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Post by Bing© in Buffalo Chairman on Jan 28, 2016 18:28:17 GMT -5
I was 9. We didn't have school that day because of snow. I was really into space stuff and looking forward to watching the launch. It has been something the school had been talking up the weeks before because of Sally Ride. I remember when it happened, running outside to see if I could see it. I really am old...thanks
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Post by jay57 on Jan 28, 2016 18:47:43 GMT -5
I was 20 and was at the Bakery I owned when that happened... Watched it live, as did a lot of you. I made a bunch of Martini's, rolled a few joints and got drunk as fuck in the work area of my business... Drove home hammered....don't know how I gotz there... You owned a Bakery at 20? That's pretty badass, I think, right?
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Post by Bing© in Buffalo Chairman on Jan 28, 2016 18:56:56 GMT -5
I was 20 and was at the Bakery I owned when that happened... Watched it live, as did a lot of you. I made a bunch of Martini's, rolled a few joints and got drunk as fuck in the work area of my business... Drove home hammered....don't know how I gotz there... You owned a Bakery at 20? That's pretty badass, I think, right? [br Actually i was 18 when I bought it with 2 other guys who were 28 and 37, we were working at another Bakery and decided to go out on our own... 31 years later my brother owns half and the middle partner is getting ready to retire soon, and the oldest at the time is retired but comes in to help one day a week and during the holidays... I'm going to buy the half back again in a few years and Manage it...but I won't work those fucked up hours anymore.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2016 19:02:05 GMT -5
What color were Christa McAuliffe's eyes? Blue One blue this way, one blue that way. Yeah, that was one of the jokes at the time.
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Post by Chesapeakejet on Jan 29, 2016 10:23:40 GMT -5
How the fuck is that even remotely relatable? Take the stick out of your ass and lighten up Maybe you're right. It just hit me wrong. Sorry for the drama, shoulda kept my mouth shut.
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Post by porgyman on Jan 29, 2016 11:07:13 GMT -5
You owned a Bakery at 20? That's pretty badass, I think, right? [br Actually i was 18 when I bought it with 2 other guys who were 28 and 37, we were working at another Bakery and decided to go out on our own... 31 years later my brother owns half and the middle partner is getting ready to retire soon, and the oldest at the time is retired but comes in to help one day a week and during the holidays... I'm going to buy the half back again in a few years and Manage it...but I won't work those fucked up hours anymore. It's time to make the donuts....
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Post by BEAC0NJET on Jan 29, 2016 11:22:05 GMT -5
I was 12, almost 13. Like most of the rest of you that were school aged, teacher rolled in the TV on the big stand, everyone was excited to watch. Just a shocking thing at that age.
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Post by Chesapeakejet on Jan 29, 2016 16:37:05 GMT -5
30 Years After Explosion, Challenger Engineer Still Blames Himself
Thirty years ago, as the nation mourned the loss of seven astronauts on the space shuttle Challenger, Bob Ebeling was steeped in his own deep grief. The night before the launch, Ebeling and four other engineers at NASA contractor Morton Thiokol had tried to stop the launch. Their managers and NASA overruled them. That night, he told his wife, Darlene, "It's going to blow up." When Challenger exploded 73 seconds after liftoff, Ebeling and his colleagues sat stunned in a conference room at Thiokol's headquarters outside Brigham City, Utah. They watched the spacecraft explode on a giant television screen and they knew exactly what had happened. Three weeks later, Ebeling and another engineer separately and anonymously detailed to NPR the first account of that contentious pre-launch meeting. Both were despondent and in tears as they described hours of data review and arguments. The data showed that the rubber seals on the shuttle's booster rockets wouldn't seal properly in cold temperatures and this would be the coldest launch ever. Ebeling, now 89, decided to let NPR identify him this time, on the 30th anniversary of the Challenger explosion.
"I was one of the few that was really close to the situation," Ebeling recalls. "Had they listened to me and wait[ed] for a weather change, it might have been a completely different outcome." We spoke in the same house, kitchen and living room that we spoke in 30 years ago, when Ebeling didn't want his name used or his voice recorded. He was afraid he would lose his job. "I think the truth has to come out," he says about the decision to speak privately then. "NASA ruled the launch," he explains. "They had their mind set on going up and proving to the world they were right and they knew what they were doing. But they didn't." A presidential commission found flaws in the space agency's decision-making process. But it's still not clear why NASA was so anxious to launch without delay. The space shuttle program had an ambitious launch schedule that year and NASA wanted to show it could launch regularly and reliably. President Ronald Reagan was also set to deliver the State of the Union address that evening and reportedly planned to tout the Challenger launch. Whatever the reason, Ebeling says it didn't justify the risk. "There was more than enough [NASA officials and Thiokol managers] there to say, 'Hey, let's give it another day or two,' " Ebeling recalls. "But no one did." Ebeling retired soon after Challenger. He suffered deep depression and has never been able to lift the burden of guilt. In 1986, as he watched that haunting image again on a television screen, he said, "I could have done more. I should have done more." He says the same thing today, sitting in a big easy chair in the same living room, his eyes watery and his face grave. The data he and his fellow engineers presented, and their persistent and sometimes angry arguments, weren't enough to sway Thiokol managers and NASA officials. Ebeling concludes he was inadequate. He didn't argue the data well enough. A religious man, this is something he has prayed about for the past 30 years. "I think that was one of the mistakes that God made," Ebeling says softly. "He shouldn't have picked me for the job. But next time I talk to him, I'm gonna ask him, 'Why me. You picked a loser.' " I reminded him of something his late colleague and friend Roger Boisjoly once told me. Boisjoly was the other Thiokol engineer who spoke anonymously with NPR 30 years ago. He came to believe that he and Ebeling and their colleagues did all they could. "We were talking to the right people," Boisjoly told me. "We were talking to the people who had the power to stop that launch." "Maybe," Ebeling says with a weak wave as I leave. "Maybe Roger's right."
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2016 19:20:08 GMT -5
How the fuck is that even remotely relatable? Take the stick out of your ass and lighten up Maybe you're right. It just hit me wrong. Sorry for the drama, shoulda kept my mouth shut. No, you are right.
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Post by Touchable on Jan 29, 2016 19:36:37 GMT -5
Maybe you're right. It just hit me wrong. Sorry for the drama, shoulda kept my mouth shut. No, you are right. Get that sand out of your vajayjay, sally.
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Post by PK on Jan 29, 2016 20:13:56 GMT -5
You owned a Bakery at 20? That's pretty badass, I think, right? [br Actually i was 18 when I bought it with 2 other guys who were 28 and 37, we were working at another Bakery and decided to go out on our own... 31 years later my brother owns half and the middle partner is getting ready to retire soon, and the oldest at the time is retired but comes in to help one day a week and during the holidays... I'm going to buy the half back again in a few years and Manage it...but I won't work those fucked up hours anymore. That's awesome. My first job..which I worked at for 5 years...was at a bakery run by a cantankerous old Jewish lady. Best job ever. The hours were brutal...up every day at 3am, to make bagels. Yummy delicious bagels. I was really good at it though. Enough that she put me in charge of cranking out all the fresh bread every day instead of her son. I would love to do that again. I still have the recipes memorized. Basic stuff.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2016 20:25:43 GMT -5
Get that sand out of your vajayjay, sally. It's an old joke, got any new ones?
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Post by Touchable on Jan 29, 2016 20:29:22 GMT -5
Get that sand out of your vajayjay, sally. It's an old joke, got any new ones? Heard of any new Challenger jokes over the last 3 decades?
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Post by Bing© in Buffalo Chairman on Jan 29, 2016 20:35:26 GMT -5
[br Actually i was 18 when I bought it with 2 other guys who were 28 and 37, we were working at another Bakery and decided to go out on our own... 31 years later my brother owns half and the middle partner is getting ready to retire soon, and the oldest at the time is retired but comes in to help one day a week and during the holidays... I'm going to buy the half back again in a few years and Manage it...but I won't work those fucked up hours anymore. That's awesome. My first job..which I worked at for 5 years...was at a bakery run by a cantankerous old Jewish lady. Best job ever. The hours were brutal...up every day at 3am, to make bagels. Yummy delicious bagels. I was really good at it though. Enough that she put me in charge of cranking out all the fresh bread every day instead of her son. I would love to do that again. I still have the recipes memorized. Basic stuff. I can walk in that place and jump into the production....it's all timing...dough, steam box, oven, cooling, frosting, traying, lots of hard work and the product is superb... Place has been open same location since 1957.
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Post by PK on Jan 29, 2016 21:02:27 GMT -5
That's awesome. My first job..which I worked at for 5 years...was at a bakery run by a cantankerous old Jewish lady. Best job ever. The hours were brutal...up every day at 3am, to make bagels. Yummy delicious bagels. I was really good at it though. Enough that she put me in charge of cranking out all the fresh bread every day instead of her son. I would love to do that again. I still have the recipes memorized. Basic stuff. I can walk in that place and jump into the production....it's all timing...dough, steam box, oven, cooling, frosting, traying, lots of hard work and the product is superb... Place has been open same location since 1957. Cooking bagels at 5am is the best cure for a hangover. Scooping bagels out of a kettle of boiling water and putting them into a 450 degree oven and running into the steam box to grab the next batch will shake anything from the night before off, lol.
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