdrawal in reverse thinking he could pull out the troops and then get the people and the equipment out. Thankfully we painted intersectionality murals there to keep the people safe. American generals are more worried about whether their soldiers can wear skirts than about the mission. Incompetence at its finest. This whole debacle is a lesson for those that feel we can export American values and for those that feel we can assimilate the hordes on a grand scale. If we don't wake up soon and remember what this country is about we are doomed for the trash heap of history. I meant the planning of withdrawing. And I agree, it is almost impossible to force a nation to think and behave the way you want them to, it has to come organically from within. What gives me hope is that we DO see a good number oof Afghani's DON'T want the Taliban, and that hopefully, they will find the will and the resources to create a resistance to over come them and install a government that the people want. And if it turns out they want the Taliban, then so be it. They must somehow create the opportunity to at least choose. The only solution for them now is almost purely organic grassroots resistance, and getting aid in whichever way they can. It is their fight now, and I only wish them luck, victory, and freedom. Meanwhile you have "Taliban Khan" (Imran Khan, Pakistans PM) saying the Afghanis have finally broken their "mental chains" hahaha A famous cricket player who fucked tons of women in freer countries talking about how the Afghans are better off now. He can fuck himself too. The "good ones" are leaving or dead. The rest are doomed. |
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Post by nyjetsfan11 on Aug 25, 2021 8:23:14 GMT -5
I meant the planning of withdrawing. And I agree, it is almost impossible to force a nation to think and behave the way you want them to, it has to come organically from within. What gives me hope is that we DO see a good number oof Afghani's DON'T want the Taliban, and that hopefully, they will find the will and the resources to create a resistance to over come them and install a government that the people want. And if it turns out they want the Taliban, then so be it. They must somehow create the opportunity to at least choose. The only solution for them now is almost purely organic grassroots resistance, and getting aid in whichever way they can. It is their fight now, and I only wish them luck, victory, and freedom. Meanwhile you have "Taliban Khan" (Imran Khan, Pakistans PM) saying the Afghanis have finally broken their "mental chains" hahaha A famous cricket player who fucked tons of women in freer countries talking about how the Afghans are better off now. He can fuck himself too. The "good ones" are leaving or dead. The rest are doomed. I don't think all the good ones are leaving, they can't, there are 38 million people there. We'll see what happens. It feels as though they are for now, but somewhere there, there are those that may become heroes who have fire inside them. I don't think whether or not it is probable or not, because as we've seen, improbabilities coming to fruition have been the harbinger of progress throughout human history. We can only hope for it, only they can fight for it. |
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Post by Trades on Aug 25, 2021 8:25:58 GMT -5
The "good ones" are leaving or dead. The rest are doomed. I don't think all the good ones are leaving, they can't, there are 38 million people there. We'll see what happens. It feels as though they are for now, but somewhere there, there are those that may become heroes who have fire inside them. I don't think whether or not it is probable or not, because as we've seen, improbabilities coming to fruition have been the harbinger of progress throughout human history. We can only hope for it, only they can fight for it. Your glass is way more full than mine on this one. As Denis Miller once said, "The problem with Muslims is it is the couple billion (bad ones) that ruin it for the other eleven." |
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Post by nyjetsfan11 on Aug 25, 2021 8:45:55 GMT -5
I don't think all the good ones are leaving, they can't, there are 38 million people there. We'll see what happens. It feels as though they are for now, but somewhere there, there are those that may become heroes who have fire inside them. I don't think whether or not it is probable or not, because as we've seen, improbabilities coming to fruition have been the harbinger of progress throughout human history. We can only hope for it, only they can fight for it. Your glass is way more full than mine on this one. As Denis Miller once said, "The problem with Muslims is it is the couple billion (bad ones) that ruin it for the other eleven. I don't think it's about islam. I've been living in Egypt for the past two years, and yeah they're muslim, but when you talk to them, especially the younger people, they want more freedom, not less. A lot of muslims agree with women working and being educated, being able to choose what they want to wear, voting for their politicians etc. I mean thats what the whole Arab Spring was about, and that's what Egyptians fought for, for a fairer, freer, richer, and democratic system. I've never lived in Afghanistan, nor have I spoken politics with anyone from there, so I don't have a general idea of what they want. Almost no muslims I've met in my life have ever said they want sharia in the US or to spread. There's a big difference between "islam" and "muslims." So many people here drink and smoke hasish, and the younger generation is only getting more and more open. I've spoken with muslims from Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Lebanon, Palestine, Yemen, syria, Qatar, etc., and none of them have ever told me their vision of the world is for islam to spread or be a certain way or to make others follow, and most of them have very open minds. If your only source of "what muslims want and how they view the world" is through the news, then yeah, they're showing people with extreme views because it scares people and gets views. Look at the Middle East before the 1980's, women were showing cleavage and wearing short skirts. Christianity says to stone a woman to death if she's not a virgin, but (most I hope) christians wouldn't agree to that. If you come to a muslim country, I guarantee you'll be treated with more respect and generosity then you would if you were in the US, at least that's been my experience in the Arab world. |
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Post by Trades on Aug 25, 2021 9:00:34 GMT -5
Your glass is way more full than mine on this one. As Denis Miller once said, "The problem with Muslims is it is the couple billion (bad ones) that ruin it for the other eleven. I don't think it's about islam. I've been living in Egypt for the past two years, and yeah they're muslim, but when you talk to them, especially the younger people, they want more freedom, not less. A lot of muslims agree with women working and being educated, being able to choose what they want to wear, voting for their politicians etc. I mean thats what the whole Arab Spring was about, and that's what Egyptians fought for, for a fairer, freer, richer, and democratic system. I've never lived in Afghanistan, nor have I spoken politics with anyone from there, so I don't have a general idea of what they want. Almost no muslims I've met in my life have ever said they want sharia in the US or to spread. There's a big difference between "islam" and "muslims." So many people here drink and smoke hasish, and the younger generation is only getting more and more open. I've spoken with muslims from Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, Lebanon, Palestine, Yemen, syria, Qatar, etc., and none of them have ever told me their vision of the world is for islam to spread or be a certain way or to make others follow, and most of them have very open minds. If your only source of "what muslims want and how they view the world" is through the news, then yeah, they're showing people with extreme views because it scares people and gets views. Look at the Middle East before the 1980's, women were showing cleavage and wearing short skirts. Christianity says to stone a woman to death if she's not a virgin, but (most I hope) christians wouldn't agree to that. If you come to a muslim country, I guarantee you'll be treated with more respect and generosity then you would if you were in the US, at least that's been my experience in the Arab world. The Taliban leader, who is barely being opposed, is on the record that Sharia Law is his goal for Afghanistan for now and eventually globally. Until "the good people" really take to the street and kick the dictators out then the evil will rule. Then you have the problem of power corrupting etc too. I am sure "the people" of Cuba and Venezuela would like some food and freedom but their dictators have control. I am sure "the people" of many African countries would like food and freedom but the war lords have control. The "Arab spring" wasn't about freedom or at least that isn't what resulted. It recreated a huge slave market in Libya and destabilized a lot of the middle east. A good friend of mine is an Egyptian Christian and he always talks about the downfall of Egypt. Humanity is a shit show and most people will go about their lives ignoring the evil above them while they eek out their meager existence. Few will fight for freedom and many sheep will insult America (from inside and out) using our faults to try to reduce American exceptionalism to be considered beneath communist and Islamic regimes that have been responsible for the greatest evils of our time. Hopefully, some day, Islam will soften and become more civilized like Christianity. I am an atheist so using the bible as a barb was pointless. |
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Post by bxjetfan on Aug 25, 2021 9:03:59 GMT -5
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Post by Trades on Aug 25, 2021 9:17:01 GMT -5
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Post by Trades on Aug 25, 2021 9:17:29 GMT -5
Maybe he has only been to Chicago, St Louis, Detroit and Baltimore. |
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Post by Trades on Aug 25, 2021 9:20:25 GMT -5
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Post by bxjetfan on Aug 25, 2021 9:24:32 GMT -5
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Post by Trades on Aug 25, 2021 9:27:12 GMT -5
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