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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2015 16:04:30 GMT -5
Thoughts, neither guy is the answer.
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Post by Stark on Sept 22, 2015 16:07:15 GMT -5
I'm as happy as can be that were winning games. But this is probably the only thing I feel should be addressed, I don't think we should quit on geno .... Yet. I believe he has the ability , he had a good camp that was ended short . I maybe part of a really small percentage of fans that believe that , we saw what a good geno smith can do , a good geno in yesterday game would of been a 40-50 point blowout . I don't quit on him just yet , if fitz wins us games tho which I'm all in for then stay at QB for the season and fight it out again next year. But to dump him would be ridiculous. Thoughts? And a regular Geno in yesterday's game would have been a 7 point loss. Yes, based on Geno's past play he most likely throws one or 2 ill timed picks and we lose by a FG. I don't understand why most people feel the MIAMI games are a sign of things to come. 2 good games in 2 years vs I don't even know how many bad games and in the bad games some of the craziest, dumb decisions ever. It is Fitz's job and I think it takes an injury for him to lose it.
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Post by carlito1171 on Sept 22, 2015 16:07:41 GMT -5
Smart move Bowles...kill the QB controversy before it even gets a chance to brew...keep the team focus...
Also, I know I'm not the only one who saw Geno sulking yesterday while the team was winning late in the 4th..
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Post by carlito1171 on Sept 22, 2015 16:09:56 GMT -5
Bowles gets it. The right decision, at the right time, handled in the right way. Any potential controversy killed stone dead. By contrast, imagine the way our previous coach would have handled something like this... "Well you know...situations will dictate things. Obviously, we have a clear plan. I mean there's no doubt about it, we're gonna play whoever gives us the best chance to win and this and that. Just put that on me....you guys can just put that on me. I'll take responsibility for it and.....look, we know what's going on here. The players and coaches are all on the same page and whatnot. Look, don't try to create some quarterback controversy when we obviously know what our plan is, you know. How many times do I have to say it? Geez...golly. Everyone understands it." and things.....and all that
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Post by jetstream23 on Sept 22, 2015 16:10:11 GMT -5
Thoughts, neither guy is the answer. The answer to what? It depends what the question is.... 1. Can a QB like Ryan Fitzpatrick carry a subpar team to the playoffs, making the guys around him better and compensating for deficiencies on offense? NO. 2. Can you win with a great defense, good running game, and above average WRs if you have a QB like Ryan Fitzpatrick? YES.
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Post by Hotman on Sept 22, 2015 16:13:29 GMT -5
Bowles gets it. The right decision, at the right time, handled in the right way. Any potential controversy killed stone dead. By contrast, imagine the way our previous coach would have handled something like this... "Well you know...situations will dictate things. Obviously, we have a clear plan. I mean there's no doubt about it, we're gonna play whoever gives us the best chance to win and this and that. Just put that on me....you guys can just put that on me. I'll take responsibility for it and.....look, we know what's going on here. The players and coaches are all on the same page and whatnot. Look, don't try to create some quarterback controversy when we obviously know what our plan is, you know. How many times do I have to say it? Geez...golly. Everyone understands it." "We're not gonna name a starter, we feel like...look, we're gonna work our tails off on this thing. Do guys know we're gonna give it our all? You betcha! I'm gonna tell ya this...we got 3 great QBs who can all get it done and our team feels comfortable no matter who gets the start...but guys... it's not 'this guy vs that guy' those guys get along great over there now, whoo...they help each other out, but we feel great about our qb situation and things."
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Post by JetRepulsion1 on Sept 22, 2015 16:14:18 GMT -5
I'm as happy as can be that were winning games. But this is probably the only thing I feel should be addressed, I don't think we should quit on geno .... Yet. I believe he has the ability , he had a good camp that was ended short . I maybe part of a really small percentage of fans that believe that , we saw what a good geno smith can do , a good geno in yesterday game would of been a 40-50 point blowout . I don't quit on him just yet , if fitz wins us games tho which I'm all in for then stay at QB for the season and fight it out again next year. But to dump him would be ridiculous. Thoughts? I'll leave the decision up to the coaches. I'm not ready to give up on Geno and I'm not 100% sold on Fitz. Going to have to see how things play out. If Fitz continues to play well (not great, but good) then I think he keeps the job. But, if he falters then I'm sure Bowles will put in Geno.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2015 16:20:39 GMT -5
Thoughts, neither guy is the answer. The answer to what? It depends what the question is.... 1. Can a QB like Ryan Fitzpatrick carry a subpar team to the playoffs, making the guys around him better and compensating for deficiencies on offense? NO. 2. Can you win with a great defense, good running game, and above average WRs if you have a QB like Ryan Fitzpatrick? YES. SB, nothing else matters. Unless things have changed with him, I don't believe he can go the distance.
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Post by Hotman on Sept 22, 2015 16:23:47 GMT -5
The answer to what? It depends what the question is.... 1. Can a QB like Ryan Fitzpatrick carry a subpar team to the playoffs, making the guys around him better and compensating for deficiencies on offense? NO. 2. Can you win with a great defense, good running game, and above average WRs if you have a QB like Ryan Fitzpatrick? YES. SB, nothing else matters. Unless things have changed with him, I don't believe he can go the distance. Some people believe he's got the perfect surrounding cast to do so at the perfect time... Not saying I'm one... But some people do. Not saying I disagree with them either.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2015 16:26:59 GMT -5
SB, nothing else matters. Unless things have changed with him, I don't believe he can go the distance. Some people believe he's got the perfect surrounding cast to do so at the perfect time... Not saying I'm one... But some people do. Not saying I disagree with them either. Hey I hope so, what's he have like 90 starts with 35 wins?
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Post by Hotman on Sept 22, 2015 16:29:15 GMT -5
Some people believe he's got the perfect surrounding cast to do so at the perfect time... Not saying I'm one... But some people do. Not saying I disagree with them either. Hey I hope so, what's he have like 90 starts with 35 wins? LOL maybe... but I don't think he's ever played with a defense nearly this good. Or with a couple beasts like Marshall and Ivory. Actually he did have beast mode iirc, but that's about it.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2015 16:35:17 GMT -5
Hey I hope so, what's he have like 90 starts with 35 wins? LOL maybe... but I don't think he's ever played with a defense nearly this good. Or with a couple beasts like Marshall and Ivory. Actually he did have beast mode iirc, but that's about it. Ivory is no beast. Beating mediocre teams is something to celebrate for some I guess and we play a lot of them. What matters is when it gets down to the nitty gritty and you have to beat the equal or better teams when it really matters. Hey, I hope so, I am cautiously optimistic.
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Post by jetstream23 on Sept 22, 2015 16:44:49 GMT -5
SB, nothing else matters. Unless things have changed with him, I don't believe he can go the distance. Some people believe he's got the perfect surrounding cast to do so at the perfect time... Not saying I'm one... But some people do. Not saying I disagree with them either. I read this three times. I'm not sure I understand your point exactly. I'm also not saying that I don't understand your point, but some people might say that. I may be one of them.
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Post by Hotman on Sept 22, 2015 17:08:47 GMT -5
I guarantee there are a lot of teams who wish they had him.
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Post by Hotman on Sept 22, 2015 17:15:28 GMT -5
Some people believe he's got the perfect surrounding cast to do so at the perfect time... Not saying I'm one... But some people do. Not saying I disagree with them either. I read this three times. I'm not sure I understand your point exactly. I'm also not saying that I don't understand your point, but some people might say that. I may be one of them. So you're not the most pessmistic as possible like Apache who must be convinced only a "top five" QB can possibly get to and even win a SB? I'm not either, but I don't think it's impossible with our defense, Fitzmagic can get us to the playoffs. If he keeps managing things like he is of course he can ride our Defense. Just like every damn other defensive team that wins a SB with a previously average to shitty QB. Is fitz better than Sanchez? absolutely. nuff said. Not saying I think he's gonna take us to the big one, but certainly not impossible.
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