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Post by thebigragu on Feb 28, 2016 15:03:30 GMT -5
The thing I have a hard time believing is why all of the sudden is Trump supposed to give a shit about the common man, whos jobs he is happy to replace with cheap illegal labor? He's even said he's gonna have the illegals building this waste of a wall... fuckers are just gonna go thru the tunnels like they do all day long. wtf. Marc Rubio insulting trump said he would probably have illegals work on the building of his wall. Trump never said any such thing
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Post by Hotman on Feb 28, 2016 15:06:18 GMT -5
The thing I have a hard time believing is why all of the sudden is Trump supposed to give a shit about the common man, whos jobs he is happy to replace with cheap illegal labor? He's even said he's gonna have the illegals building this waste of a wall... fuckers are just gonna go thru the tunnels like they do all day long. wtf. Marc Rubio insulting trump said he would probably have illegals work on the building of his wall. Trump never said any such thing He strongly insinuated it when he talked about how they'd be paying for it and other statements, i think he's talking out of his ass myself, but I dunno. He's DEFINITELY better than Hillary... that much is no question at all.
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Post by thebigragu on Feb 28, 2016 15:08:57 GMT -5
Marc Rubio insulting trump said he would probably have illegals work on the building of his wall. Trump never said any such thing He strongly insinuated it when he talked about how they'd be paying for it and other statements, i think he's talking out of his ass myself, but I dunno. He's DEFINITELY better than Hillary... that much is no question at all. Trump said HE'S GOING TO HAVE THE MEXICAN GOVERNMENT PAY FOR IT. Not the fucking illegal mexican immigrants. That was what rubio said during a debate insulting trump. YOU SEE HOW THE MEDIA CONTROLS THE SHEEP NOW. DO YOU?
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Post by Hotman on Feb 28, 2016 15:11:44 GMT -5
He strongly insinuated it when he talked about how they'd be paying for it and other statements, i think he's talking out of his ass myself, but I dunno. He's DEFINITELY better than Hillary... that much is no question at all. Trump said HE'S GOING TO HAVE THE MEXICAN GOVERNMENT PAY FOR IT. Not the fucking illegal mexican immigrants. That was what rubio said during a debate insulting trump. YOU SEE HOW THE MEDIA CONTROLS THE SHEEP NOW. DO YOU? Nah that stuff was BS I saw that... Has no bearing on my instinct about Trump. But I also saw how Trump couldn't really say much to it... Thought that was telling. Like he felt busted.
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Post by Hotman on Feb 28, 2016 15:12:17 GMT -5
How you gonna fuckin let Rubio slap you around like that, Trump?!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2016 15:37:14 GMT -5
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Post by Ff2 on Feb 28, 2016 16:06:18 GMT -5
iN what trades did illegals lower the rate of pay in? Bricklayes and allied craftsman Steel workers All aspects of the Back Restaurant industry ie kitchens in small to yuuuge chains mom and pops Electricians Carpenters unions Landscaping was a predominantly italian owned buisness market trade Concrete was a predominantly italian owned buisness trade market Mechanic Shops everywhere. Tire shops everywhere I could go on and on but then you just notice another shiny object Fuck you and your shiney objects. you know what would be a good idea? Unions. But guess who destroyed them.
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Post by 2foolish on Feb 28, 2016 16:29:22 GMT -5
What a bunch of drivel. Who is more fortunate? You? Or, the tens of millions of jobless American Citizens? Not to mention the American citizens whose economic welfare benefits are jeopardized because illegal immigrants cost the government millions in benefits ($15,000 per household in 2010). This Kumbaya shit may make you feel good about yourself, but it completely ignores the reality of it destroying prospects for an economic recovery in the US. I bet you wouldn't feel the same way if you lost your job because your boss wanted to hire an illegal immigrant. Even your "Bible" recognizes this: www.nytimes.com/roomfordebate/2015/01/06/do-immigrants-take-jobs-from-american-born-workers/unskilled-workers-lose-out-to-immigrantsIMO, even if 1 American Citizen loses their job to an illegal immigrant, that is one too many. Perhaps you should start caring about American Citizens as much as you care about illegal immigrants. If the immigrants are such wonderful productive hardworking people, we should make them stay in their own country so they can improve it. Immigration is a red herring issue, there currently is the same amount leaving as entering. and as soon as I see an American pickin out in the field I'll change my opinion. Talk to a farmer anf ask how they feel about immigration. We we need to worry more about ford moving plants to Mexico. That's what's destroying things, not some poor schlub picking oranges. immigrants make an easy target for the undereducated, we need an "other" to blame things on. Ask ford why they moved to Mexico. www.factcheck.org/2010/05/does-immigration-cost-jobs/
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Post by Sonny Werblin on Feb 28, 2016 18:43:46 GMT -5
What a bunch of drivel. Who is more fortunate? You? Or, the tens of millions of jobless American Citizens? Not to mention the American citizens whose economic welfare benefits are jeopardized because illegal immigrants cost the government millions in benefits ($15,000 per household in 2010). This Kumbaya shit may make you feel good about yourself, but it completely ignores the reality of it destroying prospects for an economic recovery in the US. I bet you wouldn't feel the same way if you lost your job because your boss wanted to hire an illegal immigrant. Even your "Bible" recognizes this: www.nytimes.com/roomfordebate/2015/01/06/do-immigrants-take-jobs-from-american-born-workers/unskilled-workers-lose-out-to-immigrantsIMO, even if 1 American Citizen loses their job to an illegal immigrant, that is one too many. Perhaps you should start caring about American Citizens as much as you care about illegal immigrants. If the immigrants are such wonderful productive hardworking people, we should make them stay in their own country so they can improve it. Immigration is a red herring issue, there currently is the same amount leaving as entering. and as soon as I see an American pickin out in the field I'll change my opinion. Talk to a farmer anf ask how they feel about immigration. We we need to worry more about ford moving plants to Mexico. That's what's destroying things, not some poor schlub picking oranges. immigrants make an easy target for the undereducated, we need an "other" to blame things on. Ask ford why they moved to Mexico. www.factcheck.org/2010/05/does-immigration-cost-jobs/Did you really just site 2010 fact check to support your view? Cmon man, you're better than that.
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Post by Ff2 on Feb 28, 2016 19:23:46 GMT -5
Immigration is a red herring issue, there currently is the same amount leaving as entering. and as soon as I see an American pickin out in the field I'll change my opinion. Talk to a farmer anf ask how they feel about immigration. We we need to worry more about ford moving plants to Mexico. That's what's destroying things, not some poor schlub picking oranges. immigrants make an easy target for the undereducated, we need an "other" to blame things on. Ask ford why they moved to Mexico. www.factcheck.org/2010/05/does-immigration-cost-jobs/Did you really just site 2010 fact check to support your view? Cmon man, you're better than that. Why not....immigration hasn't risen a bit since then....this myth that all of a sudden there are more and more coming is just propaganda.
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Post by Sonny Werblin on Feb 28, 2016 21:45:50 GMT -5
Did you really just site 2010 fact check to support your view? Cmon man, you're better than that. Why not....immigration hasn't risen a bit since then....this myth that all of a sudden there are more and more coming is just propaganda.
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Post by thebigragu on Feb 29, 2016 0:48:12 GMT -5
Bricklayes and allied craftsman Steel workers All aspects of the Back Restaurant industry ie kitchens in small to yuuuge chains mom and pops Electricians Carpenters unions Landscaping was a predominantly italian owned buisness market trade Concrete was a predominantly italian owned buisness trade market Mechanic Shops everywhere. Tire shops everywhere I could go on and on but then you just notice another shiny object Fuck you and your shiney objects. you know what would be a good idea? Unions. But guess who destroyed them.Joe Kennedy and his sons for fucking up. Hoffa too
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Post by Ff2 on Feb 29, 2016 9:28:26 GMT -5
Fuck you and your shiney objects. you know what would be a good idea? Unions. But guess who destroyed them.Joe Kennedy and his sons for fucking up. Hoffa too wHo broke the air traffic controllers?
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Post by Ff2 on Feb 29, 2016 9:37:45 GMT -5
Why not....immigration hasn't risen a bit since then....this myth that all of a sudden there are more and more coming is just propaganda. Wow....stop you're scaring all the white people. I was talking about illegals, which ha leveled off. I have to laugh at the rubes in the audience gasping at fantasy figures from a hundred years from now when they all be dead and buried. omg s many immigrants!!!! Never mind that's how the country has been built from day one.
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Post by Sonny Werblin on Feb 29, 2016 9:49:12 GMT -5
Wow....stop you're scaring all the white people. I was talking about illegals, which ha leveled off. I have to laugh at the rubes in the audience gasping at fantasy figures from a hundred years from now when they all be dead and buried. omg s many immigrants!!!! Never mind that's how the country has been built from day one. Don't you like white people? I never felt you were one of those self-loathing new england liberals. How do you know "illegals" have leveled off? By virtue of their illegality they are not really accounted for. Don't get me wrong, I hope you are right, but I would not change my feelings on securing our borders and only allowing "legal" immigration. I think the point is the year after year after year levels of immigration (legal/illegal) are not sustainable. It's like packing people into the Elk's Club reception room after you've far exceeded its maximum capacity.
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