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Post by eboozer32 on May 23, 2015 7:08:24 GMT -5
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Post by Lithfan on May 23, 2015 8:28:32 GMT -5
I have thought about the possibility of Milliner or McDougle starting on the PUP list. I don't know all of the eligibility rules, but I think that if they are able to participate in training camp, they are not eligible for PUP. Both of these guys could use a full training camp -- so I am hoping they are healthy enough for camp and don't end up on PUP. If one of them does start on PUP, I am not sure Miles is the guy who benefits -- more likely I could see a guy like Walls or Williams sticking. My guess is Miles is one of the PS guys. Will be interesting to see how some of these guys look in TC and pre-season -- pretty early to make roster projections right now.
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Post by bricktamland on May 23, 2015 8:55:50 GMT -5
Nicely done, except i don't get why we leave out dalton freeman after he has filled in nicely for Mangold in the past.
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Post by The Tax Returns Are in Kenya on May 23, 2015 11:50:29 GMT -5
Cumberland has gotten better each year although he's no superstar. I agree he was misused and part of that IMO was due to the problems at QB last year. Cumberland is the most ineffective TE in the NFL. He's been given five years and he sucks at catching the ball and is even worse as a blocker. I'll keep my fingers crossed that the new regime throws him to the trash heap and lets a a guy like Saxton make the roster over his below average jag ass. +1, I can't believe he's hung on as long as he has. He is a big body out there, nothing more, incapable of doing anything and with the athleticism of a tree
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Post by The Tax Returns Are in Kenya on May 23, 2015 11:52:02 GMT -5
I have thought about the possibility of Milliner or McDougle starting on the PUP list. I don't know all of the eligibility rules, but I think that if they are able to participate in training camp, they are not eligible for PUP. Both of these guys could use a full training camp -- so I am hoping they are healthy enough for camp and don't end up on PUP. If one of them does start on PUP, I am not sure Miles is the guy who benefits -- more likely I could see a guy like Walls or Williams sticking. My guess is Miles is one of the PS guys. Will be interesting to see how some of these guys look in TC and pre-season -- pretty early to make roster projections right now. Sounds like McDougle is ready and rarin' to go. Having had high hopes for him last year it will be cool to see him getting ready and hopefully show something
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Post by eboozer32 on May 23, 2015 11:55:40 GMT -5
I have thought about the possibility of Milliner or McDougle starting on the PUP list. I don't know all of the eligibility rules, but I think that if they are able to participate in training camp, they are not eligible for PUP. Both of these guys could use a full training camp -- so I am hoping they are healthy enough for camp and don't end up on PUP. If one of them does start on PUP, I am not sure Miles is the guy who benefits -- more likely I could see a guy like Walls or Williams sticking. My guess is Miles is one of the PS guys. Will be interesting to see how some of these guys look in TC and pre-season -- pretty early to make roster projections right now. I would prefer Miles stay on the 53 and Williams OR Walls do a season on the PS.
My reasoning is 2 fold.... he's a very good "gunner" on ST and I'm hoping he can take over for Gilchrist next season due to his cap hit and our need for cap flexibility next year with the new Wilkerson contract. I see Gilchrist leaving with Miles or the kid from Syracuse taking his place. Cro and his $8 mil should be leaving next year as well, so with Skrine, Revis and Milliner or McDougle taking over we don't need so many CB's. Hoping Jarrett gets beaten out by Allen.
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Post by Lithfan on May 23, 2015 20:29:35 GMT -5
I have thought about the possibility of Milliner or McDougle starting on the PUP list. I don't know all of the eligibility rules, but I think that if they are able to participate in training camp, they are not eligible for PUP. Both of these guys could use a full training camp -- so I am hoping they are healthy enough for camp and don't end up on PUP. If one of them does start on PUP, I am not sure Miles is the guy who benefits -- more likely I could see a guy like Walls or Williams sticking. My guess is Miles is one of the PS guys. Will be interesting to see how some of these guys look in TC and pre-season -- pretty early to make roster projections right now. I would prefer Miles stay on the 53 and Williams OR Walls do a season on the PS.
My reasoning is 2 fold.... he's a very good "gunner" on ST and I'm hoping he can take over for Gilchrist next season due to his cap hit and our need for cap flexibility next year with the new Wilkerson contract. I see Gilchrist leaving with Miles or the kid from Syracuse taking his place. Cro and his $8 mil should be leaving next year as well, so with Skrine, Revis and Milliner or McDougle taking over we don't need so many CB's. Hoping Jarrett gets beaten out by Allen.
Pretty sure Walls is no longer PS eligible. Even with the expanded PS rosters, I think that any player with more than 2 accrued seasons is not eligible and Walls has 3 (I think -- if I understand what constitutes an accrued season correctly. Williams would be PS eligible, but I am afraid he would be signed off the PS in a heartbeat. I guess it is a good problem to have -- too much talent in the secondary compared to last year when we had to sign guys off the street to start for us. Agree with you on Allen -- really hoping he can rebound now since he will not be playing out of position at CB. Thought he was developing really well until he was forced to play CB last year -- kind of became a lost season for him.
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Post by ryu79 on May 23, 2015 20:59:54 GMT -5
Bowles talking about Cumberland as a starter is concerning...what does he do in practice that makes these coaches so eager to give him another chance time after time?
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Post by Jet Nut Sauce on May 24, 2015 10:33:39 GMT -5
Bowles talking about Cumberland as a starter is concerning...what does he do in practice that makes these coaches so eager to give him another chance time after time? Bowles has never, ever coached a Jet practice. And when did he name anyone a starter at TE for the season?
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Post by Lithfan on May 24, 2015 10:42:30 GMT -5
Bowles talking about Cumberland as a starter is concerning...what does he do in practice that makes these coaches so eager to give him another chance time after time? Bowles has never, ever coached a Jet practice. And when did he name anyone a starter at TE for the season? He commented about the TE position at his presser after OTAs on Wednesday: thejetsblog.com/nyjets/what-geno-smith-todd-bowls-and-chan-gailey-said/
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Post by Jet Nut Sauce on May 24, 2015 11:02:11 GMT -5
Right, he said they'd use a lot of 2 TE sets. Who would think that when the play two TE sets Cumberland wouldn't play or that this should be disconcerting? Didn't say that they would play a single TE set and that it was Cumberland. Plus he said right now.
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Post by eboozer32 on May 24, 2015 14:43:31 GMT -5
I would prefer Miles stay on the 53 and Williams OR Walls do a season on the PS.
My reasoning is 2 fold.... he's a very good "gunner" on ST and I'm hoping he can take over for Gilchrist next season due to his cap hit and our need for cap flexibility next year with the new Wilkerson contract. I see Gilchrist leaving with Miles or the kid from Syracuse taking his place. Cro and his $8 mil should be leaving next year as well, so with Skrine, Revis and Milliner or McDougle taking over we don't need so many CB's. Hoping Jarrett gets beaten out by Allen.
Pretty sure Walls is no longer PS eligible. Even with the expanded PS rosters, I think that any player with more than 2 accrued seasons is not eligible and Walls has 3 (I think -- if I understand what constitutes an accrued season correctly. Williams would be PS eligible, but I am afraid he would be signed off the PS in a heartbeat. I guess it is a good problem to have -- too much talent in the secondary compared to last year when we had to sign guys off the street to start for us. Agree with you on Allen -- really hoping he can rebound now since he will not be playing out of position at CB. Thought he was developing really well until he was forced to play CB last year -- kind of became a lost season for him. Thanks for the info Lith... but I don't know how we can keep ALL these CB's??? Revis, Cro, Skrine, Milliner and McDougle make the squad.... you have 2 spots left for Walls, Williams. I'll be curious to see who backs up Skrine in the slot? Walls & Williams are more outside guys. At Safety we have Gilchrist, Jarrett, Allen, Pryor, Miles and Eskridge... definitely less talent at the S position.
Height: 6-0
Weight: 183
40: 4.45
Year: 5Sr
Darrin Walls
School: Notre Dame
Position: CB
Bio: Three-year starter who tallied 41/3/4 as a senior and 63/1/5 as a junior.
Positive: Big cornerback who's displayed the ability to shut down opponents throughout his college career. Jams opponents at the line of scrimmage, aggressive throughout the route, and fights hard to defend passes. Loses nothing transitioning to run with opponents, shows a terrific burst out of his plant, and has opponents throwing away from him. Can stay on the receivers' hip out of their breaks and plays with a explosiveness.
Negative: Must improve the consistency of his backpedal. Seems to get lost in zone coverage.
Analysis: Walls displayed the underlying skills to be a top cornerback prospect throughout his college career. He must fine-tune the details of his game, but he is a prospect who could see significant action in nickel packages as a rookie in the NFL.
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Post by rvajet815 on May 26, 2015 9:36:09 GMT -5
Can't argue with much...I agree with throwing Cumberland to the scrap heap. And also remember that Mac brought in Devier Posey, one of his guys from Houston. As much as I'd like to see my guy Q stick, Bowles will be hard pressed to throw Posey to the scrap heap. Lots of tough choices...including some actual "good" tough decisions on offense for a change. No more Gates/StoneHands battles for the last WR slot
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Post by Touchable on May 26, 2015 20:41:19 GMT -5
Offense (25)
QB: Geno, Fitzpatrick, Petty
RB: Ivory, Stacy, Ridley, Powell
WR: Marshall, Decker, Smith, Kerley, Enunwa, Owusu
TE: Amaro, Davis, Cumberland, Saxton
OL: Mangold, Brick, Carpenter, Breno, Aboushi, Harrison, Dozier, Brewer
Defense (25)
DL: Wilkerson, Richardson, L. Williams, Harrison, Douzable, Vickerson
LB: Harris, Davis, Coples, Mauldin, Pace, Enemkpali, Henderson, T. Jones
DB: Revis, Cro, Skrine, Milliner, McDougle, M. Williams, Pryor, Gilchrist, Allen, Jarrett
Special Teams (3)
PK: Folk
P: Quigley
LS: Purdum
Practice Squad
QB Jake Heaps FS Durell Eskridge CB Dashaun Phillips NT Deon Simon WR Walter Powell OLB Deion Barnes FB J.C. Copeland DL Davon Walls OT Sean Hooey OLB Julian Howsare
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