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Post by jets19 on Mar 6, 2015 17:34:32 GMT -5
We could keep him with that cap number. Half of the league pays their QB 14mill and over, we do not.we have no money in are TE and very little on RB.
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Post by sec.101row23 on Mar 6, 2015 17:34:28 GMT -5
Fuckin stupid if true, if you're goin to cut him you do it march 8th after big money has been laid out and the WR market had bottomed out, making his leverage hit rock bottom. What leverage is hitting rock bottom? Maybe Maccagnan just doesn't want Harvin on the team.
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Post by jets19 on Mar 6, 2015 17:36:03 GMT -5
Nothing to gain for the Jets to cut him until right before the 19th.stop with this re working he's contract. Restructuring does nothing except benefit Harvin. Why lock us into him? We can keep this dog on a short leash have all the power 2 cut him with no penalty when we want.were gonna give that up for mill of cap savings??? For a team that doesn't need it.he's not signing here for 8 mill not gonna happen. What power are you talking about? The ultimate power CONTROL.
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Post by JetBidi on Mar 6, 2015 17:36:44 GMT -5
Fuckin stupid if true, if you're goin to cut him you do it march 8th after big money has been laid out and the WR market had bottomed out, making his leverage hit rock bottom. I assuming you meant 18th? Waiting till the 8th would do nothing. Also, hanging on to him does nothing. Word is out that Harvin won't restructure. He was an inevitable release. Other teams know it and would've budgeted for that. Either way, we were never going to keep him on his current deal, so why draw out the inevitable.
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Post by greengeek on Mar 6, 2015 17:36:53 GMT -5
Except you wouldn't really be fucking Harvin by keeping until the 19th. Teams knew the Jets were going to release him so they would have allocated cap space for him anyway. It's not like they could have held onto him until July. I don't know about that. You're telling me that 3, 4, maybe 5 teams reserve money for Harvin and let other free agent WRs go by as they wait 10 days? What do the teams who don't get him do at that point? They sit around like a bunch of Idziks.Best Idzik reference ever! Rep given...
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Post by sec.101row23 on Mar 6, 2015 17:37:14 GMT -5
What power are you talking about? The ultimate power CONTROL. Control over what exactly?
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Post by jets19 on Mar 6, 2015 17:41:40 GMT -5
The ultimate power CONTROL. Control over what exactly? The situation. How long is this bit? My phone battery needs charging
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Post by sec.101row23 on Mar 6, 2015 17:47:10 GMT -5
Control over what exactly? The situation. How long is this bit? My phone battery needs charging Not sure, you really aren't making a point here, just rambling about control and power. So you just want Maccagnan to hold onto Harvin until the last minute to fuck with him?
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Post by Jet Nut Sauce on Mar 6, 2015 17:49:07 GMT -5
Control over what exactly? The situation. How long is this bit? My phone battery needs charging Given everyone knew he was going to be cut when he refused to redo his deal, and maybe even if he was willing, what imaginary power would the Jets have? especially after trading ding for a real WR
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Post by sec.101row23 on Mar 6, 2015 17:51:49 GMT -5
The situation. How long is this bit? My phone battery needs charging Given everyone knew he was going to be cut when he refused to redo his deal, and maybe even if he was willing, what imaginary power would the Jets have? especially after trading ding for a real WR True, plus maybe, just maybe Maccagnan didn't even want Harvin, even if he restructured.
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Post by Jet Nut Sauce on Mar 6, 2015 17:56:48 GMT -5
Given everyone knew he was going to be cut when he refused to redo his deal, and maybe even if he was willing, what imaginary power would the Jets have? especially after trading ding for a real WR True, plus maybe, just maybe Maccagnan didn't even want Harvin, even if he restructured. I said the same thing. Why do people always assume we want every one of these players , that the players run the show and mgt has to bend over for them?
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Post by rangerous on Mar 6, 2015 18:12:04 GMT -5
imo the big question is how good will marshall be? he had some really good seasons at denver and chicago but he also has some head issues. he's older than harvin and maybe not as versatile. plus now the jets are out a 5th and a 6th round draft pick for marshall.
we'll see. he's an upgrade in that he gives them a true deep threat but geno still stinks and probably won't be able to get him the ball.
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Post by The Tax Returns Are in Kenya on Mar 6, 2015 18:17:27 GMT -5
imo the big question is how good will marshall be? he had some really good seasons at denver and chicago but he also has some head issues. he's older than harvin and maybe not as versatile. plus now the jets are out a 5th and a 6th round draft pick for marshall. we'll see. he's an upgrade in that he gives them a true deep threat but geno still stinks and probably won't be able to get him the ball. the trade for Harvin was a mistake IMO. I don't think they shouldn't give up another pick for a better player because the previous management made a desperate bonehead move. Plus, I think they are going to trade down or otherwise somehow recoup the picks.
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Post by jets19 on Mar 6, 2015 19:55:29 GMT -5
The situation. How long is this bit? My phone battery needs charging Not sure, you really aren't making a point here, just rambling about control and power. So you just want Maccagnan to hold onto Harvin until the last minute to fuck with him? Maybe I should put it in a riddle or perhaps a children's book with bright colorful illustrations Rambling about power and control??? Perhaps your dyslexic. I'll try to type really slow.Sorry (w/sugar on top) if you don't see or get the point, that if you redid he's deal (Multi year deal with guarantee money) and had to cut him there's dead money on the cap the following year.If you wanted to keep him keep him as is , so you could cut him at year end with no plenty.(reasons to cut locker room cancer,injury,production) I want him 2 hold on to him 2 fuck with him ?? I would hold on to him till we had to get rid of him. No gain in letting him go now. A team could give you a late round pick perhaps, ( We thought Marshall was going to get cut & look what happened.) just cause a player gets cut doesn't mean that the team trying to get him will get him. Other teams will be competing for the player.if over a week a free agency passes and a team whiffed on everything with plenty of Room, yes someone Could trade a late round pick six or seven rd) 4 Percy. sorry if that's progressive thinking for you ,but nothing is nothing if you cut him you would have nothing at least if you kept him for a little bit longer there's a chance 2 possibly get something.
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Post by sec.101row23 on Mar 6, 2015 20:15:07 GMT -5
Not sure, you really aren't making a point here, just rambling about control and power. So you just want Maccagnan to hold onto Harvin until the last minute to fuck with him? Maybe I should put it in a riddle or perhaps a children's book with bright colorful illustrations Rambling about power and control??? Perhaps your dyslexic. I'll try to type really slow.Sorry (w/sugar on top) if you don't see or get the point, that if you redid he's deal (Multi year deal with guarantee money) and had to cut him there's dead money on the cap the following year.If you wanted to keep him keep him as is , so you could cut him at year end with no plenty.(reasons to cut locker room cancer,injury,production) I want him 2 hold on to him 2 fuck with him ?? I would hold on to him till we had to get rid of him. No gain in letting him go now. A team could give you a late round pick perhaps, ( We thought Marshall was going to get cut & look what happened.) just cause a player gets cut doesn't mean that the team trying to get him will get him. Other teams will be competing for the player.if over a week a free agency passes and a team whiffed on everything with plenty of Room, yes someone Could trade a late round pick six or seven rd) 4 Percy. sorry if that's progressive thinking for you ,but nothing is nothing if you cut him you would have nothing at least if you kept him for a little bit longer there's a chance 2 possibly get something. Nothing you said means shit if Maccagnan doesn't want Harvin at all, even if restructured. You don't think he has explored trade options yet? Again, your ranting about cutting a player a week earlier than you have to. It's meaningless.
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