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Post by vin on Sept 27, 2015 15:38:43 GMT -5
I'm not ready yet to kick Fitz to the curb.
Want to give him an opportunity to rebound the next game(and WIN) before even THINKING of making a QB change.
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Post by southside on Sept 27, 2015 15:41:52 GMT -5
I'm willing to let Geno prove himself. If we are talking about INTs then what does it matter if both players are throwing them? The numbers are probably the same regardless at this point TDs to INTs.
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Post by yankeejet22 on Sept 27, 2015 15:44:52 GMT -5
Get Geno ready this week. Fitz is great to have on this team. But as a backup.
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Post by carlito1171 on Sept 27, 2015 15:46:26 GMT -5
My whole thing is...teams know that they don't have to respect the deep ball....run game is thus ineffective and the Cbs are content with doubling Marshall and sitting on the rest of the routes.....
if both viable options are going to throw turnovers and make boneheaded mistakes, at least go with the guy who can put the ball out there, can use his legs, and has upside....
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Post by Harrier on Sept 27, 2015 15:52:01 GMT -5
Both guys have their limitations. Today we saw Fitzpatrick's limitations in full force. My biggest thing in the entire debate is that most people hate Geno because of the dumb turnovers, but Fitz makes plenty of dumb mistakes too added into his physical limitations. Fitz is and always has been a streaky player. Today we got the even out for the first 2 performances. You have to make a decision, it's either a journey man noodle arm game manager who limits turnovers, or a young gunslinger mistake prone QB who can keep a defense honest. I know my choice.
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Post by southside on Sept 27, 2015 15:54:23 GMT -5
Both guys have their limitations. Today we saw Fitzpatrick's limitations in full force. My biggest thing in the entire debate is that most people hate Geno because of the dumb turnovers, but Fitz makes plenty of dumb mistakes too added into his physical limitations. Fitz is and always has been a streaky player. Today we got the even out for the first 2 performances. You have to make a decision, it's either a journey man noodle arm game manager who limits turnovers, or a young gunslinger mistake prone QB who can keep a defense honest. I know my choice. That's the problem. People have been under the perception that Fitz limits turnovers... He throws them as much as anyone, except last year apparently. The guy is what he is, a good backup who will throw the game away every few games.
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Post by Harrier on Sept 27, 2015 15:57:48 GMT -5
You have to make a decision, it's either a journey man noodle arm game manager who limits turnovers, or a young gunslinger mistake prone QB who can keep a defense honest. I know my choice. That's the problem. People have been under the perception that Fitz limits turnovers... He throws them as much as anyone, except last year apparently. The guy is what he is, a good backup who will throw the game away every few games. Im still on the fense with Geno. I see the talent and I also get the criticism of him bein a dumb fuck, but I would still rather ride with a young drafted gunslinger than Fitz.
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Post by JetRepulsion1 on Sept 27, 2015 16:02:51 GMT -5
Both guys have their limitations. Today we saw Fitzpatrick's limitations in full force. My biggest thing in the entire debate is that most people hate Geno because of the dumb turnovers, but Fitz makes plenty of dumb mistakes too added into his physical limitations. Fitz is and always has been a streaky player. Today we got the even out for the first 2 performances. You have to make a decision, it's either a journey man noodle arm game manager who limits turnovers, or a young gunslinger mistake prone QB who can keep a defense honest. I know my choice. Agreed. Fitz we know and it isn't great. Let's let it roll with geno and c how he plays with a real O.
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Post by Harrier on Sept 27, 2015 16:25:12 GMT -5
Another thing with Geno he can hurt you with his legs.
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Post by ryu79 on Sept 27, 2015 16:33:49 GMT -5
Wait. I am prob as big a Geno supporter around, but think it's hard to pin today on Fitz.
I can really only blame him for one of those pics - the under thrown fade to Devin. The second pic was tipped as Breno was getting beat up and the last was all Brandon.
If Brandon catches that last ball (that was off his hands) or doesn't lateral that other play we prob win today.
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Post by JetRepulsion1 on Sept 27, 2015 16:44:06 GMT -5
Wait. I am prob as big a Geno supporter around, but think it's hard to pin today on Fitz. I can really only blame him for one of those pics - the under thrown fade to Devin. The second pic was tipped as Breno was getting beat up and the last was all Brandon. If Brandon catches that last ball (that was off his hands) or doesn't lateral that other play we prob win today. Those 2 Brandon plays definitely screwed us big time, but fitz was bad. Inaccurate, under thrown deep balls, horrible. Even the passes that were caught were off the mark. He stunk today.
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Post by adpz on Sept 27, 2015 17:09:35 GMT -5
I'd rather suck with Geno than with Fitz.
We are a rebuilding team - playoffs or not - and we should still be finding out if Geno is s worthy project. He had a strong enough finish last season to be worth finding out about - even just for draft purposes
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Post by Touchable on Sept 27, 2015 17:10:10 GMT -5
Wait. I am prob as big a Geno supporter around, but think it's hard to pin today on Fitz. I can really only blame him for one of those pics - the under thrown fade to Devin. The second pic was tipped as Breno was getting beat up and the last was all Brandon. If Brandon catches that last ball (that was off his hands) or doesn't lateral that other play we prob win today. It's not just the turnovers It's the fact that this offense is going to have to constantly rely on sustaining a bunch of 12+ play drives in order to get the ball into the endzone with Fitz under center. More plays it takes to sustain a drive, the more opportunities for a defense to create a turnover. This offense is never going to be even the least bit explosive with Fitzpatrick. We can't even properly utilize the kid that we just spent a high 2nd round pick on with him at QB. Hell, can't really utilize Marshall or Decker to their fullest capabilities either. Is Geno turnover prone? Yeah...but so is Fitzpatrick. Always has been. But at least Geno can push the ball downfield, has a relatively quick release and is a better athlete. Fitz is what he is. He's an 11 year vet. He's not going to suddenly turn his career around and become a consistent Top 15 QB. He's a good backup who can come in an help win you a game or two in a pinch. At least there's still some upside with Geno.
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Post by adpz on Sept 27, 2015 17:13:48 GMT -5
Wait. I am prob as big a Geno supporter around, but think it's hard to pin today on Fitz. I can really only blame him for one of those pics - the under thrown fade to Devin. The second pic was tipped as Breno was getting beat up and the last was all Brandon. If Brandon catches that last ball (that was off his hands) or doesn't lateral that other play we prob win today. It's not just the turnovers It's the fact that this offense is going to have to constantly rely on sustaining a bunch of 12+ play drives in order to get the ball into the endzone with Fitz under center. More plays it takes to sustain a drive, the more opportunities for a defense to create a turnover. This offense is never going to be even the least bit explosive with Fitzpatrick. We can't even properly utilize the kid that we just spent a high 2nd round pick on with him at QB. Is Geno turnover prone? Yeah...but so is Fitzpatrick. Always has been. But at least Geno can push the ball downfield, has a relatively quick release and is a better athlete. Fitz is what he is. He's an 11 year vet. He's not going to suddenly turn his career around. He's a good backup QB who can come in an help win you a game or two in a pinch. At least there's still some upside with Geno. 100% And the blueprint today is going to show up in the NE game plan against us as well. We need an offense that can get the ball down the field. All in all, a loss vs NFC isn't a bad dose of medicine to take right now. But we better shellac MIA and WSH. Kirk Cousins looks like an even less talented version of Fitz
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Post by The Tax Returns Are in Kenya on Sept 27, 2015 17:20:58 GMT -5
It's not just the turnovers It's the fact that this offense is going to have to constantly rely on sustaining a bunch of 12+ play drives in order to get the ball into the endzone with Fitz under center. More plays it takes to sustain a drive, the more opportunities for a defense to create a turnover. This offense is never going to be even the least bit explosive with Fitzpatrick. We can't even properly utilize the kid that we just spent a high 2nd round pick on with him at QB. Is Geno turnover prone? Yeah...but so is Fitzpatrick. Always has been. But at least Geno can push the ball downfield, has a relatively quick release and is a better athlete. Fitz is what he is. He's an 11 year vet. He's not going to suddenly turn his career around. He's a good backup QB who can come in an help win you a game or two in a pinch. At least there's still some upside with Geno. 100% And the blueprint today is going to show up in the NE game plan against us as well. We need an offense that can get the ball down the field. All in all, a loss vs NFC isn't a bad dose of medicine to take right now. But we better shellac MIA and WSH. Kirk Cousins looks like an even less talented version of Fitz Hopefully our two main offensive weapons are back on the field by then
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