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Post by shuler82 on Jan 29, 2015 15:55:15 GMT -5
Cut RB Chris Johnson TE Jeff Cumberland OLB Jason Babin OLB Calvin Pace Re-Sign DE Muhammad Wilkerson (extension) NT Damon Harrison (2nd round tender) Sign OG Mike Iupati CB Kareem Jackson CB Antonio Cromartie ILB Brooks Reed RB C.J. Spiller TE Rob Housler QB Matt Moore Draft (3 rounds) 1st round: WR Kevin White - West Virginia 2nd round: OLB Nate Orchard - Utah 3rd round: OG Laken Tomlinson - Duke *4th round pick traded to Seattle for WR Percy Harvin But this is too realistic. You didn't spend $100m against this years cap like the OP
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Post by madcroatian on Jan 30, 2015 9:26:40 GMT -5
I would be thrilled with Untouchable's though not sure about his draft picks
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Post by greenwave on Jan 30, 2015 9:45:34 GMT -5
I apologize if this is a repeat thread but I figured we can start discussing what would be the ideal FA's that the Jets will need to sign. I figure I would take a crack it and see what other interesting names you guys come up with: 1) Antonio Cromartie CB- 2 years- 12 million- He is a natural fit in Bowles scheme. I was dead wrong about him being done. 2) Devin McCourty F/S- 5 years- 40 million- What a steal this would be if we nab him from the Flats*. Contract talks have stalled with him for almost a year now. 3) Greg Hardy DE/OLB- 1 year- 5 million (prove it deal)- He can play all over the field...3-4 OLB, DE...etc...He would be a major risk with his legal issues but well worth it. 4) Jamari Lattimore ILB- 2 years- 4 million- A tad bit undersized but an effective backup and a core special teamer. 5) Shawn Hill QB- 1 year- 3million- A proven backup veteran QB that can spell Geno should he fail again. I just don't see Houston letting Fitzmagic go and stem their hopes on 2nd year QB Tom Savage. 6) Demaryius Thomas WR- 7 years- 112million- I know this is a pipedream but imagine this guy in green and white? Draft Amari Cooper and put Decker in the slot? Talk about turning your offense around but hey its wishful thinking. Tori Smith would be another very good and probably the more realistic option at 7 mill a year on a 4 year contract. 7) CJ Spiller RB- 3 years- 15 million- Perfect compliment with Ivory and a great fit in Chan Gailey's scheme. 8) Mike Iupati LG- 6 years- 100million- One of the biggest if not the biggest Jet area of need, filled with a pro-bowler. 9) Will Montgomery C/G- 2 years- 4million- A rock solid player who can play both center and guard. He can spell Nick Mangold on some plays. 10) Matt Spaeth TE- 1 year 1.25million- Need a very good blocking big bodied TE to open holes for our RB's and to help in the red zone. 11) Resign Snacks, Ellis and Powell and start talking long term deal with Mo Wilkerson. I might be off on some salaries but I really like the guys that I picked. Then the Jets FO can focus on getting the BPA in the draft. Thoughts? I think the Jets can get Spiller and Cro for less money than that, but keeping it realistic, give me these four (plus a QB other than Hill) and I'm happy.
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Post by greenwave on Jan 30, 2015 9:48:28 GMT -5
Am I the only one that doesn't want Spiller? The guy has had issues holding on to the ball -- 7 fumbles over the last two seasons. RB is a young man's position -- and there is a lot of depth in the draft. Lets get a young cheap RB in the draft -- Duke Johnson, David Johnson, Jay Ajayi, David Cobb, etc. I think there are better ways to spend free agent money (OL, CB, S, LB). This gets said every year about the RB position in the draft...meanwhile the Jets haven't drafted a legitimate starter at the position since Freeman McNeil (unless you count Murrell and Leon, which I don't). That's over 30 years, though I'll admit I loved Leon as a backup. They might finally end that drought this year...or they could get a known commodity in Spiller who has experience in the offense, has little wear, and would not be coming in to be a starter.
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Post by sec.101row23 on Jan 30, 2015 10:15:50 GMT -5
Am I the only one that doesn't want Spiller? The guy has had issues holding on to the ball -- 7 fumbles over the last two seasons. RB is a young man's position -- and there is a lot of depth in the draft. Lets get a young cheap RB in the draft -- Duke Johnson, David Johnson, Jay Ajayi, David Cobb, etc. I think there are better ways to spend free agent money (OL, CB, S, LB). I love CJ as much as anyone but I totally agree with you that RB MUST be addressed in the draft, especially this year. Obviously IF you can get Spiller for 3M per year you do it, but I think he gets more than that. IMO you should always be drafting RBs, draft them, use them up and draft some more. Corner, O line, back up TE, safety, ILB all need to be addressed in FA.
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Post by sec.101row23 on Jan 30, 2015 10:17:28 GMT -5
Am I the only one that doesn't want Spiller? The guy has had issues holding on to the ball -- 7 fumbles over the last two seasons. RB is a young man's position -- and there is a lot of depth in the draft. Lets get a young cheap RB in the draft -- Duke Johnson, David Johnson, Jay Ajayi, David Cobb, etc. I think there are better ways to spend free agent money (OL, CB, S, LB). This gets said every year about the RB position in the draft...meanwhile the Jets haven't drafted a legitimate starter at the position since Freeman McNeil (unless you count Murrell and Leon, which I don't). That's over 30 years, though I'll admit I loved Leon as a backup. They might finally end that drought this year...or they could get a known commodity in Spiller who has experience in the offense, has little wear, and would not be coming in to be a starter. Very true, the Jets have essentially ignored the offensive skill positions in the first 3 rounds of the draft, especially since Bradway was GM and then Director of College Scouting.
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Post by Lithfan on Jan 30, 2015 10:18:07 GMT -5
Am I the only one that doesn't want Spiller? The guy has had issues holding on to the ball -- 7 fumbles over the last two seasons. RB is a young man's position -- and there is a lot of depth in the draft. Lets get a young cheap RB in the draft -- Duke Johnson, David Johnson, Jay Ajayi, David Cobb, etc. I think there are better ways to spend free agent money (OL, CB, S, LB). This gets said every year about the RB position in the draft...meanwhile the Jets haven't drafted a legitimate starter at the position since Freeman McNeil (unless you count Murrell and Leon, which I don't). That's over 30 years, though I'll admit I loved Leon as a backup. They might finally end that drought this year...or they could get a known commodity in Spiller who has experience in the offense, has little wear, and would not be coming in to be a starter. I get the Spiller-Gailey connection, and he has shown flashes of brilliance during his career. But he also has had a history of putting the ball on the ground, which is something that we have seen way too much of over the last few years. I will not be surprised if we sign him, and the upside is big, but so is the downside.
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Post by vicmill on Jan 30, 2015 11:15:56 GMT -5
Am I the only one that doesn't want Spiller? The guy has had issues holding on to the ball -- 7 fumbles over the last two seasons. RB is a young man's position -- and there is a lot of depth in the draft. Lets get a young cheap RB in the draft -- Duke Johnson, David Johnson, Jay Ajayi, David Cobb, etc. I think there are better ways to spend free agent money (OL, CB, S, LB). This gets said every year about the RB position in the draft...meanwhile the Jets haven't drafted a legitimate starter at the position since Freeman McNeil (unless you count Murrell and Leon, which I don't). That's over 30 years, though I'll admit I loved Leon as a backup. They might finally end that drought this year...or they could get a known commodity in Spiller who has experience in the offense, has little wear, and would not be coming in to be a starter. They haven't but so what? Its pretty easy to find a Chris Ivory or CJ Spiller in Free Agency or through a cheap trade. Unless you are going to find an elite back in the draft like Adrian Peterson, its not worth a high draft pick. Build the oline and then put any decnet RB back there and you are fine. When the last non-JAG the Flats* had at running back? I'd sign Spiller, but only for cheap, short money. If not move onto the next guy.
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Post by greenwave on Jan 30, 2015 11:32:42 GMT -5
This gets said every year about the RB position in the draft...meanwhile the Jets haven't drafted a legitimate starter at the position since Freeman McNeil (unless you count Murrell and Leon, which I don't). That's over 30 years, though I'll admit I loved Leon as a backup. They might finally end that drought this year...or they could get a known commodity in Spiller who has experience in the offense, has little wear, and would not be coming in to be a starter. I'd sign Spiller, but only for cheap, short money. If not move onto the next guy. They haven't but so what? Its pretty easy to find a Chris Ivory or CJ Spiller in Free Agency or through a cheap trade. Unless you are going to find an elite back in the draft like Adrian Peterson, its not worth a high draft pick. Build the oline and then put any decnet RB back there and you are fine. When the last non-JAG the Flats* had at running back? Right, but that's pretty much my point. Go with a known product like Spiller to team with Ivory, and if you want to take a shot on an RB with a late rounder go for it. Spiller fits. He does come with injury / fumble-prone tags, but he also comes with game-breaking ability and most likely a reasonable price tag.
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Post by greengeek on Jan 31, 2015 19:00:57 GMT -5
Am I the only one that doesn't want Spiller? The guy has had issues holding on to the ball -- 7 fumbles over the last two seasons. RB is a young man's position -- and there is a lot of depth in the draft. Lets get a young cheap RB in the draft -- Duke Johnson, David Johnson, Jay Ajayi, David Cobb, etc. I think there are better ways to spend free agent money (OL, CB, S, LB). Fumbles won't matter. Next year balls will be legal down to 10.5 psi (Flats declared ahead of the times instead of cheaters) because the fans like the Patriot Way. Everyone's fumble rate will plummet and Spiller becomes a top FA.
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Post by Sonny Werblin on Feb 1, 2015 9:57:56 GMT -5
I want us to invest heavily in that o-line, Mac daddy has no allegiance to Winters, Aboushi or Giacomini. I would go after two top guards or kick Breno inside and go after a top Guard and a RT like Bulaga. Yeah I figured I'd pick 2 solid guards. But flipping Breno inside is also a very good idea. Contrary to how it might appear, the move from OT to G is more difficult than the opposite. OT is all about Physical tools and ability (length and quickness). OT talent do not always translate to G, where strength is a premium and their are lots of different responsibilities other than blocking the guy in front of you. Breni would have to learn to pull and the blocking assignments on other runs are very different than OT. How often do you think an OT releases to block a LB?
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Post by Sonny Werblin on Feb 1, 2015 10:05:21 GMT -5
Free agent signings should be on the D side of the ball (CB FS OLB) and O line (G maybe even 2 preferably younger than 28). The draft needs to be top heavy at O skill positions. 2 of the first 3 picks should be RB and WR with the other pick being the BPA especially in the first round where the jets would be better off trading down than reaching for a WR or RB.
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Post by heymangold on Feb 1, 2015 19:17:32 GMT -5
i'd love to see Cobb and Spiller brought in. would make for a real dynamic with those 2 speedy guys.
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Post by rvajet815 on Feb 2, 2015 6:13:56 GMT -5
Free agent signings should be on the D side of the ball (CB FS OLB) and O line (G maybe even 2 preferably younger than 28). The draft needs to be top heavy at O skill positions. 2 of the first 3 picks should be RB and WR with the other pick being the BPA especially in the first round where the jets would be better off trading down than reaching for a WR or RB. Agree. Ideally, I'd like to see TWO CB's and a FS signed along with a G (Iupati in a perfect world).
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Post by rangerous on Feb 2, 2015 16:13:44 GMT -5
Yeah I figured I'd pick 2 solid guards. But flipping Breno inside is also a very good idea. Contrary to how it might appear, the move from OT to G is more difficult than the opposite. OT is all about Physical tools and ability (length and quickness). OT talent do not always translate to G, where strength is a premium and their are lots of different responsibilities other than blocking the guy in front of you. Breni would have to learn to pull and the blocking assignments on other runs are very different than OT. How often do you think an OT releases to block a LB? here's the thing though. the patsies just won a superbowl with the likes of nate solder and seb vollmer at tackle plus a friggin rookie center. they were able to hold off the vaunted seattle pass rush the whole game. when it counted, in the second half, brady was virtually untouched. why did dugliermo get canned? because tanny wanted to play ducasse? the point is lot's of teams do pretty well without having outstanding players at places like the oline. it's all about coaching and then more coaching.
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