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Post by Jets Things on Jun 20, 2015 23:20:57 GMT -5
All guns should be banned. Existing guns should be confiscated by the Government. Failure to comply should result in internment of no less than 10 years in a State reeducation camp. If you value your penis analogue gun more than our collective safety and well being, you belong in a a gulag. Citizens should also have to comply with mandatory state psych exams, to weed out the crazy violent racists like that boy in SC. Yeah everyone should get fucking swords back. Let's handel this shit the right way. Chop a fucking head off none of this bang bang your dead sissy bullshit. Cops get swords too. No one gets guns no one I'd actually prefer this as my old man has a small collection of Scottish claymores. Still, I'll take my gunstock war club over any hand to hand melee weapon, especially in a zombie apocalypse.
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Post by Peebag on Jun 20, 2015 23:21:00 GMT -5
All guns should be banned. Existing guns should be confiscated by the Government. Failure to comply should result in internment of no less than 10 years in a State reeducation camp. If you value your penis analogue gun more than our collective safety and well being, you belong in a a gulag. Citizens should also have to comply with mandatory state psych exams, to weed out the crazy violent racists like that boy in SC. Yeah everyone should get fucking swords back. Let's handel this shit the right way. Chop a fucking head off none of this bang bang your dead sissy bullshit. Cops get swords too. No one gets guns no one You really should look into running for public office...I'd get behind your candidacy for no other reason than it being a hell of a ride.
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Post by Wee Baby Shamus on Jun 21, 2015 7:59:53 GMT -5
Well I dont think anyone disagrees with that. But how? Sadly its just a fact of modern life now so expect it now and then It's a fact of modern American life. And Brooklynjet's post described a solution which ten states and DC already have in place. Thats hardly a solution. I suppose it would make it a wee harder to get a gun but not come close to complete prevention. Then you have this hassle to meet at a shop and added fees just to sell something. Again, the honest citizen who wouldnt hurt a fly needs to go the extra mile.... This kid could have bought a street gun. He could just went to his dads room and grabbed any from his collection. He could have borrowed his buddies....its endless. The real issue is the total lack of mental health programs. There are too many firearms in this country to prevent anyone from getting one
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Post by Trades on Jun 21, 2015 8:00:18 GMT -5
All guns should be banned. Existing guns should be confiscated by the Government. Failure to comply should result in internment of no less than 10 years in a State reeducation camp. If you value your penis analogue gun more than our collective safety and well being, you belong in a a gulag. Citizens should also have to comply with mandatory state psych exams, to weed out the crazy violent racists like that boy in SC. Sure because nothing could ever go wrong with a policy like this. The government would never root out opposition and imprison them. Governments have proven over and over that they cannot be trusted with power like this. They currently abuse every loophole possible to take things from the people and try to exert more and more control. Stop trying to give away my (our) freedom to try to quell your fear.
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Post by The Tax Returns Are in Kenya on Jun 21, 2015 12:22:28 GMT -5
If gun control equals more violence, why do countries with stricter laws have less violent crime? Correlation does not equal causation. I don't know if you can really apply that scientific axiom to human behavior. When you're trying to figure something out or solve a problem, the tried and true approach is to study models where it has already been solved, or the problem doesn't exist. And then try to duplicate the behavior.
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Post by rexneffect on Jun 21, 2015 13:50:41 GMT -5
All guns should be banned. Existing guns should be confiscated by the Government. Failure to comply should result in internment of no less than 10 years in a State reeducation camp. If you value your penis analogue gun more than our collective safety and well being, you belong in a a gulag. Citizens should also have to comply with mandatory state psych exams, to weed out the crazy violent racists like that boy in SC. Sure because nothing could ever go wrong with a policy like this. The government would never root out opposition and imprison them. Governments have proven over and over that they cannot be trusted with power like this. They currently abuse every loophole possible to take things from the people and try to exert more and more control. Stop trying to give away my (our) freedom to try to quell your fear. I agree that one gets into dangerous territory allowing the government to mandate psych exams where there is no history of mental disability. As a practical matter, we do such a terrible job enforcing existing screening laws to check for felony convictions, family violence convictions and existing mental health screenings. So long as people can go to gun shows or otherwise lawfully conduct gun sales without background checks then mandating more screening does very little. Moreover, there is no way any type of mental health screening is going to be constitutionally permitted that will prevent gun sales or gun licenses to people based on racist beliefs. The connection the gun lobby is desperate to draw between gun violence and mental health is tough to take seriously and not just because the same groups of politicians calling for more mental health facilities are the same groups who defunded mental health facilities in the first place and make no effort to reverse that. The vast, vast majority of gun violence is not perpetrated by people with mental disabilities.
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Post by The Tax Returns Are in Kenya on Jun 21, 2015 20:29:18 GMT -5
The connection the gun lobby is desperate to draw between gun violence and mental health is tough to take seriously and not just because the same groups of politicians calling for more mental health facilities are the same groups who defunded mental health facilities in the first place and make no effort to reverse that. The vast, vast majority of gun violence is not perpetrated by people with mental disabilities. To believe that you'd have to believe that the US and A has a vastly higher percentage and/or amount of people with mental disabilities, which just isn't true.
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Post by PK on Jun 21, 2015 20:34:10 GMT -5
All guns should be banned. Existing guns should be confiscated by the Government. Failure to comply should result in internment of no less than 10 years in a State reeducation camp. If you value your penis analogue gun more than our collective safety and well being, you belong in a a gulag. Citizens should also have to comply with mandatory state psych exams, to weed out the crazy violent racists like that boy in SC. Sure because nothing could ever go wrong with a policy like this. The government would never root out opposition and imprison them. Governments have proven over and over that they cannot be trusted with power like this. They currently abuse every loophole possible to take things from the people and try to exert more and more control. Stop trying to give away my (our) freedom to try to quell your fear. I know. That's why we live in a prison state and Obama has taken away everyone's guns. Just like you predicted 6 years ago.
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Post by Wee Baby Shamus on Jun 22, 2015 6:04:18 GMT -5
Sure because nothing could ever go wrong with a policy like this. The government would never root out opposition and imprison them. Governments have proven over and over that they cannot be trusted with power like this. They currently abuse every loophole possible to take things from the people and try to exert more and more control. Stop trying to give away my (our) freedom to try to quell your fear. I know. That's why we live in a prison state and Obama has taken away everyone's guns. Just like you predicted 6 years ago. ouch good one by pk. And hes right too. So much for socialist america lol
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Post by BEAC0NJET on Jun 22, 2015 11:13:30 GMT -5
Correlation does not equal causation. I don't know if you can really apply that scientific axiom to human behavior. When you're trying to figure something out or solve a problem, the tried and true approach is to study models where it has already been solved, or the problem doesn't exist. And then try to duplicate the behavior. Yeah, it was more a quip than anything. If I had more energy, Id have pointed out that its hard to compare the US and guns to other countries, so you can study those models, but come to false conclusions. We're a unique beast, different history, and its not as simple as stricter gun laws = less violent crime. The data is often bogus/underreported/differently reported in other countries. Countries like England already lower murder rates. There are countries with high gun ownership rates and low firearm homicide rates and countries with high ownership and high firearm homicide rates. I can cherry pick stats, for whatever they are worth.
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