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Post by HawkeyeJet on May 3, 2016 8:52:54 GMT -5
Lots of hand wringing this weekend over not trading back. It takes two to tango.
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Post by carlito1171 on May 3, 2016 8:56:07 GMT -5
It takes 2 to tango for any deal which is why I never understand when fans get mad that a deal wasn't made....
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Post by Harrier on May 3, 2016 9:06:24 GMT -5
Nobody likes us.
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Post by Harrier on May 3, 2016 9:15:01 GMT -5
I don't think Macc and our FO have the respect of other teams just yet, Ozzie was trading around like a man possessed.
Idzik seemed to have the same problem.
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Post by gman on May 3, 2016 9:23:31 GMT -5
I don't think Macc and our FO have the respect of other teams just yet, Ozzie was trading around like a man possessed. Idzik seemed to have the same problem. I don't think respect has anything to do with it. Dallas tried to trade up for our #20, but the Jets didn't like the offer. |
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Post by DDNYjets on May 3, 2016 9:27:28 GMT -5
It takes 2 to tango for any deal which is why I never understand when fans get mad that a deal wasn't made.... I think sometimes fans think it is worth forcing the issue and overpaying for something. Like Jerry Jones said, "When I look back on my life, I overpaid for my big successes every time." Some people believe that. Also sprinkle in the emotion that fans have and I can see why people get pissed when moves arent made. The irony is I think Mac did do this in trading up for Shell and attempting to acquire Tunsil. |
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Post by carlito1171 on May 3, 2016 9:37:01 GMT -5
It takes 2 to tango for any deal which is why I never understand when fans get mad that a deal wasn't made.... I think sometimes fans think it is worth forcing the issue and overpaying for something. Like Jerry Jones said, "When I look back on my life, I overpaid for my big successes every time." Some people believe that. Also sprinkle in the emotion that fans have and I can see why people get pissed when moves arent made. The irony is I think Mac did do this in trading up for Shell and attempting to acquire Tunsil. I agree with this... guess I'm too rational to be a real fan...sigh |
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Post by crossfire on May 3, 2016 9:48:15 GMT -5
I don't think Macc and our FO have the respect of other teams just yet, Ozzie was trading around like a man possessed. Idzik seemed to have the same problem. I don't think respect has anything to do with it. Dallas tried to trade up for our #20, but the Jets didn't like the offer. Obviously the Jets don't respect Jerry.  |
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Post by Harrier on May 3, 2016 9:51:33 GMT -5
I don't think Macc and our FO have the respect of other teams just yet, Ozzie was trading around like a man possessed. Idzik seemed to have the same problem. I don't think respect has anything to do with it. Dallas tried to trade up for our #20, but the Jets didn't like the offer. Just a theory. |
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Post by crossfire on May 3, 2016 9:52:12 GMT -5
Jerry wanted to do a back room deal.  |
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Post by DowNY on May 3, 2016 14:00:55 GMT -5
Glad we didn't trade back just to say we traded back. Stay firm on a good offer.
Quality > Quantity
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Post by mrcoops on May 3, 2016 15:37:14 GMT -5
The trade back attempt before picking Hackenberg probably happened when the Texans were on the clock, in the event that O'Brien took Hack.
The Jets must have thought that O'Brien had jumped them to pick Hack, and then worked the phones to try to get a trade down.
In the end, when the Texans took someone else, it took about 30 seconds for the Jets to turn in the card with Hack's name on it. If they had been looking to trade down there, they would have burned a lot more time than they did.
So, in my view, Hack was always going to be the pick. Only if he was gone were the Jets going to move down.
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2016 16:10:27 GMT -5
I don't think Macc and our FO have the respect of other teams just yet, Ozzie was trading around like a man possessed. Idzik seemed to have the same problem. I don't think respect has anything to do with it. Dallas tried to trade up for our #20, but the Jets didn't like the offer. Agreed, from my understanding, we were only going to gain 1 extra pick from the Dallas trade. They offered their 2nd and 3rd for our 20th. So essentially, it was dropping back approximately 15 spots in exchange for a 3rd round pick. GTFO with that bullshite. |
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Post by The Tax Returns Are in Kenya on May 3, 2016 21:46:31 GMT -5
I don't think respect has anything to do with it. Dallas tried to trade up for our #20, but the Jets didn't like the offer. Agreed, from my understanding, we were only going to gain 1 extra pick from the Dallas trade. They offered their 2nd and 3rd for our 20th. So essentially, it was dropping back approximately 15 spots in exchange for a 3rd round pick. GTFO with that bullshite. If I'm reading the draft value chart correctly, it still would have been short of the 20th pick value even if they had thrown in their 5th round pick. So, yeah |
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Post by Lithfan on May 3, 2016 22:14:48 GMT -5
Agreed, from my understanding, we were only going to gain 1 extra pick from the Dallas trade. They offered their 2nd and 3rd for our 20th. So essentially, it was dropping back approximately 15 spots in exchange for a 3rd round pick. GTFO with that bullshite. If I'm reading the draft value chart, it still would have been short of the 20th pick value even if they had thrown in their 5th round pick. So, yeah I read somewhere that Macc wanted to include an exchange of 4ths in the deal, but Jerry wouldn't go for it. |
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