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Post by The Tax Returns Are in Kenya on Dec 16, 2015 17:50:28 GMT -5
Neither (And nobody else cares) you wanna tangle, sister??? lol Nein нет non no ਕੋਈ ਵੀ Nee nie hayır |
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Post by gangrene on Dec 16, 2015 20:02:53 GMT -5
Are you presenting your ex-Bristol friend who resettled in Wales...as appropriate burden of proof ? I once knew a one eyed racehorse who could open his stable door with his tongue. Once he opened his own door, he went around the stable yard and let out two or three other horses that he liked. (I have a deep respect for anyone on two or four legs gifted with there tongue.) Does this mean that all horses can open their stable doors with their tongues ? There is a possibility that there are some legitimate English words that your Bristol-moved-to-Wales friend may not use frequently. You may not like Wikipedia .... but I quote " The British Isles are a group of islands off the north-western coast of continental Europe that consist of the islands of Great Britain, Ireland and over six thousand smaller isles." That's a really bad analogy I'm sure you know. If you had said "I've never seen a horse open a door with his tongue so that means it has never happened and never will" that would be more analogous. No I wasn't using her as proof just as one example. You'd think in over ten years she or her husband might have uttered it once. Or, the hundreds of others in the media, workplace, social circles etc. where people from "there" are encountered. I've never heard anybody refer to it that way. And Wikipedia, as a reference for how people speak? Pfffffffft. The horse tongue story was a farcical illustration of your "I once knew a person in Wales who used to lived in Plymouth" logic. She ( we are now including her husband and all their friends here?) represents an accurate sampling of 69.1 million people citizens of these British Isles? I too, like your your friend, am only one person. I lived in the British Isles, for one quarter of a century and did all the things Britons do. The term "British Isles" while not nearly as popular as UK, Britain, Ireland, Scotland Wales... was the only single term to encompass all of the islands both British and Irish. For much of that quarter century a minority of the citizens of a small area of the UK killed each other over ethnic identity. Are we Irish are we British ? Are we Catholic or Protestant? Are we loyal to the Royals or the Virgin Mary? The British Isles is a wonderfully inclusive term. It is a useful non-hating word, given the shared common culture and language between the two countries. |
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Post by The Tax Returns Are in Kenya on Dec 16, 2015 20:08:49 GMT -5
That's a really bad analogy I'm sure you know. If you had said "I've never seen a horse open a door with his tongue so that means it has never happened and never will" that would be more analogous. No I wasn't using her as proof just as one example. You'd think in over ten years she or her husband might have uttered it once. Or, the hundreds of others in the media, workplace, social circles etc. where people from "there" are encountered. I've never heard anybody refer to it that way. And Wikipedia, as a reference for how people speak? Pfffffffft. The horse tongue story was a farcical illustration of your "I once knew a person in Wales who used to lived in Plymouth" logic. She ( we are now including her husband and all their friends here?) represents an accurate sampling of 69.1 million people citizens of these British Isles? I too, like your your friend, am only one person. I lived in the British Isles, for one quarter of a century and did all the things Britons do. The term "British Isles" while not nearly as popular as UK, Britain, Ireland, Scotland Wales... was the only single term to encompass all of the islands both British and Irish. For much of that quarter century a minority of the citizens of a small area of the UK killed each other over ethnic identity. Are we Irish are we British ? Are we Catholic or Protestant? Are we loyal to the Royals or the Virgin Mary? The British Isles is a wonderfully inclusive term. It is a useful non-hating word, given the shared common culture and language between the two countries. No not her friends - all of the hundreds or more likely thousands of Britons I've encountered over my lifetime . She is just one example and I certainly wasn't going to point out every one I've ever met. I'm not sure why you can't understand she's just one example. Because I didn't preface it with "for example this person"? I guess all the people I've met or encountered were all haters. All the Irish people I know (again, a lot) call themselves Irish, not British Islians. Likewise with Scots. . So where exactly are you from that you chose this way to say it? |
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Post by gangrene on Dec 16, 2015 20:52:27 GMT -5
I grew up in Northern Ireland. My Mum was English born, Protestant, my dad Catholic a bank manager held up twice at gunpoint by the IRA to finance their killings. I went to protestant schools, had the shit kicked out of me because I was catholic. Everybody lost somebody and saw too much hate. There is no "British Islian" term as you describe it. I am proud my British and Irish heritage . The British Isles exists and it's a pretty useful term to include people not exclude people based on religion or political loyalties.
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Post by gangrene on Dec 17, 2015 5:18:31 GMT -5
The horse tongue story was a farcical illustration of your "I once knew a person in Wales who used to lived in Plymouth" logic. She ( we are now including her husband and all their friends here?) represents an accurate sampling of 69.1 million people citizens of these British Isles? I too, like your your friend, am only one person. I lived in the British Isles, for one quarter of a century and did all the things Britons do. The term "British Isles" while not nearly as popular as UK, Britain, Ireland, Scotland Wales... was the only single term to encompass all of the islands both British and Irish. For much of that quarter century a minority of the citizens of a small area of the UK killed each other over ethnic identity. Are we Irish are we British ? Are we Catholic or Protestant? Are we loyal to the Royals or the Virgin Mary? The British Isles is a wonderfully inclusive term. It is a useful non-hating word, given the shared common culture and language between the two countries. No not her friends - all of the hundreds or more likely thousands of Britons I've encountered over my lifetime . She is just one example and I certainly wasn't going to point out every one I've ever met. I'm not sure why you can't understand she's just one example. Because I didn't preface it with "for example this person"? I guess all the people I've met or encountered were all haters. All the Irish people I know (again, a lot) call themselves Irish, not British Islians. Likewise with Scots. . So where exactly are you from that you chose this way to say it? My answer above. I think it's clear from your logic beginning with one single friend now several emails later extending your reference to thousands of Britons that you have encountered in your lifetime ... that you don't care about the truth, you simply will care about being right . Enjoy. |
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Post by Harrier on Dec 17, 2015 7:00:54 GMT -5
Rule, Britannia! Britannia, rule the waves!
Britons never, never, never shall be slaves.
When Britain first, at heaven's command,
Arose from out the azure main,
This was the charter of the land,
And Guardian Angels sang this strain:
The nations not so blest as thee
Must, in their turn, to tyrants fall,
While thou shalt flourish great and free:
The dread and envy of them all.
Still more majestic shalt thou rise,
More dreadful from each foreign stroke,
As the loud blast that tears the skies
Serves but to root thy native oak.
Thee haughty tyrants ne'er shall tame;
All their attempts to bend thee down
Will but arouse thy generous flame,
But work their woe and thy renown.
To thee belongs the rural reign;
Thy cities shall with commerce shine;
All thine shall be the subject main,
And every shore it circles, thine.
The Muses, still with freedom found,
Shall to thy happy coasts repair.
Blest isle! with matchless beauty crowned,
And manly hearts to guard the fair.
Rule, Britannia! Britannia, rule the waves!
Britons never, never, never shall be slaves.
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Post by The Tax Returns Are in Kenya on Dec 17, 2015 9:45:50 GMT -5
No not her friends - all of the hundreds or more likely thousands of Britons I've encountered over my lifetime . She is just one example and I certainly wasn't going to point out every one I've ever met. I'm not sure why you can't understand she's just one example. Because I didn't preface it with "for example this person"? I guess all the people I've met or encountered were all haters. All the Irish people I know (again, a lot) call themselves Irish, not British Islians. Likewise with Scots. . So where exactly are you from that you chose this way to say it? My answer above. I think it's clear from your logic beginning with one single friend now several emails later extending your reference to thousands of Britons that you have encountered in your lifetime ... that you don't care about the truth, you simply will care about being right . Enjoy. I'm sorry, Gangrene, that I have never heard anyone say they are from the British Isles before and that you are offended by this. Yes, I do believe I am right that indeed, I've never heard it before but maybe you're right and I really have. And there's no "logic " at work here, it's my personal experience |
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Post by gangrene on Dec 18, 2015 10:41:46 GMT -5
My answer above. I think it's clear from your logic beginning with one single friend now several emails later extending your reference to thousands of Britons that you have encountered in your lifetime ... that you don't care about the truth, you simply will care about being right . Enjoy. I'm sorry, Gangrene, that I have never heard anyone say they are from the British Isles before and that you are offended by this. Yes, I do believe I am right that indeed, I've never heard it before but maybe you're right and I really have. And there's no "logic " at work here, it's my personal experience You know that I am not offended that you have never heard the anyone say they are from the British Isles. You mock my English, because it's not your English. I never, ever suggested it was a popular term. You, as much as it pains you, are not the last word in the English language. It is shared. There are some wonderful legitimate less common, spoken words of the English language, no less legitimate. It's your nature, long obvious, here on The Hampur, to mock other people where possible. Keep up the good work. |
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Post by The Tax Returns Are in Kenya on Dec 19, 2015 14:25:44 GMT -5
I'm sorry, Gangrene, that I have never heard anyone say they are from the British Isles before and that you are offended by this. Yes, I do believe I am right that indeed, I've never heard it before but maybe you're right and I really have. And there's no "logic " at work here, it's my personal experience You know that I am not offended that you have never heard the anyone say they are from the British Isles. You mock my English, because it's not your English. I never, ever suggested it was a popular term. You, as much as it pains you, are not the last word in the English language. It is shared. There are some wonderful legitimate less common, spoken words of the English language, no less legitimate. It's your nature, long obvious, here on The Hampur, to mock other people where possible. Keep up the good work. Wow!  I am so sorry! walking_home_crying-1328 |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2015 16:24:37 GMT -5
I grew up in Northern Ireland. My Mum was English born, Protestant, my dad Catholic a bank manager held up twice at gunpoint by the IRA to finance their killings. I went to protestant schools, had the shit kicked out of me because I was catholic. Everybody lost somebody and saw too much hate. There is no "British Islian" term as you describe it. I am proud my British and Irish heritage . The British Isles exists and it's a pretty useful term to include people not exclude people based on religion or political loyalties. So where do your loyalties lie just wondering since you brought it up? |
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Post by gangrene on Dec 19, 2015 22:08:21 GMT -5
I grew up in Northern Ireland. My Mum was English born, Protestant, my dad Catholic a bank manager held up twice at gunpoint by the IRA to finance their killings. I went to protestant schools, had the shit kicked out of me because I was catholic. Everybody lost somebody and saw too much hate. There is no "British Islian" term as you describe it. I am proud my British and Irish heritage . The British Isles exists and it's a pretty useful term to include people not exclude people based on religion or political loyalties. So where do your loyalties lie just wondering since you brought it up? No loyalties, religion brings bad mojo, as does the legacy of colonialism. The more time has passed since then, the more I think it was all for nothing, the working class with no future and no education (on both sides) dying while the people with money went grouse hunting in land rovers. The movie "71" out now does not take sides - it gives a very accurate window on that time, worth a watch. |
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Post by Harrier on Dec 23, 2015 10:56:52 GMT -5
I'm sorry, Gangrene, that I have never heard anyone say they are from the British Isles before and that you are offended by this. Yes, I do believe I am right that indeed, I've never heard it before but maybe you're right and I really have. And there's no "logic " at work here, it's my personal experience You know that I am not offended that you have never heard the anyone say they are from the British Isles. You mock my English, because it's not your English. I never, ever suggested it was a popular term. You, as much as it pains you, are not the last word in the English language. It is shared. There are some wonderful legitimate less common, spoken words of the English language, no less legitimate. It's your nature, long obvious, here on The Hampur, to mock other people where possible. Keep up the good work. And I thought it was only me that noticed. |
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Post by The Tax Returns Are in Kenya on Dec 23, 2015 12:07:04 GMT -5
Wow I thought the British were supposed to be tough guys.  |
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Post by Jets Things on Dec 23, 2015 12:53:32 GMT -5
Wow I thought the British were supposed to be tough guys. Not the ones from the Isles, anyway. |
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Post by Harrier on Dec 23, 2015 17:52:45 GMT -5
Wow I thought the British were supposed to be tough guys. Wow I thought the British were supposed to be tough guys. Not the ones from the Isles, anyway.  |
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