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Post by ruby2 on Jun 19, 2015 0:43:01 GMT -5
Calvin Pryor, the next Kyle Burnt Toast Wilson. Sucks for Sudfeld. I will always remember his non-effort/reaction on that pass from Geno against GB last year. That was the worst thing I have ever seen a pass catcher do. Still boggles my mind.
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Post by Jet Nut Sauce on Jun 20, 2015 10:55:01 GMT -5
I have no love for Sudfeld, but do feel bad for the guy. Pryor may not be a bust, but so far so bad. Anyone who stuck up for Idzik's draft was delusional. I knew it was a nightmare right away. Pryor, Amaro (who already is in the doghouse w/ Bowles). Missing on all those WRs. That dumb fuck set us back YEARS. Why and how is Amaro in Bowles doghouse? Getting back to Pryor, lets see what he does playing the position he was drafted at, not where he had to play due to injuries etc, and what Amaro looks like he will give us along with Dozier, etc, while it could have been a lot better, it didnt set us back a day, never mind YEARS.
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Post by JetRepulsion1 on Jun 22, 2015 9:03:56 GMT -5
I have no love for Sudfeld, but do feel bad for the guy. Pryor may not be a bust, but so far so bad. Anyone who stuck up for Idzik's draft was delusional. I knew it was a nightmare right away. Pryor, Amaro (who already is in the doghouse w/ Bowles). Missing on all those WRs. That dumb fuck set us back YEARS. Why and how is Amaro in Bowles doghouse? Getting back to Pryor, lets see what he does playing the position he was drafted at, not where he had to play due to injuries etc, and what Amaro looks like he will give us along with Dozier, etc, while it could have been a lot better, it didnt set us back a day, never mind YEARS. Amaro is in Bowles doghous because the new coaching staff watched all of last year's games and came to the same conclusion I did about Amaro (from last sunday's NY Post): "Second-year tight end Jace Amaro has become one of the more interesting Jets to keep an eye on in training camp. Amaro missed this week with a back injury, costing him some time to impress the coaches. Even before he was injured, though, Amaro was hard to find this spring. Bowles uses two fields for practice – a first field for starters and guys he wants to work in and a second field for everyone else. Amaro was often on the second field. I don’t think that’s a good sign for him. I’m not suggesting the Jets will give up on Amaro in his second year, but it seems like he is going to have to earn playing time with the new coaching staff." As for Idzik's horrendous draft, it certainly did set us back. It was maybe the worst draft in the history of the NFL. Maybe not 5 years, but definitely a year or 2. It got him fired. It led to 4-12. It sucked. Idzik sucked. And there is no sticking up for that draft even if Pryor turns it around and Amaro learns to catch. 12 picks and we got dick.
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Post by Jet Nut Sauce on Jun 22, 2015 15:18:25 GMT -5
Why and how is Amaro in Bowles doghouse? Getting back to Pryor, lets see what he does playing the position he was drafted at, not where he had to play due to injuries etc, and what Amaro looks like he will give us along with Dozier, etc, while it could have been a lot better, it didnt set us back a day, never mind YEARS. Amaro is in Bowles doghous because the new coaching staff watched all of last year's games and came to the same conclusion I did about Amaro (from last sunday's NY Post): "Second-year tight end Jace Amaro has become one of the more interesting Jets to keep an eye on in training camp. Amaro missed this week with a back injury, costing him some time to impress the coaches. Even before he was injured, though, Amaro was hard to find this spring. Bowles uses two fields for practice – a first field for starters and guys he wants to work in and a second field for everyone else. Amaro was often on the second field. I don’t think that’s a good sign for him. I’m not suggesting the Jets will give up on Amaro in his second year, but it seems like he is going to have to earn playing time with the new coaching staff." As for Idzik's horrendous draft, it certainly did set us back. It was maybe the worst draft in the history of the NFL. Maybe not 5 years, but definitely a year or 2. It got him fired. It led to 4-12. It sucked. Idzik sucked. And there is no sticking up for that draft even if Pryor turns it around and Amaro learns to catch. 12 picks and we got dick. So off of an insignificant OTA questioning why he spent some of his time on another field you have guessed that he's in the doghouse? Lol. So every guy who doesn't practice with starters, or isn't a starter is in the HCs doghouse? Now that's funny. and no, the draft didn't set us back years. Not anymore than the idiotic idea that it was the worst draft in history. Especially if Pryor as a SS is what they expected him to be and Amaro develops as he should. You got dick, how old are you?
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Post by The Tax Returns Are in Kenya on Jun 22, 2015 16:03:09 GMT -5
As for Idzik's horrendous draft, it certainly did set us back. It was maybe the worst draft in the history of the NFL. Maybe not 5 years, but definitely a year or 2. It got him fired. It led to 4-12. It sucked. Idzik sucked. And there is no sticking up for that draft even if Pryor turns it around and Amaro learns to catch. 12 picks and we got dick It was bad, but that's a little much.
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Post by carlito1171 on Jun 22, 2015 16:08:30 GMT -5
Calvin Pryor, the next Kyle Burnt Toast Wilson. Sucks for Sudfeld. I will always remember his non-effort/reaction on that pass from Geno against GB last year. That was the worst thing I have ever seen a pass catcher do. Still boggles my mind. When we whipped on GB in Lambeau for a quarter and a half..and Geno looked like he was on his way to becoming a top 10 QB...fun times!
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Post by JetRepulsion1 on Jun 22, 2015 16:12:44 GMT -5
As for Idzik's horrendous draft, it certainly did set us back. It was maybe the worst draft in the history of the NFL. Maybe not 5 years, but definitely a year or 2. It got him fired. It led to 4-12. It sucked. Idzik sucked. And there is no sticking up for that draft even if Pryor turns it around and Amaro learns to catch. 12 picks and we got dick It was bad, but that's a little much. OK. ONE of the worst drafts in history. )
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Post by JetRepulsion1 on Jun 22, 2015 16:14:14 GMT -5
Amaro is in Bowles doghous because the new coaching staff watched all of last year's games and came to the same conclusion I did about Amaro (from last sunday's NY Post): "Second-year tight end Jace Amaro has become one of the more interesting Jets to keep an eye on in training camp. Amaro missed this week with a back injury, costing him some time to impress the coaches. Even before he was injured, though, Amaro was hard to find this spring. Bowles uses two fields for practice – a first field for starters and guys he wants to work in and a second field for everyone else. Amaro was often on the second field. I don’t think that’s a good sign for him. I’m not suggesting the Jets will give up on Amaro in his second year, but it seems like he is going to have to earn playing time with the new coaching staff." As for Idzik's horrendous draft, it certainly did set us back. It was maybe the worst draft in the history of the NFL. Maybe not 5 years, but definitely a year or 2. It got him fired. It led to 4-12. It sucked. Idzik sucked. And there is no sticking up for that draft even if Pryor turns it around and Amaro learns to catch. 12 picks and we got dick. So off of an insignificant OTA questioning why he spent some of his time on another field you have guessed that he's in the doghouse? Lol. So every guy who doesn't practice with starters, or isn't a starter is in the HCs doghouse? Now that's funny. and no, the draft didn't set us back years. Not anymore than the idiotic idea that it was the worst draft in history. Especially if Pryor as a SS is what they expected him to be and Amaro develops as he should. You got dick, how old are you? 69 Dude. haha. Anyway, let's see what Amaro and Pryor do. Don't like that we missed on 10 out of 12 picks or possibly 12 out of 12 picks. Not so hot. Also, not getting a single good WR in most WR rich draft is pathetic. But, yes, it wasn't the worst in history maybe, but it's up there.
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Post by Jet Nut Sauce on Jun 22, 2015 17:26:04 GMT -5
So off of an insignificant OTA questioning why he spent some of his time on another field you have guessed that he's in the doghouse? Lol. So every guy who doesn't practice with starters, or isn't a starter is in the HCs doghouse? Now that's funny. and no, the draft didn't set us back years. Not anymore than the idiotic idea that it was the worst draft in history. Especially if Pryor as a SS is what they expected him to be and Amaro develops as he should. You got dick, how old are you? 69 Dude. haha. Anyway, let's see what Amaro and Pryor do. Don't like that we missed on 10 out of 12 picks or possibly 12 out of 12 picks. Not so hot. Also, not getting a single good WR in most WR rich draft is pathetic. But, yes, it wasn't the worst in history maybe, but it's up there. It's not close to the worst we've had, never mind worst in the NFL. And you can't judge a draft off of year 1, especially since not only do you not know about Pryor and Amaro, you don't know what Dexter McDougle, Shaq Evans,Dakota Dozier, OT, Quincy Enunwa! Ik Enemkpali or Trevor Reilly will become and if some or all contribute down the road.
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Post by JetRepulsion1 on Jun 23, 2015 9:47:23 GMT -5
69 Dude. haha. Anyway, let's see what Amaro and Pryor do. Don't like that we missed on 10 out of 12 picks or possibly 12 out of 12 picks. Not so hot. Also, not getting a single good WR in most WR rich draft is pathetic. But, yes, it wasn't the worst in history maybe, but it's up there. It's not close to the worst we've had, never mind worst in the NFL. And you can't judge a draft off of year 1, especially since not only do you not know about Pryor and Amaro, you don't know what Dexter McDougle, S haq Evans,Dakota Dozier, OT, Quincy Enunwa! Ik Enemkpali or Trevor Reilly will become and if some or all contribute down the road. those guys will be lucky to make the team. OK, so it wasn't even the Jets worst drafts in history. Probably true, but that is not a high standard to live up to. We've had some doozies. Let's see how things turn out, but looking at what we got (like half the picks not even on the rooster right now) and what other rookies did last year (i.e. the plethora of great rookie WRs when we so desperately needed one) is making that draft look pretty terrible so far.
Oh, and here's a breakdown of that"draft". It's scary:
espn.go.com/blog/new-york-jets/post/_/id/51708/cover-your-eyes-an-update-on-the-jets-2014-draft-class
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Post by JetRepulsion1 on Jun 23, 2015 10:25:14 GMT -5
I have no love for Sudfeld, but do feel bad for the guy. Pryor may not be a bust, but so far so bad. Anyone who stuck up for Idzik's draft was delusional. I knew it was a nightmare right away. Pryor, Amaro (who already is in the doghouse w/ Bowles). Missing on all those WRs. That dumb fuck set us back YEARS. Why and how is Amaro in Bowles doghouse? Getting back to Pryor, lets see what he does playing the position he was drafted at, not where he had to play due to injuries etc, and what Amaro looks like he will give us along with Dozier, etc, while it could have been a lot better, it didnt set us back a day, never mind YEARS. Drop machine Amaro (from ESPN) Tight end Jace Amaro (No. 2, 49th) -- The new coaching staff won't try to make him something he's not. He'll be an H-Back, not a traditional, in-line tight end. Rex Ryan's least favorite former player has a lot to prove. With six drops in only 53 targets, he had the second-highest drop percentage in the league.
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Post by Jet Nut Sauce on Jun 23, 2015 12:41:27 GMT -5
It's not close to the worst we've had, never mind worst in the NFL. And you can't judge a draft off of year 1, especially since not only do you not know about Pryor and Amaro, you don't know what Dexter McDougle, S haq Evans,Dakota Dozier, OT, Quincy Enunwa! Ik Enemkpali or Trevor Reilly will become and if some or all contribute down the road. those guys will be lucky to make the team. OK, so it wasn't even the Jets worst drafts in history. Probably true, but that is not a high standard to live up to. We've had some doozies. Let's see how things turn out, but looking at what we got (like half the picks not even on the rooster right now) and what other rookies did last year (i.e. the plethora of great rookie WRs when we so desperately needed one) is making that draft look pretty terrible so far.
Oh, and here's a breakdown of that"draft". It's scary:
espn.go.com/blog/new-york-jets/post/_/id/51708/cover-your-eyes-an-update-on-the-jets-2014-draft-class
The key point to what you wrote is let's see how things turn out. If Pryor, McDougle and just one or two others work out its not as bad As you're thinking
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Post by Jet Nut Sauce on Jun 23, 2015 12:44:48 GMT -5
Why and how is Amaro in Bowles doghouse? Getting back to Pryor, lets see what he does playing the position he was drafted at, not where he had to play due to injuries etc, and what Amaro looks like he will give us along with Dozier, etc, while it could have been a lot better, it didnt set us back a day, never mind YEARS. Drop machine Amaro (from ESPN) Tight end Jace Amaro (No. 2, 49th) -- The new coaching staff won't try to make him something he's not. He'll be an H-Back, not a traditional, in-line tight end. Rex Ryan's least favorite former player has a lot to prove. With six drops in only 53 targets, he had the second-highest drop percentage in the league. Six drops, big fucking deal. The drops came at a slower rate as the season went on. That's what counts, who cares about a lousy six drops, most early? Give amrookiemamfucking break already, this argument is pointless. TO dropped a lot of balls, Braylon dropped a lot of balls. Happens but a lot is in the teens, five passes away from normal amount of drops. Plus he was a rookie, give it a break already Nostradamus
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Post by BEAC0NJET on Jun 23, 2015 13:00:35 GMT -5
Amaro led all 2014 rookie TEs in receptions, yards, TDs, and targets. I think the drops will go down with experience. I also see him as a solid, not superstar, TE. Which is fine.
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Post by JetRepulsion1 on Jun 23, 2015 15:54:42 GMT -5
Drop machine Amaro (from ESPN) Tight end Jace Amaro (No. 2, 49th) -- The new coaching staff won't try to make him something he's not. He'll be an H-Back, not a traditional, in-line tight end. Rex Ryan's least favorite former player has a lot to prove. With six drops in only 53 targets, he had the second-highest drop percentage in the league. Six drops, big fucking deal. The drops came at a slower rate as the season went on. That's what counts, who cares about a lousy six drops, most early? Give amrookiemamfucking break already, this argument is pointless. TO dropped a lot of balls, Braylon dropped a lot of balls. Happens but a lot is in the teens, five passes away from normal amount of drops. Plus he was a rookie, give it a break already Nostradamus Second highest drop percentage in the entire league. That's wayyyy too much. And, as I've stated before, all of them were the easiest catches ever. Like wide open, hitting him in the hands easy. And, they were at crucial moments (like 3rd downs) when we were driving to keep game close or take the lead early in the season. Anyway, he has a lot to prove. Hope he's learned from his mistakes and that he plays alot better this year (no more drops!) But, I'll leave it for now. beating a dead horse and all.
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