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Post by JetRepulsion1 on Aug 25, 2016 17:22:33 GMT -5
The media is supposed to be unbiased and there is supposed to be a Chinese wall between editorial (i.e. News) and advertising or the corporate side dumby. In addition, media outlets have actually been hiring reporters to cover fake BS like gender equality and diversity issues as this is somehow now a regular "beat" worthy of a full time reporter's attention. This is why we now have daily articles about these lies. You're in a dream world with this unbiased stuff "dumby." Read up on William Randolph Hearst. You're only upset because liberal media outnumber conservative media. If it was the other way around you wouldn't give 2 shits be honest. Hearst was trying to sell newspapers. It also wasn't a very ethical thing to do, but that's why it was called "yellow journalism" and has been pretty much universally reviled as a bad thing that happened in the past.. The media today tries to sell itself as being impartial when they are anything but that. Today's liberal media and university professorsIt are trying to brainwash an entire generation. They've succeeded which is why generation snowflake can't read Tom Sawyer without becoming so emotionally distraught that they need to seek therapy from a school counselor.
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Post by Ff2 on Aug 25, 2016 17:26:06 GMT -5
You're in a dream world with this unbiased stuff "dumby." Read up on William Randolph Hearst. You're only upset because liberal media outnumber conservative media. If it was the other way around you wouldn't give 2 shits be honest. Hearst was trying to sell newspapers. It also wasn't a very ethical thing to do, but that's why it was called "yellow journalism" and has been pretty much universally reviled as a bad thing that happened in the past.. The media today tries to sell itself as being impartial when they are anything but that. Today's liberal media and university professorsIt are trying to brainwash an entire generation. They've succeeded which is why generation snowflake can't read Tom Sawyer without becoming so emotionally distraught that they need to seek therapy from a school counselor. And today people are looking for clicks...everything old is new again. Again, if they spouted YOUR beliefs, I doubt you would have a problem with it.
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Post by JetRepulsion1 on Aug 25, 2016 17:27:07 GMT -5
I am open minded and do not try to silence those with opposing views like the PC brigade. I use facts, my intellect and experience whereas you use the PC playbook to try to silence the opposition by saying we are racist or whatever. At some point I just stop arguing though because as my dad used to say "you can't argue with an idiot." If you use your intellect I haven't really seen it. And it might help if you didn't say things like... "That dumb ignorant brain washed fuck who rode his fathers coatails can suck my fucking dick." That doesn't really scream out "facts" or "intellect." Just a suggestion. Also telling me to"crawl back under that rock" or "really sick in the head" doesn't seem open minded. I actually believe that my sentence about Cuomo was perfectly fitting for the tone and temperament of the delicate point I was trying to get across. At least during that particular exchange of ideas. My apologies if I offended your sensibilities.
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Post by JetRepulsion1 on Aug 25, 2016 17:29:53 GMT -5
Hearst was trying to sell newspapers. It also wasn't a very ethical thing to do, but that's why it was called "yellow journalism" and has been pretty much universally reviled as a bad thing that happened in the past.. The media today tries to sell itself as being impartial when they are anything but that. Today's liberal media and university professorsIt are trying to brainwash an entire generation. They've succeeded which is why generation snowflake can't read Tom Sawyer without becoming so emotionally distraught that they need to seek therapy from a school counselor. And today people are looking for clicks...everything old is new again. Again, if they spouted YOUR beliefs, I doubt you would have a problem with it. MSNBC and CNN have abysmal ratings. They are not spewing their leftist propaganda to get clicks. They are trying to impart their liberal beliefs on the electorate.
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Post by DDNYjets on Aug 25, 2016 17:48:44 GMT -5
nypost.com/2016/08/25/hln-drops-dr-drew/HLN drops "Dr. Drew" Im sure him raising questions about the care Hillary is receiving from her doctors had nothing to do with it. HLN, owned by CNN, owned by TBS ... Ted Turner a huge Clinton supporter. Conspiracy you say? Not for nothing but Dr. Drew gave some real wrong medical info out on Thyroid problems. He criticized what doctors were treating Hillary with but it's a very effective treatment. Don't know if thats a fireable offense but he never even corrected it. He should stick with celebrity drug addicts and un-wed mothers. Dr. Phil is the guy you ned to trust! I am not sure if you listened to the interview he gave but I actually did. He prefaced everything by saying it is just his opinion based on the information her doctors provided and that obviously he can't make a diagnosis on someone that isn't his patient. All he did was discuss her medical issues with the blood clots and how some of the medications she is prescribed can actually make that worse. Also said that there are more modern medications that are safer than the ones she takes for her thyroid and blood thinning.
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Post by DDNYjets on Aug 25, 2016 17:52:38 GMT -5
Im not going to say people aren't entitled to their opinions... And Trump is the worst major party candidate by FAR...ever. Thats a very absolute statement by a person that is usually measured. Interested to hear why you believe this and what you feel disqualifies him. And please be specific so I can give you a proper rebuttal.
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Post by The Tax Returns Are in Kenya on Aug 25, 2016 20:30:23 GMT -5
Maybe he's never made a friendly expression in his life? I didn't see him smile once in his playdoh handing out flood photo op video
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Post by Raoul Duke on Aug 26, 2016 1:21:31 GMT -5
Maybe he's never made a friendly expression in his life? I didn't see him smile once in his playdoh handing out flood photo op video I don't like him either but you can put a neutral picture that doesn't make him look like a psycho. Like someone else said, other papers probably do it with Hillary too.
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Post by Ff2 on Aug 26, 2016 9:03:22 GMT -5
Not for nothing but Dr. Drew gave some real wrong medical info out on Thyroid problems. He criticized what doctors were treating Hillary with but it's a very effective treatment. Don't know if thats a fireable offense but he never even corrected it. He should stick with celebrity drug addicts and un-wed mothers. Dr. Phil is the guy you ned to trust! I am not sure if you listened to the interview he gave but I actually did. He prefaced everything by saying it is just his opinion based on the information her doctors provided and that obviously he can't make a diagnosis on someone that isn't his patient. All he did was discuss her medical issues with the blood clots and how some of the medications she is prescribed can actually make that worse. Also said that there are more modern medications that are safer than the ones she takes for her thyroid and blood thinning. My brother told me he is on that so called "old" treatment. He can't tolerate the newer drugs,,,which by the way are VERY expensive. Point being, every case is unique and without knowing her complete history or personally examining her, he was foolish to offer up an opinion. No ethical doctor does that. BTW, he also said things about Trump which we equally silly: But he did concede that Trump is showing signs of mental instability.“The question, though, is, are some of the reckless qualities that everyone is getting so disturbed about on the campaign going to be translated into office should he get elected? That’s a pretty hard thing to predict. I don’t know if this is just somebody playing politics, or is this somebody who really can’t contain their impulses? When I hear people that are impulsive with their speech, I worry about hypomania and bipolar types of conditions.” Pinsky then went on to question the mental health of Trump’s supporters, who seem to support him no matter what he says or does. “What’s more fascinating to me, Don, is not him but his supporters that seem to not be concerned about any of this. That, to me, is fascinating. As always, what is up with us? Let’s just assume that most people that would choose to be in a very high-profile race like this would have narcissistic tendencies, and there’s something called sort of narcissistic injury, then narcissistic rage. If you injure — if you really shame somebody — they tend to be sort of teflon when it comes to shame. If you shame them, they can react with extreme aggression and extreme rage. So this seems to be that kind of a psychological process.”
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Post by DDNYjets on Aug 26, 2016 9:22:35 GMT -5
I am not sure if you listened to the interview he gave but I actually did. He prefaced everything by saying it is just his opinion based on the information her doctors provided and that obviously he can't make a diagnosis on someone that isn't his patient. All he did was discuss her medical issues with the blood clots and how some of the medications she is prescribed can actually make that worse. Also said that there are more modern medications that are safer than the ones she takes for her thyroid and blood thinning. My brother told me he is on that so called "old" treatment. He can't tolerate the newer drugs,,,which by the way are VERY expensive. Point being, every case is unique and without knowing her complete history or personally examining her, he was foolish to offer up an opinion. No ethical doctor does that. BTW, he also said things about Trump which we equally silly: But he did concede that Trump is showing signs of mental instability.“The question, though, is, are some of the reckless qualities that everyone is getting so disturbed about on the campaign going to be translated into office should he get elected? That’s a pretty hard thing to predict. I don’t know if this is just somebody playing politics, or is this somebody who really can’t contain their impulses? When I hear people that are impulsive with their speech, I worry about hypomania and bipolar types of conditions.” Pinsky then went on to question the mental health of Trump’s supporters, who seem to support him no matter what he says or does. “What’s more fascinating to me, Don, is not him but his supporters that seem to not be concerned about any of this. That, to me, is fascinating. As always, what is up with us? Let’s just assume that most people that would choose to be in a very high-profile race like this would have narcissistic tendencies, and there’s something called sort of narcissistic injury, then narcissistic rage. If you injure — if you really shame somebody — they tend to be sort of teflon when it comes to shame. If you shame them, they can react with extreme aggression and extreme rage. So this seems to be that kind of a psychological process.” Both times Ive seen him speak about the candidates he has always prefaced it with the necessary and obvious caveats. I have no problem with what he said about Hillary or Trump although I do think a candidates physical health is much easier to discuss and give a fair opinion on. Its much harder to see inside someone's head. If Hillary is having issues with clots and dizziness I think it is very relevant. I have many family members with hypothyroidism to I am aware of how it can effect not only the physical but the mental. She has taken a lot of days off. I dont think questioning that is out of bounds. We had similar discussions about John McCain. And in my opinion every politician has narcissistic traits. Especially those that have the nerve to run for president.
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Post by Ff2 on Aug 26, 2016 9:24:03 GMT -5
And Trump is the worst major party candidate by FAR...ever. Thats a very absolute statement by a person that is usually measured. Interested to hear why you believe this and what you feel disqualifies him. And please be specific so I can give you a proper rebuttal. Nothing disqualifies him. But I think he is so uninformed on issues, especially internationally. And shows no interest in actually learning about them. He lacks the temperment to handle nuanced situations. He's openly asked why we cant nuke someone. I think he offers up over simplistic solutions to extremely complicated situations. He has no true convictions, he will say anything to anyone in front of him. Hes already softening on immigration. His biggest claim...building a wall and having Mexicans pay...is just so silly. Things like: "I'll stop murders in Chicago in one week, by tougher policing" Its just all hit air. The president has no police power in a city. Now, that wouldn't all be so bad if he had the ability to hire smart people around him. But he's now on his 3rd or 4th campaign team and many of his spokespeople seem as ignorant as him. He cant even hire experienced administration because none of them want to work for him. It would be a full team of rookies and I think that dangerous. Now...you return the favor and tell me why you think he'd make a good president. Bonus points if you can do it without mentioning Hilary. Look, I know what she is and Ill have to hold my nose when I punch the chad, but Im looking forward. I simply feel as if she is better equipped. She would have an instant experienced team in place. If you cant vote for her because of emails, Benghazi or the foundation I can understand that. But to me, I have to chose between the 2 I have to go with her. Not because I think she's great, because I think Trump would be a disaster. I also understand the point of getting all the corrupt folks out...doing away with politics as usually. Get someone else other than a career public hack in there. And Id be on board if it wasn't someone like Trump. Great sentiment but wrong candidate. Maybe he has shown others an alternate path, you dont need to suck up to the party. I just wish there was a better candidate in his spot.
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Post by Mond the Bagnificient on Aug 26, 2016 9:28:12 GMT -5
Thats a very absolute statement by a person that is usually measured. Interested to hear why you believe this and what you feel disqualifies him. And please be specific so I can give you a proper rebuttal. Nothing disqualifies him. But I think he is so uninformed on issues, especially internationally. And shows no interest in actually learning about them. He lacks the temperment to handle nuanced situations. He's openly asked why we cant nuke someone. I think he offers up over simplistic solutions to extremely complicated situations. He has no true convictions, he will say anything to anyone in front of him. Hes already softening on immigration. His biggest claim...building a wall and having Mexicans pay...is just so silly. Things like: "I'll stop murders in Chicago in one week, by tougher policing" Its just all hit air. The president has no police power in a city. Now, that wouldn't all be so bad if he had the ability to hire smart people around him. But he's now on his 3rd or 4th campaign team and many of his spokespeople seem as ignorant as him. He cant even hire experienced administration because none of them want to work for him. It would be a full team of rookies and I think that dangerous. Now...you return the favor and tell me why you think he'd make a good president. Bonus points if you can do it without mentioning Hilary. Look, I know what she is and Ill have to hold my nose when I punch the chad, but Im looking forward. I simply feel as if she is better equipped. She would have an instant experienced team in place. If you cant vote for her because of emails, Benghazi or the foundation I can understand that. But to me, I have to chose between the 2 I have to go with her. Not because I think she's great, because I think Trump would be a disaster. I also understand the point of getting all the corrupt folks out...doing away with politics as usually. Get someone else other than a career public hack in there. And Id be on board if it wasn't someone like Trump. Great sentiment but wrong candidate. Maybe he has shown others an alternate path, you dont need to suck up to the party. I just wish there was a better candidate in his spot. I feel sick... I actually agree 100% with this post (except for the part where I vote for Hillary.. I'm voting for neither I think). Kill me!
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Post by Ff2 on Aug 26, 2016 9:32:26 GMT -5
Nothing disqualifies him. But I think he is so uninformed on issues, especially internationally. And shows no interest in actually learning about them. He lacks the temperment to handle nuanced situations. He's openly asked why we cant nuke someone. I think he offers up over simplistic solutions to extremely complicated situations. He has no true convictions, he will say anything to anyone in front of him. Hes already softening on immigration. His biggest claim...building a wall and having Mexicans pay...is just so silly. Things like: "I'll stop murders in Chicago in one week, by tougher policing" Its just all hit air. The president has no police power in a city. Now, that wouldn't all be so bad if he had the ability to hire smart people around him. But he's now on his 3rd or 4th campaign team and many of his spokespeople seem as ignorant as him. He cant even hire experienced administration because none of them want to work for him. It would be a full team of rookies and I think that dangerous. Now...you return the favor and tell me why you think he'd make a good president. Bonus points if you can do it without mentioning Hilary. Look, I know what she is and Ill have to hold my nose when I punch the chad, but Im looking forward. I simply feel as if she is better equipped. She would have an instant experienced team in place. If you cant vote for her because of emails, Benghazi or the foundation I can understand that. But to me, I have to chose between the 2 I have to go with her. Not because I think she's great, because I think Trump would be a disaster. I also understand the point of getting all the corrupt folks out...doing away with politics as usually. Get someone else other than a career public hack in there. And Id be on board if it wasn't someone like Trump. Great sentiment but wrong candidate. Maybe he has shown others an alternate path, you dont need to suck up to the party. I just wish there was a better candidate in his spot. I feel sick... I actually agree 100% with this post (except for the part where I vote for Hillary.. I'm voting for neither I think). Kill me! I'll make you a deal. I'll stay home election day if you do. We cancel each other out and save time. (My parents used to do this)
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Post by Mond the Bagnificient on Aug 26, 2016 9:34:58 GMT -5
I feel sick... I actually agree 100% with this post (except for the part where I vote for Hillary.. I'm voting for neither I think). Kill me! I'll make you a deal. I'll stay home election day if you do. We cancel each other out and save time. (My parents used to do this) Can't, I want to show my oldest kid what it's like to vote. I told her she can pick the candidate... (or write her Father in for President!)
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Post by Ff2 on Aug 26, 2016 9:47:26 GMT -5
I'll make you a deal. I'll stay home election day if you do. We cancel each other out and save time. (My parents used to do this) Can't, I want to show my oldest kid what it's like to vote. I told her she can pick the candidate... (or write her Father in for President!) Just for kicks show her how you can go through the line 5 or 6 times!
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