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Post by PK on May 7, 2015 8:34:43 GMT -5
We expanded the downstairs shower; the tiles can't take the punishment, and the plywood is rotting. Is there a solution that would let me have a solid floor there? (besides ripping out & re-do the plywood every 4 years) Hopefully you have 3/4" plywood. Screw down 1/4" cement board on top of that. Screw it down every 6" oc. Then make sure your shower basin is properly flashed and sealed and watertight. No water, no rot. Or just put in fiberglass.,
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Post by leftturn3 on May 7, 2015 18:14:45 GMT -5
We expanded the downstairs shower; the tiles can't take the punishment, and the plywood is rotting. Is there a solution that would let me have a solid floor there? (besides ripping out & re-do the plywood every 4 years) Hopefully you have 3/4" plywood. Screw down 1/4" cement board on top of that. Screw it down every 6" oc. Then make sure your shower basin is properly flashed and sealed and watertight. No water, no rot. Big L, please don't tell me you have wood under tile "in" the shower, we are talking about just outside the shower, correct? I have this problem starting to develop in my master upstairs shower right outside the fiberglass shower pan, it does not help that water pools from the shower door right in that spot. House was built in 94 so I consider myself lucky, but it is going and I need to make sure I do right, if I get another 20 years I will be happy. I also am looking to expand mine to a not so normal shape, that means no shower pan, which opens me up to problems if not done correct. I am thinking of sealing the whole floor, 3/4 marine grade plywood with cement board on top and then seal the whole thing with Schluter-KERDI, it is a pliable sheet-applied polyethylene waterproofing membrane, you can virtually seal from top to bottom. Go to the Schluter website and they have complete tutorials and kits. I tend to overdue shit.
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Post by Big L on May 7, 2015 18:23:44 GMT -5
Hopefully you have 3/4" plywood. Screw down 1/4" cement board on top of that. Screw it down every 6" oc. Then make sure your shower basin is properly flashed and sealed and watertight. No water, no rot. Big L, please don't tell me you have wood under tile "in" the shower, we are talking about just outside the shower, correct? I have this problem starting to develop in my master upstairs shower right outside the fiberglass shower pan, it does not help that water pools from the shower door right in that spot. House was built in 94 so I consider myself lucky, but it is going and I need to make sure I do right, if I get another 20 years I will be happy. I also am looking to expand mine to a not so normal shape, that means no shower pan, which opens me up to problems if not done correct. I am thinking of sealing the whole floor, 3/4 marine grade plywood with cement board on top and then seal the whole thing with Schluter-KERDI, it is a pliable sheet-applied polyethylene waterproofing membrane, you can virtually seal from top to bottom. Go to the Schluter website and they have complete tutorials and kits. I tend to overdue shit. No sir, no shower tile on wood in my house. Not sure the exact situation WCO has, though. Sounds like there's shower tile on wood floor. Im not remodeling my bathroom, but I'm going to take a look at schluter. Sounds like a good product. The more you know....
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2015 18:24:30 GMT -5
if i put 11 3/4 but slim it will the area still conform to code? doing it tonight need to know kind of quick
ps thanks op for starting this helpful thread
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Post by Big L on May 7, 2015 18:24:34 GMT -5
BTW, if anyone wants to get ideas on how most things should be done right, watch Holmes on Homes..
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Post by Big L on May 7, 2015 18:25:26 GMT -5
if i put 11 3/4 but slim it will the area still conform to code? doing it tonight need to know kind of quick ps thanks op for starting this helpful thread Do you have a generator on hand?
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Post by Gunnails on May 7, 2015 20:11:17 GMT -5
Some times it's best to let a professional do some of the work. I have done a few mud set shower pans for family, lets just say it's a good thing I did not charge them, no leaks and the tile is solid just the pan is way to thick and uneven, but it drains.
When my daughter needed a custom size shower I had a tile guy come out and do the pan, then we did all the wonderboard and tile, turned out puss nice.
My suggestion when doing tile, use the urethane or epoxy grout, these grouts are very stain resistant, flexible, and water proof, so no need for a Schluter type of membrane. Trust me on this, it's harder to apply, and 5 times as expensive, but the bomb for long term. Marine ply might be ok for a ranch style rental house, but if water is getting to the plywood of your upstairs home bath, then you have a problem.
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Post by Deleted on May 7, 2015 23:56:35 GMT -5
I'm cracking up wondering what shakin is going on about (electrical or h20); Gary is killing it; boom boom I wannna make my shower puss nice.
I have no idea what that is; but I hopes it mean that women rub themselves when they see it.
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Post by leftturn3 on May 8, 2015 6:01:26 GMT -5
Big L, please don't tell me you have wood under tile "in" the shower, we are talking about just outside the shower, correct? I have this problem starting to develop in my master upstairs shower right outside the fiberglass shower pan, it does not help that water pools from the shower door right in that spot. House was built in 94 so I consider myself lucky, but it is going and I need to make sure I do right, if I get another 20 years I will be happy. I also am looking to expand mine to a not so normal shape, that means no shower pan, which opens me up to problems if not done correct. I am thinking of sealing the whole floor, 3/4 marine grade plywood with cement board on top and then seal the whole thing with Schluter-KERDI, it is a pliable sheet-applied polyethylene waterproofing membrane, you can virtually seal from top to bottom. Go to the Schluter website and they have complete tutorials and kits. I tend to overdue shit. No sir, no shower tile on wood in my house. Not sure the exact situation WCO has, though. Sounds like there's shower tile on wood floor. Im not remodeling my bathroom, but I'm going to take a look at schluter. Sounds like a good product. The more you know.... I meant WCO, not you Big L, sorry about that.
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Post by leftturn3 on May 8, 2015 6:14:56 GMT -5
Some times it's best to let a professional do some of the work. I have done a few mud set shower pans for family, lets just say it's a good thing I did not charge them, no leaks and the tile is solid just the pan is way to thick and uneven, but it drains. When my daughter needed a custom size shower I had a tile guy come out and do the pan, then we did all the wonderboard and tile, turned out puss nice. My suggestion when doing tile, use the urethane or epoxy grout, these grouts are very stain resistant, flexible, and water proof, so no need for a Schluter type of membrane. Trust me on this, it's harder to apply, and 5 times as expensive, but the bomb for long term. Marine ply might be ok for a ranch style rental house, but if water is getting to the plywood of your upstairs home bath, then you have a problem. Your right, there is a problem, over 20yrs of a fucking shower door dripping water onto the floor. Like I said, I have to consider myself lucky, long time in Florida, especially the way stuff is thrown together here. Bottom line, you are right, water should not leak, but why not use the best. No matter how good you are, the work will almost always break down over time, going with the best prolongs that. I have done 12-15 bathrooms, and yes, I did form one shower pan myself, and even though I am completely confident in doing the basins, I do bring in a pro, it is cheaper to pay someone to do it in a quarter the time and have it perfect. I seal them bitches up, top to bottom. Someone mentioned The show Holmes, don't just go to code, do it right!
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2015 14:50:16 GMT -5
Big L, please don't tell me you have wood under tile "in" the shower, we are talking about just outside the shower, correct? I have this problem starting to develop in my master upstairs shower right outside the fiberglass shower pan, it does not help that water pools from the shower door right in that spot. House was built in 94 so I consider myself lucky, but it is going and I need to make sure I do right, if I get another 20 years I will be happy. I also am looking to expand mine to a not so normal shape, that means no shower pan, which opens me up to problems if not done correct. I am thinking of sealing the whole floor, 3/4 marine grade plywood with cement board on top and then seal the whole thing with Schluter-KERDI, it is a pliable sheet-applied polyethylene waterproofing membrane, you can virtually seal from top to bottom. Go to the Schluter website and they have complete tutorials and kits. I tend to overdue shit. No sir, no shower tile on wood in my house. Not sure the exact situation WCO has, though. Sounds like there's shower tile on wood floor. Im not remodeling my bathroom, but I'm going to take a look at schluter. Sounds like a good product. The more you know.... Great job, Detective. common, boys, let's get some flooring.
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Post by Deleted on May 8, 2015 19:42:38 GMT -5
well it broke and made a mess and now the town wants to fine me, i knew i shouldn't slim it behind the lintel. thanks for nothing
not everything is a joke you dicks
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Post by PK on May 8, 2015 20:13:03 GMT -5
This thread is funny.
Don't take advice from these guys. I get paid to make showers not leak.
Let me count the callbacks.
Oh yeah. None. :-)
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Post by Big L on May 8, 2015 20:13:15 GMT -5
well it broke and made a mess and now the town wants to fine me, i knew i shouldn't slim it behind the lintel. thanks for nothing not everything is a joke you dicks Did you try tapping in to your neighbors line?
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Post by PK on May 8, 2015 20:53:35 GMT -5
well it broke and made a mess and now the town wants to fine me, i knew i shouldn't slim it behind the lintel. thanks for nothing not everything is a joke you dicks Did you try tapping in to your neighbors line? Lmao. Right.
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