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Post by monsterxman on Dec 5, 2014 8:28:07 GMT -5
GM - Eric Mangini Head Coach/OC - Chad Pennington DC - Rex Ryan Qb Coach - Ken O'brian QB - Mark Sanchez Clock Management - Dick Curl Motivational/Half Time Speaker - Herm Edwards w/Rex Key FA Signings - Sanchez, Revis, Cromartie... Bart Scott
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Post by Harrier on Dec 5, 2014 8:35:50 GMT -5
GM - Eric Mangini Head Coach/OC - Chad Pennington DC - Rex Ryan Qb Coach - Ken O'brian QB - Mark Sanchez Clock Management - Dick Curl Motivational/Half Time Speaker - Herm Edwards w/Rex Key FA Signings - Sanchez, Revis, Cromartie... Bart Scott Where's braylon job?
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Post by Bavarian on Dec 7, 2014 11:29:59 GMT -5
More than likely Idzik stays, Hue Jackson intrigues me. Got a hunch it's gonna be someone from Seattle. Don't want anyone from Seattle. I'm gonna be pissed if we keep Idzik and he brings in Quinn(or even worse Bevell) BLOW IT UP WOODY! DO THE RIGHT THING FOR A CHANGE! Why is that? Isn't this Jets time modeled after the Seahawks? Oh, well.
I'd be okay with Quinn but think Harbaugh is the best fit for this team.
I can't judge available GM's but if Woody didn't learn anything from last time, it will likely be another mistake. I like the OP's selection of the assistant from Baltimore as that team has been run as well as any from top to bottom.
As for QB, I'm surprised to find I'm in the huge minority but no way does Mariota even sniff Winston's jock strap by comparison. It isn't even close. Mariota is G-NopeII - a guy who runs an exotic college offense and passes to wide open WR's with the running game handcuffing the safeties. Some may argue he's more accurate. G-Nope went 42/6 in TD/INT ratio and he didn't have nearly that juggernaut running game which opens everything up like it were HS. Watch how he does against Alabama when they shut down that run. Mariota doesn't even execute under center - he's going to have the same learning curve as G-Nope did with fundamentals taught on 3,5 and 7 step drops and reading defenses. You guys have no idea what you're in for with that guy. Winston is far superior at this stage having run a pro-style offense effectively and will develop much faster. I'm amazed how many think Mariota is the answer. But we'll see next year.
BTW, there's no indication that Cook is coming out.
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Post by Bavarian on Dec 7, 2014 11:37:49 GMT -5
Would love to pry DeCosta but i think he's primed for Ozzie's seat when he's ready to retire. I'd settle on Brian Xanders GM - I want a history of a consistent contender and a record of drafting well,which he did while in Denver,and there's rumors he's doing the same, and not GM Mayhew, in Detroit. Frank Reich HC This begins the Mike McCoy coaching tree. Jason Campbell QB Sign for a year and for nothing. Draft a QB - maybe a Cook, Grayson or Wallace late but i'd like Amari Cooper at #5 if we miss out on the Duck. How long will he wait for that moment? Ozzie is 58. Why would he wait around when other GM positions are opening up? That could be 10 years. Minimum. 58 isn't as old as it used to be. I don't see this as a valid reason but that's just me. One thing this job has going for it is an owner who doesn't mind spending and cap room is available. There's a decent nucleus of young talent. And you get a free pass for a few years when developing a new QB. Plus, you'd get to select your own coaching staff because this one's getting cleared out in NY. Big market for attracting free agents. And the owner has to stick with you once he gets hammered for firing the last one after two years.
But I hear you. A proven GM who's a football guy first. Woody needs someone to run football operations on his behalf in a big way.
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Post by eaglenj on Dec 8, 2014 9:22:29 GMT -5
GM - Brian Gaines: Currently director of pro personnel for Texans after being the assistant GM for the Dolphins (also started his career with the Jets
HC - Pep Hamilton: He is a former QB, worked under some exceptional HCs, young enough to hopefully relate to a young QB
QB: Winston: College stats are almost impossible to use to predict success in the pros (look at Geno). Winston does all the things that a pro-QB must do that cant be quantified. Yes he has some ints, but he keeps his eyes downfield when moving in the pocket, works through his progressions, can read a defense, and is very tough to tackle in the pocket. His off the field stuff is a concern, but pairing him with someone like Pep Hamilton should hopefully help speed up his maturation as a person and player.
Where we will find a Defensive Coordinator is a different story, although Mike Nolan from Atlanta could be an interesting option if that staff is fired.
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Post by carlito1171 on Dec 8, 2014 10:21:22 GMT -5
GM - Brian Gaines: Currently director of pro personnel for Texans after being the assistant GM for the Dolphins (also started his career with the Jets HC - Pep Hamilton: He is a former QB, worked under some exceptional HCs, young enough to hopefully relate to a young QB QB: Winston: College stats are almost impossible to use to predict success in the pros (look at G-Nope). Winston does all the things that a pro-QB must do that cant be quantified. Yes he has some ints, but he keeps his eyes downfield when moving in the pocket, works through his progressions, can read a defense, and is very tough to tackle in the pocket. His off the field stuff is a concern, but pairing him with someone like Pep Hamilton should hopefully help speed up his maturation as a person and player. Where we will find a Defensive Coordinator is a different story, although Mike Nolan from Atlanta could be an interesting option if that staff is fired.Pass. ATL's D has not improved since he's been there. Hopefully the new HC could poach someone worthy enough from his current staff.....
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Post by Harrier on Dec 8, 2014 10:24:47 GMT -5
GM - Brian Gaines: Currently director of pro personnel for Texans after being the assistant GM for the Dolphins (also started his career with the Jets HC - Pep Hamilton: He is a former QB, worked under some exceptional HCs, young enough to hopefully relate to a young QB QB: Winston: College stats are almost impossible to use to predict success in the pros (look at G-Nope). Winston does all the things that a pro-QB must do that cant be quantified. Yes he has some ints, but he keeps his eyes downfield when moving in the pocket, works through his progressions, can read a defense, and is very tough to tackle in the pocket. His off the field stuff is a concern, but pairing him with someone like Pep Hamilton should hopefully help speed up his maturation as a person and player. Where we will find a Defensive Coordinator is a different story, although Mike Nolan from Atlanta could be an interesting option if that staff is fired. What about Greg schiano as DC? NJ aggressive guy.
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Post by carlito1171 on Dec 8, 2014 10:24:58 GMT -5
Another thing we are overlooking.
Woody is inept in football. We know that. We need to hire a VP of Football operations to change the culture of this team. I think Team president Neil Glat has his hands in the football aspect of the organization, and he doesn't know shit about football either. Woody needs to fire him, or reassign him to business only and hire a real VP to tell Glat to mind his business....
Polian and Holmgren are the only two I can think of that would fit this role, and they would hire their own GM. Anyone have any other ideas?
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Post by patman on Dec 8, 2014 10:35:38 GMT -5
Another thing we are overlooking. Woody is inept in football. We know that. We need to hire a VP of Football operations to change the culture of this team. I think Team president Neil Glat has his hands in the football aspect of the organization, and he doesn't know shit about football either. Woody needs to fire him, or reassign him to business only and hire a real VP to tell Glat to mind his business.... Polian and Holmgren are the only two I can think of that would fit this role, and they would hire their own GM. Anyone have any other ideas? Marty is better than both.
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Post by Harrier on Dec 8, 2014 10:44:14 GMT -5
Norv turner may get another shot at being a HC, just throwing some names out here.
I want a proven offensive guy who has been a HC already, lots of college guys I like but I'm sick of giving people their 1st crack at the job....
Bradway Tanny Mangini Rex Idzik
All got their 1st shot from woody. Go get Mariota and a proven offensive HC, even Hue Jackson intrigues me.
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Post by BEAC0NJET on Dec 8, 2014 10:50:18 GMT -5
GM - Brian Gaines: Currently director of pro personnel for Texans after being the assistant GM for the Dolphins (also started his career with the Jets HC - Pep Hamilton: He is a former QB, worked under some exceptional HCs, young enough to hopefully relate to a young QB QB: Winston: College stats are almost impossible to use to predict success in the pros (look at G-Nope). Winston does all the things that a pro-QB must do that cant be quantified. Yes he has some ints, but he keeps his eyes downfield when moving in the pocket, works through his progressions, can read a defense, and is very tough to tackle in the pocket. His off the field stuff is a concern, but pairing him with someone like Pep Hamilton should hopefully help speed up his maturation as a person and player. Where we will find a Defensive Coordinator is a different story, although Mike Nolan from Atlanta could be an interesting option if that staff is fired. What about Greg schiano as DC? NJ aggressive guy. How about Todd Bowles, the Arizona Cardinals DC?
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Post by Harrier on Dec 8, 2014 10:52:34 GMT -5
What about Greg schiano as DC? NJ aggressive guy. How about Todd Bowles, the Arizona Cardinals DC? You mean as HC? Not sure I want another defensive guy, especially if we take a a QB in this draft.
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Post by Bavarian on Dec 8, 2014 14:55:01 GMT -5
GM - Brian Gaines: Currently director of pro personnel for Texans after being the assistant GM for the Dolphins (also started his career with the Jets HC - Pep Hamilton: He is a former QB, worked under some exceptional HCs, young enough to hopefully relate to a young QB QB: Winston: College stats are almost impossible to use to predict success in the pros (look at G-Nope). Winston does all the things that a pro-QB must do that cant be quantified. Yes he has some ints, but he keeps his eyes downfield when moving in the pocket, works through his progressions, can read a defense, and is very tough to tackle in the pocket. His off the field stuff is a concern, but pairing him with someone like Pep Hamilton should hopefully help speed up his maturation as a person and player. Where we will find a Defensive Coordinator is a different story, although Mike Nolan from Atlanta could be an interesting option if that staff is fired. Good post. I guess we didn't include DCoord into the discussion and hadn't given it thought. Prefer a 3-4 guy but not sure about Nolan. How about Rob Ryan? Just kidding. I think the Jets are the last team he hasn't coached as DC.
Pep Hamilton has been floated out there a lot. He'd be a great choice for a new QB.
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Post by jetswin on Dec 8, 2014 15:07:28 GMT -5
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Post by joepnyj1 on Dec 8, 2014 15:20:23 GMT -5
Interested to see what you guys say... I'm going with: GM: Eric DeCosta - asst GM Ravens... Regional scout who worked his way up. Don't know how he isn't a GM already. HC: Harbaugh - why not? And it doesn't hurt that the new GM has connections to the Harbaughs QB: Mariota/Winston and Locker competition. Like Mariota better, but not against Winston coming here either. Like Locker in Harbaugh's system even though he cant stay on the field. Could be serviceable if he stays healthy as a system fit like Sanchez is now with Chip Kelly. I'd like to hear your opinions about who you'd like to see here. GM: Nick Caserio- Director of player personnel NE Patriots- Would love to rub it in their faces! Heard this guy is very intense and loves the game! HC: Kyle Shannahan- I am sure I will get lots of flack for this one, but I really like him, he is an offensive type coach, he is innovative and for someone that is so young has been coaching a long time. QB: Winston- Yeah I know....headache! But lets face it this guy has an enormous ceiling with his talent. Forget his current struggles, give him the weapons he needs and look out! I would like to get a 1 year vet in here too like Kyle Orton or Fitzpatrick to start the year then by next year or towards the end of the season have Winston take over.
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