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Post by Jetworks on Mar 14, 2015 13:12:45 GMT -5
Give Jets fans an improved team and anything less than 14-2 is unheard of. "Is it possible this is the best team turnaround of all time? I kinda just assumed it was a given. Because, you know, they weren't really 4-12. More like 8-8 cuz they messed up a couple times. I see the schedule with our new secondary and I see maybe 14 wins, maybe 13 if i'm an SOJF." The thread's about the Jets problems at QB. Bad enough you're a Patriots troll, but now you've become just a shitty internet troll that threadcraps as well; so, now you'll be treated accordingly.
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Post by rangerous on Mar 14, 2015 13:34:04 GMT -5
We say in basketball you can't teach hight, in track and field you can't teach speed and I say in life you can't teach instincts. I have stated before what makes Geno a poor QB is his instincts, the dumb mistakes. I think we all can agree that if Geno could eliminate the dumb mistakes he can be a good QB, he certainly has the talent. We have seen some very good QB's take a while to develope, but at the same time those guys had a spark and smarts, I don't know if there is very much smarts in Geno. Is it possible Geno can grow this year and finally get his shit together. Listen, QB's make mistakes and throw picks, but can he grow in a way where he "instinctively" starts making better decisions. If he starts to get the feel of the game I think he can be something good, I just don't know if his issues can be learned. To to add, there is no more coddling this year, maybe that is what he needs, someone to look him in the eyes and say, your fucking up, get your shit together or move on. very true. i just don't think genot has shown the maturity level needed to play qb. right now the jets made the right move by having a backup who will challenge him for the job. it's going to be put up or shut up time for genot. and if they draft mariota then genot better come with his a game every game. and one thing about genot's a game. he showed some flash when he got that perfect game rating but at the same time i don't think it was much more than the jets playing a really flat doltfin team. genot had some defensive help in that game. he will never be able to get away with the same level of play against another team that's come ready to play.
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Post by rangerous on Mar 14, 2015 13:37:22 GMT -5
If Geno is going to make it happen it would be this year.no more excuses.he will have enough weapons,solid running attack,stout D and more importantly a coach (Gailey ) that gets the most out of the QB. His completion percentage was almost 60% And was even in int-td 13-13 ( Buff game ? I know it still counts 3 picks) He actually improved a bit from rookie year.(needs to stop fucking fumbling the ball) www.nfl.com/player/genosmith/2539335/profile I hope he can be good (Who doesn't want to franchise quarterback to hang their hat on).it's such a huge advantage if you get one of these young quarterbacks at a wholesale price to have above average quarterback play. look at sea with Wilson (Get it not easy 2 find) if you could allocate that 15 million (half of what starting QB make in nfl) for other team needs extremely huge advantage. (this works for any other quarterback we could draft this year as well ?) hmmm, the jets had schttinheimer and morihnweg. both of those guys were alleged qb guru's and they failed with sanchez and genot. the last jet qb who had the fire was pennington. favre probably did too but he was pretty much playing out his career. you simply can't teach fire.
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Post by vicmill on Mar 14, 2015 14:04:48 GMT -5
I think to equate instincts to height and speed is a bad comparison. QBs develop better instincts with more experience and good coaching. Geno has minimal experience and so far has lacked good coaching. Hopefully this regime will provide the coaching he needs andmore experience and we'll be able to see if he can upgrade the mental part of the game. I know a bunch of you "professional coaches" have already determined that this 24 year old kid can never be an effective QB, despite his physical skills, but to me, the jury is still out. Good thing you guys weren't the decision makers for Drew Brees, Warren Moon, Steve Young, Vinnie Testaverde, Phil Simms, Tony Romo and many more great QBs who were as bad or worse than Geno in the first two years.
I have no idea if Geno is going to grasp the mental side of the game and become an above average QB, but I don't have the expertise nor the visibility to his off season work or in season practices to make that determination yet and neither do any of you.
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Post by MDL JET on Mar 14, 2015 14:26:28 GMT -5
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Post by leftturn3 on Mar 14, 2015 17:38:32 GMT -5
I didn't think it was possible, but we probably have the smartest and the dumbest QB's in the league on the same team. And they both suck. If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck it's a duck. Draft the fucking duck. I am not 100% sold on Mariota and I am not 100% sold on Geno not being able to be... or not to be... a serviceable NFL QB. But I am sold on the fact that we need a franchise QB. So if Mariota is available at #6, I think we have to take him. Then let Fitzpatrick & Geno battle it out for the starting position and let Mariota sit on the bench and learn. QB's that can come in and be good right away like Luck are few and far between. Look how many good QB's sat for a few years. But aI also think we are too quick to pull the plug on guys too. Geno has ability. Do I think he is going to be a franchise QB? I'm not sure but I lean toward no. So like Apache says... if he's there... draft the fucking duck. I agree 110%, you have to take Matiota, no doubt. I diD not start this with the thought that we don't take Mariota, we can't rely on what we have now, but what if, is the question. There is no doubt Mariota will sit a year, that gives us a chance to see, if Geno gets the start, Geno can wake up, if he does there will be something to say about Rex and his staff.
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Post by jett on Mar 14, 2015 22:08:56 GMT -5
If the Jets draft Mariota, they are going to win the Super Bowl this year. Guaranteed. I wish I had your confidence
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