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Post by Hotman on Dec 23, 2014 16:46:32 GMT -5
that bitch getting all up in a man's grill like that, fair game to get that mouth slapped the fuck shut. Give the bitch a good smack, but take it easy with the arrests. make too many arrests. And yet, hes a good cop who's getting berated and disrespected and NOT getting physical with her and NOT arresting her. The minute she touches him, or spits on him or whatever, time to get locked up. Oh I agree. Like I said, not all bad. The good ones don't mind you filming... |
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Post by quantum on Dec 26, 2014 11:16:27 GMT -5
Don't remember who said it, but "an attack on the police is an attack on society" was absolutely right. And those fucking POS "protesters" (terrorists really) who chant "whose streets? our streets!" BULLSHIT. They're not YOUR streets, they're everyone's streets, and you're a stupid vocal violent minority, so FUCK YOU. Here's a good hashtag: #UseLiveAmmoOnProtestersUh, no. uh YES. pull your head out of your vagina bushy |
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Post by quantum on Dec 26, 2014 11:17:53 GMT -5
There's a place for peaceful protest. Giuliani let people protest, but the city controlled where and when, because they are everyone's streets. He didnt let things get out of control and shut the city down. DeBlasio is a joke, letting protesters try to shut down the Brooklyn Bridge with violence against the NYPD. Fine, maybe its time for the NYPD to look the other way. You want selective policing of "minor crimes", how about none? How about NYC goes all Escape From New York... see how long before they're crying for the police to come back, cause Snake Plissken aint coming. Sadly the city needs a strong Mayor at a critical time, and there's nary a one in sight. Maybe the mayor can do something about preventing cops from killing people for minor crimes or maybe dumasses shouldn't resist arrest. being a mod isnt a license to be a doosh, ya know. |
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Post by The Tax Returns Are in Kenya on Dec 26, 2014 22:49:34 GMT -5
Maybe the mayor can do something about preventing cops from killing people for minor crimes or maybe dumasses shouldn't resist arrest. being a mod isnt a license to be a doosh, ya know. It also doesn't mean I have to relinquish my right to express my opinion, regardless of what you may think of it. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2014 10:48:15 GMT -5
Fuckin Biden, JO Cuomo talk about everything but the man it's all about today fuckin scumbags.
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Post by DDNYjets on Dec 27, 2014 12:03:08 GMT -5
There's a place for peaceful protest. Giuliani let people protest, but the city controlled where and when, because they are everyone's streets. He didnt let things get out of control and shut the city down. DeBlasio is a joke, letting protesters try to shut down the Brooklyn Bridge with violence against the NYPD. Fine, maybe its time for the NYPD to look the other way. You want selective policing of "minor crimes", how about none? How about NYC goes all Escape From New York... see how long before they're crying for the police to come back, cause Snake Plissken aint coming. Sadly the city needs a strong Mayor at a critical time, and there's nary a one in sight. Maybe the mayor can do something about preventing cops from killing people for minor crimes Yeah like not forcing them to arrest people for selling loosies while asking them to only give tickets for marijuana. That would be a nice start but it is never going to happen because of $$$. The mayor himself used the same word you did to describe what Garner did yet he is in the process of filing a federal RICO suit against states that supply people like Garner in an effort to crack down on illegal cigarette sales. Loosies are a BIG deal to city hall b.c they want the tax revenue. He is a hypocrite. Bottom line is this guy is in over his head. Can't have a glorified activist running the biggest city in the world. |
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Post by The Tax Returns Are in Kenya on Dec 27, 2014 12:24:05 GMT -5
Maybe the mayor can do something about preventing cops from killing people for minor crimes Yeah like not forcing them to arrest people for selling loosies while asking them to only give tickets for marijuana. That would be a nice start but it is never going to happen because of $$$. The mayor himself used the same word you did to describe what Garner did yet he is in the process of filing a federal RICO suit against states that supply people like Garner in an effort to crack down on illegal cigarette sales. Loosies are a BIG deal to city hall b.c they want the tax revenue. He is a hypocrite. Bottom line is this guy is in over his head. Can't have a glorified activist running the biggest city in the world. Go ahead and arrest him if warranted - just don't kill the guy in the process |
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Post by DDNYjets on Dec 27, 2014 12:38:56 GMT -5
Yeah like not forcing them to arrest people for selling loosies while asking them to only give tickets for marijuana. That would be a nice start but it is never going to happen because of $$$. The mayor himself used the same word you did to describe what Garner did yet he is in the process of filing a federal RICO suit against states that supply people like Garner in an effort to crack down on illegal cigarette sales. Loosies are a BIG deal to city hall b.c they want the tax revenue. He is a hypocrite. Bottom line is this guy is in over his head. Can't have a glorified activist running the biggest city in the world. Go ahead and arrest him if warranted - just don't kill the guy in the process Seems that everyone agrees that the guys shouldn't have died. The only fork in the road is that some people acknowledge Garner's role in his own death. He puts his hands behind his back, instead of slapping at the cops hands, and he is probably selling loosies in that same spot today. |
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Post by cleatmarks on Dec 27, 2014 13:31:02 GMT -5
Anyone else having a problem with the police continuing to turn their backs? Maybe it's because of my military background but it seems incredibly unprofessional at this point. If they have an issue, protest but when you're on the job, maintain your professional composure.
I have no sympathy for the mayor but when you wear a uniform, you should suppress your political views once you put it on. Even if some prick insults you. Who knows how much the mayor's comments contributed to the recent violence against cops but I suspect the originating incidents have as much if not more to do with the attacks on police and if the mayor's comments are the trigger, what does it say that the police response is to turn their back on those who have disrespected them? How does that change the perception? It's just a big "FU" to those who feel the same way the mayor does. That's an angry response to anger...not very constructive.
It's just an instance of bullying to me. It really isn't a matter the mayor being wrong, it's a matter of professionalism. Do we really want our uniformed people making political statements while in uniform? I don't.
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Post by quantum on Dec 27, 2014 15:31:25 GMT -5
or maybe dumasses shouldn't resist arrest. being a mod isnt a license to be a doosh, ya know. It also doesn't mean I have to relinquish my right to express my opinion, regardless of what you may think of it. true, but that narrative you're perpetuating is so blatantly false that I guess I expect better of you. |
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Post by quantum on Dec 27, 2014 15:34:08 GMT -5
Anyone else having a problem with the police continuing to turn their backs? Maybe it's because of my military background but it seems incredibly unprofessional at this point. If they have an issue, protest but when you're on the job, maintain your professional composure. I have no sympathy for the mayor but when you wear a uniform, you should suppress your political views once you put it on. Even if some prick insults you. Who knows how much the mayor's comments contributed to the recent violence against cops but I suspect the originating incidents have as much if not more to do with the attacks on police and if the mayor's comments are the trigger, what does it say that the police response is to turn their back on those who have disrespected them? How does that change the perception? It's just a big "FU" to those who feel the same way the mayor does. That's an angry response to anger...not very constructive. It's just an instance of bullying to me. It really isn't a matter the mayor being wrong, it's a matter of professionalism. Do we really want our uniformed people making political statements while in uniform? I don't. its not a political statement at all. their commander-in-chief has put them in harm's way, denigrated them, essentially called all the white ones racist and a threat. deBloviator sold them out. |
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Post by axil on Dec 27, 2014 16:01:32 GMT -5
It also doesn't mean I have to relinquish my right to express my opinion, regardless of what you may think of it. true, but that narrative you're perpetuating is so blatantly false that I guess I expect better of you. Which part is false? Ferguson was a grey area, but Gardner's death was black and white. At the very least the cop that killed him should've been convicted of manslaughter and criminal negligence. If i were on the jury i would've voted for murder as he was explicitly informed by Gardner that he was killing him. The other cops surrounding Gardner as the life was choked out of him, should've been at minimum fired, and probable should've been jailed as accomplices. It's very sad that two innocent cops died, but it is far worse that we live in a society where a large percentage of the population can watch a man choke another man to death as he pleads that he can't breathe, and blame primarily the victim for his own death. I think deBlasio has been an outright terrible mayor, however on this issue alone we would win my vote were i allowed to vote (Jersey resident) for his reelection. As to this, i firmly believe that this type of rhetoric contributes more to the deaths of both cops and other people than anything said on the protester side. Cops are regular people. Killing a farmer is not murdering the production of food. Killing a priest is not murdering a piece of heaven, and Killing a cop is not murdering law and order. Cops are not special, and the idea that they are is dangerous to every cop, and everyone who has to interact with them. |
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Post by Jetworks on Dec 27, 2014 20:31:33 GMT -5
Anyone else having a problem with the police continuing to turn their backs? Maybe it's because of my military background but it seems incredibly unprofessional at this point. If they have an issue, protest but when you're on the job, maintain your professional composure. I have no sympathy for the mayor but when you wear a uniform, you should suppress your political views once you put it on. Even if some prick insults you. Who knows how much the mayor's comments contributed to the recent violence against cops but I suspect the originating incidents have as much if not more to do with the attacks on police and if the mayor's comments are the trigger, what does it say that the police response is to turn their back on those who have disrespected them? How does that change the perception? It's just a big "FU" to those who feel the same way the mayor does. That's an angry response to anger...not very constructive. It's just an instance of bullying to me. It really isn't a matter the mayor being wrong, it's a matter of professionalism. Do we really want our uniformed people making political statements while in uniform? I don't. I think they're turning their backs on him is perfectly acceptable, especially if they render a salute first. Also, it was always a bit of a grey area as to whether or not we had to salute someone who wore a suit. Was part of the reason that they started making chiefs wear unis again as opposed to suits. true, but that narrative you're perpetuating is so blatantly false that I guess I expect better of you. Which part is false? Ferguson was a grey area, but Gardner's death was black and white. At the very least the cop that killed him should've been convicted of manslaughter and criminal negligence. If i were on the jury i would've voted for murder as he was explicitly informed by Gardner that he was killing him. The other cops surrounding Gardner as the life was choked out of him, should've been at minimum fired, and probable should've been jailed as accomplices. It's very sad that two innocent cops died, but it is far worse that we live in a society where a large percentage of the population can watch a man choke another man to death as he pleads that he can't breathe, and blame primarily the victim for his own death. I think deBlasio has been an outright terrible mayor, however on this issue alone we would win my vote were i allowed to vote (Jersey resident) for his reelection. As to this, i firmly believe that this type of rhetoric contributes more to the deaths of both cops and other people than anything said on the protester side. Cops are regular people. Killing a farmer is not murdering the production of food. Killing a priest is not murdering a piece of heaven, and Killing a cop is not murdering law and order. Cops are not special, and the idea that they are is dangerous to every cop, and everyone who has to interact with them. Forensics said Ferguson was a black and white situation, where the shooting was entirely justified. The Garner case was a grey area due to the fact that the PO utilized a departmentally illicit chokehold, something that isn't technically illegal. The two innocent cops didn't "die", they were systematically assassinated. Garner died, quite possibly due to the actions of the PO, but make no mistake, his actions precipitated those actions. Killing cops, judges, prosecutors and witnesses is certainly different than killing "regular people." Not sure why you think the other examples you made are analogous to what happens when you kill a person tasked with the upholding the laws of society. Sorry, but that's just obtuse thinking. But if you'd like to refute that and expand on what you said beyond the previous rhetoric, please, I'm all ears. And in loltastic fashion, almost the entire 4th and 5th estates are reporting that "hundreds" of cops turned their backs, lol. To a "person", all the blue I spoke with said pretty much the whole contingent turned their backs in a wave. |
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Post by Ff2 on Dec 28, 2014 11:45:25 GMT -5
true, but that narrative you're perpetuating is so blatantly false that I guess I expect better of you. Which part is false? Ferguson was a grey area, but Gardner's death was black and white. At the very least the cop that killed him should've been convicted of manslaughter and criminal negligence. If i were on the jury i would've voted for murder as he was explicitly informed by Gardner that he was killing him. The other cops surrounding Gardner as the life was choked out of him, should've been at minimum fired, and probable should've been jailed as accomplices. It's very sad that two innocent cops died, but it is far worse that we live in a society where a large percentage of the population can watch a man choke another man to death as he pleads that he can't breathe, and blame primarily the victim for his own death. I think deBlasio has been an outright terrible mayor, however on this issue alone we would win my vote were i allowed to vote (Jersey resident) for his reelection. As to this, i firmly believe that this type of rhetoric contributes more to the deaths of both cops and other people than anything said on the protester side. Cops are regular people. Killing a farmer is not murdering the production of food. Killing a priest is not murdering a piece of heaven, and Killing a cop is not murdering law and order. Cops are not special, and the idea that they are is dangerous to every cop, and everyone who has to interact with them. For the sake of discussion, is the President special? Is a U.S.soldier special? Are attacks on them nothing more than simple acts of violence? |
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Post by Jetworks on Dec 28, 2014 17:50:59 GMT -5
Which part is false? Ferguson was a grey area, but Gardner's death was black and white. At the very least the cop that killed him should've been convicted of manslaughter and criminal negligence. If i were on the jury i would've voted for murder as he was explicitly informed by Gardner that he was killing him. The other cops surrounding Gardner as the life was choked out of him, should've been at minimum fired, and probable should've been jailed as accomplices. It's very sad that two innocent cops died, but it is far worse that we live in a society where a large percentage of the population can watch a man choke another man to death as he pleads that he can't breathe, and blame primarily the victim for his own death. I think deBlasio has been an outright terrible mayor, however on this issue alone we would win my vote were i allowed to vote (Jersey resident) for his reelection. As to this, i firmly believe that this type of rhetoric contributes more to the deaths of both cops and other people than anything said on the protester side. Cops are regular people. Killing a farmer is not murdering the production of food. Killing a priest is not murdering a piece of heaven, and Killing a cop is not murdering law and order. Cops are not special, and the idea that they are is dangerous to every cop, and everyone who has to interact with them. For the sake of discussion, is the President special? Is a U.S.soldier special? Are attacks on them nothing more than simple acts of violence? Exactly the point I was trying to make. I considered using those examples but decided against it, but I thought it may come across as too hyperbolic. You managed to pull it off though. |
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