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Post by JB1089 on Sept 29, 2015 15:18:39 GMT -5
It's true that others do this, but damn if he isn't ten times better than everyone else at it. It's obvious that either they spend time on this in practice, or it's yet another example of how Rodgers is on a level of QB play that we can only pray to see at some point in our lives. So infuriating to watch Jet QBs get a defender to jump offsides...but then fail to snap the ball! Try that with Rodgers and he's going 40 yards down the field each time. It's impressive. What is there to practice? Just throw it!  QBs go into every play knowing that they don't have long to get rid of the ball. Before the ball is snapped, they're already thinking about their first read. It takes a pretty impressive degree of awareness to be able to switch gears when you catch a glimpse of yellow out of the corner of your eye. My guess is that most of the Packers passing plays already incorporate come kind of vertical route, so when Rodgers sees a flag he scraps his normal progression and hits the vertical. The WRs also look like they've been drilled to take off downfield if they ever see a flag thrown on the defense. Those are split second decisions that they're making. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2015 15:37:47 GMT -5
What is there to practice? Just throw it! QBs go into every play knowing that they don't have long to get rid of the ball. Before the ball is snapped, they're already thinking about their first read. It takes a pretty impressive degree of awareness to be able to switch gears when you catch a glimpse of yellow out of the corner of your eye. My guess is that most of the Packers passing plays already incorporate come kind of vertical route, so when Rodgers sees a flag he scraps his normal progression and hits the vertical. The WRs also look like they've been drilled to take off downfield if they ever see a flag thrown on the defense. Those are split second decisions that they're making. That's are really good post, you are spot on. Rodgers put on an absolute clinic last night on how to play the QB position in the NFL. |
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Post by Slackjaw on Sept 29, 2015 17:22:45 GMT -5
I enjoy the game nice to see some ball playing without NE cheaters or cheating. Coverage sucks in these parts.
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Post by rangerous on Sept 29, 2015 19:10:34 GMT -5
Granted watching Rodgers yesterday was sickening (if you're not a Packer fan). All the announcers rave about these "free plays" Rodgers takes on a coming penalty. Is this such a marvel of ingenuity, to chuck the ball down the field after a penalty has been called (or about to be called?  ) ? Did Rodgers originate this brilliance? You have to wonder, why doesn't everyone else do it? It's true that others do this, but damn if he isn't ten times better than everyone else at it. It's obvious that either they spend time on this in practice, or it's yet another example of how Rodgers is on a level of QB play that we can only pray to see at some point in our lives. So infuriating to watch Jet QBs get a defender to jump offsides...but then fail to snap the ball! Try that with Rodgers and he's going 40 yards down the field each time. It's impressive. yes. of course but then rogers has been qb for the same team for 10 years or so. he has absolute command of the team so they run the plays the way he want. the same can be said of brady and even brees and rivers. it's an incredible luxury to have a qb that has been so good for so many seasons. |
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Post by Ff2 on Sept 29, 2015 20:27:34 GMT -5
Granted watching Rodgers yesterday was sickening (if you're not a Packer fan). All the announcers rave about these "free plays" Rodgers takes on a coming penalty. Is this such a marvel of ingenuity, to chuck the ball down the field after a penalty has been called (or about to be called? ) ? Did Rodgers originate this brilliance? You have to wonder, why doesn't everyone else do it? I think it's cheating. |
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Post by adpz on Sept 29, 2015 21:57:15 GMT -5
Granted watching Rodgers yesterday was sickening (if you're not a Packer fan). All the announcers rave about these "free plays" Rodgers takes on a coming penalty. Is this such a marvel of ingenuity, to chuck the ball down the field after a penalty has been called (or about to be called? ) ? Did Rodgers originate this brilliance? You have to wonder, why doesn't everyone else do it? I think it's cheating. I don't like that kind of petty 'gotcha' playing that is apparently having a moment in the NFL. I don't recall Terry Bradshaw (well don't recall him at all actually) or Joe Montana or Troy Aikman or even Brett Farve every having to make bullshit plays like that part of their gameplan. And I will forever hate Marino for that fake spike. You don't see Clayton Kershaw quick-pitching or pretending to throw the ball back to the catcher or LeBron hiding the ball in the back of his shirt like the Globetrotters. The best players should be above this kind of play IMO. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2015 22:03:46 GMT -5
It's true that others do this, but damn if he isn't ten times better than everyone else at it. It's obvious that either they spend time on this in practice, or it's yet another example of how Rodgers is on a level of QB play that we can only pray to see at some point in our lives. So infuriating to watch Jet QBs get a defender to jump offsides...but then fail to snap the ball! Try that with Rodgers and he's going 40 yards down the field each time. It's impressive. What is there to practice? Just throw it! Ask James Jones; he made that ish look real easy. |
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Post by Eternal Champion on Sept 29, 2015 22:32:36 GMT -5
What is there to practice? Just throw it! QBs go into every play knowing that they don't have long to get rid of the ball. Before the ball is snapped, they're already thinking about their first read. It takes a pretty impressive degree of awareness to be able to switch gears when you catch a glimpse of yellow out of the corner of your eye. My guess is that most of the Packers passing plays already incorporate come kind of vertical route, so when Rodgers sees a flag he scraps his normal progression and hits the vertical. The WRs also look like they've been drilled to take off downfield if they ever see a flag thrown on the defense. Those are split second decisions that they're making. The tricky part, as I see it, is you also have to be reasonably sure the flag is on the defense. If you put up a wild throw because you thought they were offsides, and it turns out the penalty's on the O, you might end up giving up a turnover. Maybe they have some idea based on when the flag is thrown and in what part of the field, but my (complete and utter) guess is that Rogers only goes into free-play mode if he actually sees the penalty happen, and receivers probably don't go into free play mode at all (just run their normal routes) because I can't imagine they're in a position to evaluate all that while running. |
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Post by Ff2 on Sept 30, 2015 8:19:14 GMT -5
I don't like that kind of petty 'gotcha' playing that is apparently having a moment in the NFL. I don't recall Terry Bradshaw (well don't recall him at all actually) or Joe Montana or Troy Aikman or even Brett Farve every having to make bullshit plays like that part of their gameplan. And I will forever hate Marino for that fake spike. You don't see Clayton Kershaw quick-pitching or pretending to throw the ball back to the catcher or LeBron hiding the ball in the back of his shirt like the Globetrotters. The best players should be above this kind of play IMO. I understand what you are saying but as long as rules allow it, teams will always look for an advantage, and where do you draw the line. I saw a college game where a guy way over on one side of the field pretended the punt was coming his way. the whole punting team went in that direction. The punt actually went to someone on the other side of the field who ran it for a touchdown. now is this a gotcha or just god deception. . |
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Post by carlton on Sept 30, 2015 8:26:21 GMT -5
I don't like that kind of petty 'gotcha' playing that is apparently having a moment in the NFL. I don't recall Terry Bradshaw (well don't recall him at all actually) or Joe Montana or Troy Aikman or even Brett Farve every having to make bullshit plays like that part of their gameplan. And I will forever hate Marino for that fake spike. You don't see Clayton Kershaw quick-pitching or pretending to throw the ball back to the catcher or LeBron hiding the ball in the back of his shirt like the Globetrotters. The best players should be above this kind of play IMO. I understand what you are saying but as long as rules allow it, teams will always look for an advantage, and where do you draw the line. I saw a college game where a guy way over on one side of the field pretended the punt was coming his way. the whole punting team went in that direction. The punt actually went to someone on the other side of the field who ran it for a touchdown. now is this a gotcha or just god deception. . Or the Seahawks this week. Watch more football burger blood. |
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Post by DDNYjets on Sept 30, 2015 8:43:47 GMT -5
Its practiced. Just like its practiced when he scrambles everyone runs another pattern.
We cant do this b.c obviously we dont have a QB but also the penalty is usually on our offense.
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Post by DDNYjets on Sept 30, 2015 8:44:51 GMT -5
I don't like that kind of petty 'gotcha' playing that is apparently having a moment in the NFL. I don't recall Terry Bradshaw (well don't recall him at all actually) or Joe Montana or Troy Aikman or even Brett Farve every having to make bullshit plays like that part of their gameplan. And I will forever hate Marino for that fake spike. You don't see Clayton Kershaw quick-pitching or pretending to throw the ball back to the catcher or LeBron hiding the ball in the back of his shirt like the Globetrotters. The best players should be above this kind of play IMO. I understand what you are saying but as long as rules allow it, teams will always look for an advantage, and where do you draw the line. I saw a college game where a guy way over on one side of the field pretended the punt was coming his way. the whole punting team went in that direction. The punt actually went to someone on the other side of the field who ran it for a touchdown. now is this a gotcha or just god deception. . Those plays are well inside the line. What your beloved scumbags do is way out of bounds. Hope that clears things up for you. |
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Post by adpz on Sept 30, 2015 11:08:59 GMT -5
now is this a gotcha or just god deception. I just don't like my sports that way - it's like when whatshisface - the old owner of the Oakland A's wanted to find a midget as a leadoff hitter because his strike zone would be so small he would get a walk every time... (Dunno how long it takes a midget to run to 2nd though.....) There are many sports where it is just mano-a-mano - and that's quite pure to me - and to me that's the best of what a sport can be. I gave up on the NBA long ago because of their quasi-WWE approach to the game. A regular season NBA game is now like watching a civil court case. Thank god for playoff hockey - it's the only major game left where they just line up and play..... |
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Post by Ff2 on Sept 30, 2015 11:34:17 GMT -5
I understand what you are saying but as long as rules allow it, teams will always look for an advantage, and where do you draw the line. I saw a college game where a guy way over on one side of the field pretended the punt was coming his way. the whole punting team went in that direction. The punt actually went to someone on the other side of the field who ran it for a touchdown. now is this a gotcha or just god deception. . Or the Seahawks this week. Watch more football burger blood. Yeah I should have mentioned every time this ever happened instead of pointing out one example. My bad. |
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Post by Eternal Champion on Sept 30, 2015 11:58:11 GMT -5
I understand what you are saying but as long as rules allow it, teams will always look for an advantage, and where do you draw the line. I saw a college game where a guy way over on one side of the field pretended the punt was coming his way. the whole punting team went in that direction. The punt actually went to someone on the other side of the field who ran it for a touchdown. now is this a gotcha or just god deception. . Those plays are well inside the line. What your beloved scumbags do is way out of bounds. Hope that clears things up for you. Exactly. Football is a game of both rules & customs. It's like when two knights back in the day would battle, there were unspoken but well understood rules that they followed. The scumbags, if they were knights, would throw dirt in their opponent's face. It's bigger than football, it's about honor. |
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