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Post by quantum on Sept 30, 2015 15:09:17 GMT -5
What is this positivity you speak of? I'm a Jet fan you fackin tossa. I have no comeback to this. "spider 2 Y banana" say it whilst stroking your chin pensively
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Post by Ff2 on Sept 30, 2015 15:11:13 GMT -5
Not a problem.
They balance it out with struggling to throw the ball.
AMIRITE?
(this is actually an easy fix, when the runner sees that big red circle...they should GO THE OTHER WAY!)
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Post by Harrier on Sept 30, 2015 15:12:45 GMT -5
I have no comeback to this. "spider 2 Y banana" say it whilst stroking your chin pensively Did you see the Colts try and pull the owd spider 2 Y banana to an OT on us? Cheeky fucks.
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Post by southside on Sept 30, 2015 15:15:44 GMT -5
Not winning the 1v1 battles is an issue. The OLine isn't very good. Anyone that watches the Jets can see that. These dudes are ALL past their primes. The problem is the Jets have tried for the last 6 years to address the issue, they struck out on everyone they've drafted except for Slauson... who they inexplicably let walk away instead of paying him a fair salary. That's the issue with the Jets, they draft like shit and when they finally hit on the guy they don't want to pay him. While you might be right about this, I'm reserving judgment on the O-Line until the CS wises up and stops putting the killer from The Fugitive under center. No OL is successful when teams can stack the box like they have against the Jets. Age may be the reason, but I bet circumstances change (at least a little bit) when the defense isn't coming downhill as quickly. The Jets were #4 in the league in rushing last year (I believe), and the only changes are dropping Doushi for Carpenter and improving the blocking on the outside. What else has changed? Good point.
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Post by rangerous on Sept 30, 2015 16:24:15 GMT -5
I see the OL taking a lot of blame....while they leave a lot to be desired at times....its very difficult to create holes when your constantly having to deal with extra defenders in the box keying in on the run. This is what happens when your passing attack is clearly limited....good luck trying to run the rest of the year Seems like this is the Jets story, year after year. Tiresome! true enough. decker being out really helped the eagles in that regard. imo the jets , except for marshall, just don't scare anyone on offense. and when the eagles can clog up the middle so effectively and easily point to the fact they don't have anyone fast enough to get around the ends. hindsight is 20-20 but maybe they needed to call a few good screens, run a hurry up offense, hit more slants, and use the te more. personnel they are what they are right now. i don't see them adding any playmakers at this stage. i am hopeful that guys like enunwa and owusu and smith get better and give fitz the confidence he needs to throw into single coverage with those guys. we'll see. sunday's game will be very important.
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Post by Jetworks on Sept 30, 2015 16:28:13 GMT -5
While I agree that the Jets faced a difficult task trying to run against these fronts with little in the way of help in the passing game, and that the OL must share some responsibility as well, the above is all on Zac Stacy. From the stills I would have to say this was blocked pretty damn well and he wasn't patient or saw something that wasn't there. The reason why I say that? While it would seem that Stacy is making the correct read based on Cumberland's block, I'd argue that he allowed himself to be suckered by Cumberland's ineffectiveness. This all comes down to who do you trust more, Cumberland, a marginal TE who's blocking isn't up to par or D'Brick, Carpenter and Nick? With Brick reaching across the front of the defender to try and seal or wash him across the line, the defender over Cumberland reads Brick's block and shoots the gap. The easier block would have been for Carpenter to take the man over him instead of asking Brick to make that tougher block, but his assignment is to initially double the NT which allows Mangold to peel off to get the LB, with Colon sealing the opposite side. The design of the play is asking a lot of the OL, but the coaches trust that the players can make it happen. As you can see from the second still, this could have gone for a big gain as it was blocked up really well, rewarding the coaches trust, but Stacy blew it, partly because he possibly misread Cumberland's failed block, but mostly due to a lack of patience and/or shitty vision.
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Post by quantum on Oct 1, 2015 7:59:55 GMT -5
While I agree that the Jets faced a difficult task trying to run against these fronts with little in the way of help in the passing game, and that the OL must share some responsibility as well, the above is all on Zac Stacy. From the stills I would have to say this was blocked pretty damn well and he wasn't patient or saw something that wasn't there. The reason why I say that? While it would seem that Stacy is making the correct read based on Cumberland's block, I'd argue that he allowed himself to be suckered by Cumberland's ineffectiveness. This all comes down to who do you trust more, Cumberland, a marginal TE who's blocking isn't up to par or D'Brick, Carpenter and Nick? With Brick reaching across the front of the defender to try and seal or wash him across the line, the defender over Cumberland reads Brick's block and shoots the gap. The easier block would have been for Carpenter to take the man over him instead of asking Brick to make that tougher block, but his assignment is to initially double the NT which allows Mangold to peel off to get the LB, with Colon sealing the opposite side. The design of the play is asking a lot of the OL, but the coaches trust that the players can make it happen. As you can see from the second still, this could have gone for a big gain as it was blocked up really well, rewarding the coaches trust, but Stacy blew it, partly because he possibly misread Cumberland's failed block, but mostly due to a lack of patience and/or shitty vision. that's some seriously fancy talk right there.
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Post by carlito1171 on Oct 1, 2015 8:52:57 GMT -5
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