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Post by The Tax Returns Are in Kenya on Jul 6, 2016 11:51:59 GMT -5
Right - and that goes back to my question - were the cops unjustified in shooting all 100? I'm guessing, no. And why can't you include how many white people (or Hispanic or Asian or whatever) were also unarmed and killed by cops? Are their deaths not as devastating? I never said anything about black white or any color And what a coincidence right after I posted that someone just happened to be shot to death by police
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Post by The Tax Returns Are in Kenya on Jul 6, 2016 12:27:27 GMT -5
Couldn't have said it better:
Mr. Trump’s improvisational response to the conclusion of an F.B.I. investigation against his opponent that had been months in the making illustrated the lingering deficiencies of his skeletal campaign and the lack of high-profile Republicans with foreign policy experience who are willing to speak on his behalf. For many in the party it also was a painful reminder of what could have been — how a different standard-bearer could have capitalized on one of the most difficult days Mrs. Clinton has faced as a candidate. For the Republican establishment, the months since Mr. Trump began closing in on the presidential nomination have been a season of dismay and frustration: Handed a historically weak Democratic opponent to run against, the party’s voters responded by nominating a candidate even more unpopular and toxic than Mrs. Clinton. But
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Post by Trades on Jul 6, 2016 12:32:04 GMT -5
Couldn't have said it better: Mr. Trump’s improvisational response to the conclusion of an F.B.I. investigation against his opponent that had been months in the making illustrated the lingering deficiencies of his skeletal campaign and the lack of high-profile Republicans with foreign policy experience who are willing to speak on his behalf. For many in the party it also was a painful reminder of what could have been — how a different standard-bearer could have capitalized on one of the most difficult days Mrs. Clinton has faced as a candidate. For the Republican establishment, the months since Mr. Trump began closing in on the presidential nomination have been a season of dismay and frustration: Handed a historically weak Democratic opponent to run against, the party’s voters responded by nominating a candidate even more unpopular and toxic than Mrs. Clinton. But Maybe the party should support and help him instead of undermining him and doing Hillary's job for her.
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Post by The Tax Returns Are in Kenya on Jul 6, 2016 12:35:53 GMT -5
Couldn't have said it better: Mr. Trump’s improvisational response to the conclusion of an F.B.I. investigation against his opponent that had been months in the making illustrated the lingering deficiencies of his skeletal campaign and the lack of high-profile Republicans with foreign policy experience who are willing to speak on his behalf. For many in the party it also was a painful reminder of what could have been — how a different standard-bearer could have capitalized on one of the most difficult days Mrs. Clinton has faced as a candidate. For the Republican establishment, the months since Mr. Trump began closing in on the presidential nomination have been a season of dismay and frustration: Handed a historically weak Democratic opponent to run against, the party’s voters responded by nominating a candidate even more unpopular and toxic than Mrs. Clinton. But Maybe the party should support and help him instead of undermining him and doing Hillary's job for her. What does that say about the party? And Tom Brady won't help him either, refusing to speak at the convention
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Post by Trades on Jul 6, 2016 13:06:37 GMT -5
Maybe the party should support and help him instead of undermining him and doing Hillary's job for her. What does that say about the party? And Tom Brady won't help him either, refusing to speak at the convention It says that it is fractured and human just like the Democrats are between Bernie and his followers and Hillary. The biggest difference is Hillary has the media behind her while they do everything they can against Trump. That is the meaning of this political cartoon...
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Post by The Tax Returns Are in Kenya on Jul 6, 2016 13:57:59 GMT -5
What does that say about the party? And Tom Brady won't help him either, refusing to speak at the convention It says that it is fractured and human just like the Democrats are between Bernie and his followers and Hillary. The biggest difference is Hillary has the media behind her while they do everything they can against Trump. That is the meaning of this political cartoon... I guess it doesn't say much for the Donald if he can't do it without them. Oh and BTW that scrutiny and constant airtime trump for during the print is what enabled him to be elected.
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Post by Trades on Jul 6, 2016 14:44:12 GMT -5
It says that it is fractured and human just like the Democrats are between Bernie and his followers and Hillary. The biggest difference is Hillary has the media behind her while they do everything they can against Trump. That is the meaning of this political cartoon... I guess it doesn't say much for the Donald if he can't do it without them. Oh and BTW that scrutiny and constant airtime trump for during the print is what enabled him to be elected. I totally agree with you about the media coverage during the primaries but if you don't think every candidate (and President) is only as good as the team of hundreds behind them then I don't know what to say.
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Post by Ff2 on Jul 6, 2016 15:07:12 GMT -5
This thread and FF2 is a perfect microcosm of what happens in our media. ARE a perfect microcosm. Ill be sure to watch Fox to get my accurate crime stats.
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Post by Ff2 on Jul 6, 2016 15:08:13 GMT -5
What does that say about the party? And Tom Brady won't help him either, refusing to speak at the convention It says that it is fractured and human just like the Democrats are between Bernie and his followers and Hillary. The biggest difference is Hillary has the media behind her while they do everything they can against Trump. That is the meaning of this political cartoon... LOLz...You don t think Trumps wants it just this way? He could stop saying thinks like Hussein wasnt totally a bad guy. Just be quiet for ONE day and let Hilary hang herself. The media prints what sells. "What crazy thingTrump said today" is wonderful clickbait. A detailed story of an investigation is a snoozefest.
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Post by BEAC0NJET on Jul 6, 2016 15:09:34 GMT -5
I guess it doesn't say much for the Donald if he can't do it without them. Oh and BTW that scrutiny and constant airtime trump for during the print is what enabled him to be elected. No candidate does it on their own... and the media are pretty powerful and pretty good at influencing the sheeple.
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Post by BEAC0NJET on Jul 6, 2016 15:14:40 GMT -5
So what you're saying is - in NO circumstances, should a cop use a gun to shoot an unarmed assailant? Yes or no. I am NOT saying that. Did you watch the video...should they have shot him? Yes or No? I can't tell much from that cell phone video at that angle. I also heard they were responding to him brandishing a gun at someone, and I heard he did have a gun. So can we wait until the facts come out before the rush to judgement? It could be bad racist cops, or it could be justifiable. Just on that video, I cant tell 100% either way.
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Post by Ff2 on Jul 6, 2016 15:16:09 GMT -5
I am NOT saying that. Did you watch the video...should they have shot him? Yes or No? I can't tell much from that cell phone video at that angle. I also heard they were responding to him brandishing a gun at someone, and I heard he did have a gun. So can we wait until the facts come out before the rush to judgement? It could be bad racist cops, or it could be justifiable. Just on that video, I cant tell 100% either way. Yes, we pretty much said we need more facts.
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Post by BEAC0NJET on Jul 6, 2016 15:21:41 GMT -5
Right - and that goes back to my question - were the cops unjustified in shooting all 100? I'm guessing, no. And why can't you include how many white people (or Hispanic or Asian or whatever) were also unarmed and killed by cops? Are their deaths not as devastating? Cops have killed 2x more white people than black people since 1999 or so. Numbers without context are fun! Dillon Taylor probably wishes, were he alive, that a black cop didnt shoot him. Dillon was white and unarmed. At the end of the day, there's good cops and bad cops. The nature of the job means that at times people are shot and killed, sometimes justifiably, sometimes not. It has to be judged on a case by case basis, not by generalities.
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Post by DDNYjets on Jul 6, 2016 15:53:51 GMT -5
This thread and FF2 is a perfect microcosm of what happens in our media. ARE a perfect microcosm. Ill be sure to watch Fox to get my accurate crime stats. those quotes I took where literally from the first page of that site. And Fox uses the FBI stats, which tell the real story. Not people that got hit by cop cars.
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Post by Ff2 on Jul 6, 2016 15:55:34 GMT -5
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