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Post by DDNYjets on Aug 23, 2016 9:42:39 GMT -5
well it looks like early voting is very popular but lots of places (*like NC GOP) are trying to get rid of it or already have taken steps Noooo...its the leftist media silly girl. It is. There are two cable networks that lean right. Both are pro-ID. All of the major broadcast networks and the remaining cable networks are all left. And I mean left, not liberal. There is a difference. FOX News has about 3 million viewers. CBS, NBC, ABC, CNN, MSNBC have about 25-30 million between them. And thats not even counting PBS, Univision or BBC. The narrative that only Republicans favor voter suppression is a false narrative. Just because the major networks spew it doesn't make it true. |
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Post by rangerous on Aug 23, 2016 10:02:45 GMT -5
okay ff2. since you want something that can't be quatified. how many aborted kids could have grown up to be patsie fans? think about this for a minute or two. the libtards are okay with bringing in millions of illegals per year but aren't so concerned about the 300K or so kids flushed down the toilet. and please don't give me this drivel about those kids only being born to crack mothers or the like. the abortions are going to follow whatever cultural norms we have which mean they are mostly from middle class white women. i think the social cost of raising these kids has been greatly overstated. and don't get me wrong, i do think there are some darn good reasons for abortion such as rape or a seriously mal formed fetus or other things that will certainly impose severe limitations on a normal life. You sure about that? well, i'd say that just speaks to the availability of contraception or the morning after pill to middle and wealthy women. regardless, this really doesn't have a thing to do with the whole idea that the costs of these potential children are enormous and somehow serve as a back handed way to allow illegals in. also note that i am not advocating that abortion be eliminated, just that the process does kill citizens and i would hazard that the illegals take far more of our welfare handouts than do these potential children. There are waiting lines for couples who want to adopt and these adoptive parents are usually fairly wealthy and can afford the pay for a child's upkeep. |
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Post by rangerous on Aug 23, 2016 10:06:53 GMT -5
Noooo...its the leftist media silly girl. It is. There are two cable networks that lean right. Both are pro-ID. All of the major broadcast networks and the remaining cable networks are all left. And I mean left, not liberal. There is a difference. FOX News has about 3 million viewers. CBS, NBC, ABC, CNN, MSNBC have about 25-30 million between them. And thats not even counting PBS, Univision or BBC. The narrative that only Republicans favor voter suppression is a false narrative. Just because the major networks spew it doesn't make it true. i really don't see why this is an issue. in commie CT we need to show ID to vote. period. Why can't this be the same elsewhere is beyond me. Also, we should not have early voting or even absentee. Absentee is certainly valid for troops and others who work out of the country. But not because it conflicts with a person's vacation or such. and we could easily have a national holiday for voting. end of problem. scratch a liberal and you'll find a nazi. |
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Post by rangerous on Aug 23, 2016 10:12:44 GMT -5
okay ff2. since you want something that can't be quatified. how many aborted kids could have grown up to be patsie fans? think about this for a minute or two. the libtards are okay with bringing in millions of illegals per year but aren't so concerned about the 300K or so kids flushed down the toilet. and please don't give me this drivel about those kids only being born to crack mothers or the like. the abortions are going to follow whatever cultural norms we have which mean they are mostly from middle class white women. i think the social cost of raising these kids has been greatly overstated. and don't get me wrong, i do think there are some darn good reasons for abortion such as rape or a seriously mal formed fetus or other things that will certainly impose severe limitations on a normal life. I think your slightly off topic here but whatev. Look, Its rather simple. Abortions mostly are done on young women who cant afford to bring up a kid and don't have a stable man to be father. And thats recipe for disaster. The social cost of unwanted babies is ENORMOUS. To say otherwise is folly. Every abortion means one less welfare Mom. you know what, imo these "facts" aren't facts at all but some position argument by groups like planned parenthood. again, why is it okay to allow 1 million illegals into this country when it's okay to flush 300 k citizens down the toilet through abortion? it isn't. and don't forget the social cost of those 1 million illegals. as for the potential babies, i would agree except there are lots of parents who are in adoption lines waiting to adopt kids from all over when we have thouseands of unwanted babies right here. now i will agree that we don't need more people on the welfare roles and i will also agree that there should be abortions in many cases like if the baby is unviable or rape etc. but you can't have position where you take it one way and not the other. |
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Post by Ff2 on Aug 23, 2016 10:59:28 GMT -5
I think your slightly off topic here but whatev. Look, Its rather simple. Abortions mostly are done on young women who cant afford to bring up a kid and don't have a stable man to be father. And thats recipe for disaster. The social cost of unwanted babies is ENORMOUS. To say otherwise is folly. Every abortion means one less welfare Mom. you know what, imo these "facts" aren't facts at all but some position argument by groups like planned parenthood. again, why is it okay to allow 1 million illegals into this country when it's okay to flush 300 k citizens down the toilet through abortion? it isn't. and don't forget the social cost of those 1 million illegals. as for the potential babies, i would agree except there are lots of parents who are in adoption lines waiting to adopt kids from all over when we have thouseands of unwanted babies right here. now i will agree that we don't need more people on the welfare roles and i will also agree that there should be abortions in many cases like if the baby is unviable or rape etc. but you can't have position where you take it one way and not the other. A clump of cells in a woman's body does not equal an illegal immigrant. I don't even know why you are trying to force a comparison. Now, if an unwed teenage Mom has to support this immigrant your argument would make sense. Or if the clump of cells could pick oranges. |
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Post by Ff2 on Aug 23, 2016 11:01:23 GMT -5
It is. There are two cable networks that lean right. Both are pro-ID. All of the major broadcast networks and the remaining cable networks are all left. And I mean left, not liberal. There is a difference. FOX News has about 3 million viewers. CBS, NBC, ABC, CNN, MSNBC have about 25-30 million between them. And thats not even counting PBS, Univision or BBC. The narrative that only Republicans favor voter suppression is a false narrative. Just because the major networks spew it doesn't make it true. i really don't see why this is an issue. in commie CT we need to show ID to vote. period. Why can't this be the same elsewhere is beyond me. Do a little reading about the history of Jim Crow and the poll tax. |
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Post by southparkcpa on Aug 23, 2016 11:07:10 GMT -5
you know what, imo these "facts" aren't facts at all but some position argument by groups like planned parenthood. again, why is it okay to allow 1 million illegals into this country when it's okay to flush 300 k citizens down the toilet through abortion? it isn't. and don't forget the social cost of those 1 million illegals. as for the potential babies, i would agree except there are lots of parents who are in adoption lines waiting to adopt kids from all over when we have thouseands of unwanted babies right here. now i will agree that we don't need more people on the welfare roles and i will also agree that there should be abortions in many cases like if the baby is unviable or rape etc. but you can't have position where you take it one way and not the other. A clump of cells in a woman's body does not equal an illegal immigrant. I don't even know why you are trying to force a comparison. Now, if an unwed teenage Mom has to support this immigrant your argument would make sense. Or if the clump of cells could pick oranges. He made a valid point. A "clump of cells" as you say? thats liberal speak. Perhaps at week 4, but at that point, the woman doesnt realize she's pregnant. By the time she knows and decides its 6-8 weeks. Google images of a 6 to 9 week fetus. DO IT. Thats an identifiable body, like it or not and I am pro choice. But thats not a clump of cells. His immigration point? Also extremely valid. Example.... we have a medicaid dental practice in my office building and "these people" come here, cant speak a lick of english , have multiple children and they are getting free health care. You should see the waiting room of this place. Its one of 10,000 clinics just like it across the country. WE ALL are paying for this enormous social cost. |
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Post by Mond the Bagnificient on Aug 23, 2016 12:20:51 GMT -5
1. We should flush more fetuses down the toilet - do you know how much it is to raise unwanted kids? Or the fact that I'm sure, many unwanted kids end up being losers in society - criminals, drug users, etc.?
2. Hospitals should demand to see a SS# when you check into a hospital (or a green card, visa, passport if you're visiting from another country) - no SS#, you don't get admitted to the hospital unless you bring CASH.
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Post by Ff2 on Aug 23, 2016 12:48:33 GMT -5
1. We should flush more fetuses down the toilet - do you know how much it is to raise unwanted kids? Or the fact that I'm sure, many unwanted kids end up being losers in society - criminals, drug users, etc.? 2. Hospitals should demand to see a SS# when you check into a hospital (or a green card, visa, passport if you're visiting from another country) - no SS#, you don't get admitted to the hospital unless you bring CASH. Yes, we should leave people to die on the curb. |
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Post by Ff2 on Aug 23, 2016 12:49:57 GMT -5
A clump of cells in a woman's body does not equal an illegal immigrant. I don't even know why you are trying to force a comparison. Now, if an unwed teenage Mom has to support this immigrant your argument would make sense. Or if the clump of cells could pick oranges. He made a valid point. A "clump of cells" as you say? thats liberal speak. Perhaps at week 4, but at that point, the woman doesnt realize she's pregnant. By the time she knows and decides its 6-8 weeks. Google images of a 6 to 9 week fetus. DO IT. Thats an identifiable body, like it or not and I am pro choice. But thats not a clump of cells. His immigration point? Also extremely valid. Example.... we have a medicaid dental practice in my office building and "these people" come here, cant speak a lick of english , have multiple children and they are getting free health care. You should see the waiting room of this place. Its one of 10,000 clinics just like it across the country. WE ALL are paying for this enormous social cost. If you think that then why the hell do you want MORE babies we all pay for? |
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Post by Mond the Bagnificient on Aug 23, 2016 12:52:44 GMT -5
1. We should flush more fetuses down the toilet - do you know how much it is to raise unwanted kids? Or the fact that I'm sure, many unwanted kids end up being losers in society - criminals, drug users, etc.? 2. Hospitals should demand to see a SS# when you check into a hospital (or a green card, visa, passport if you're visiting from another country) - no SS#, you don't get admitted to the hospital unless you bring CASH. Yes, we should leave people to die on the curb. They are criminals and shouldn't be here anyway. If they want help, send them on a bus/train/boat back to where they are from. No sympathy, no empathy. Yes, LET THEM DIE ON THE CURB. |
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Post by southparkcpa on Aug 23, 2016 13:57:01 GMT -5
He made a valid point. A "clump of cells" as you say? thats liberal speak. Perhaps at week 4, but at that point, the woman doesnt realize she's pregnant. By the time she knows and decides its 6-8 weeks. Google images of a 6 to 9 week fetus. DO IT. Thats an identifiable body, like it or not and I am pro choice. But thats not a clump of cells. His immigration point? Also extremely valid. Example.... we have a medicaid dental practice in my office building and "these people" come here, cant speak a lick of english , have multiple children and they are getting free health care. You should see the waiting room of this place. Its one of 10,000 clinics just like it across the country. WE ALL are paying for this enormous social cost. If you think that then why the hell do you want MORE babies we all pay for? I dont, you missed the point of course.  Its not what I think that is debated here. I am pro choice (as apparently you are). I simply wont hide behind the fact (hypocricy) that abortion is the removal of a "lump of cells". It is not. It is closer to murder than a medical procedure for most abortions. Did you google the image of an 8 week fetus??? Secondly... the economic burden on this "pais" for the lack of borders is unheard of in any other nation. We need better immigration control. Its that simple. Why it is our responsibility to provide health care, dental, food stamps, housing allowance and free education for a person who simply walks across the border is a bit mind boggling. |
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Post by DDNYjets on Aug 23, 2016 15:50:22 GMT -5
LOLs
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Post by DDNYjets on Aug 23, 2016 17:09:59 GMT -5
Don't worry. Nothing to see there. Trump raised rent on himself. Much bigger scandal.
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Post by JetRepulsion1 on Aug 24, 2016 9:48:51 GMT -5
you know what, imo these "facts" aren't facts at all but some position argument by groups like planned parenthood. again, why is it okay to allow 1 million illegals into this country when it's okay to flush 300 k citizens down the toilet through abortion? it isn't. and don't forget the social cost of those 1 million illegals. as for the potential babies, i would agree except there are lots of parents who are in adoption lines waiting to adopt kids from all over when we have thouseands of unwanted babies right here. now i will agree that we don't need more people on the welfare roles and i will also agree that there should be abortions in many cases like if the baby is unviable or rape etc. but you can't have position where you take it one way and not the other. A clump of cells in a woman's body does not equal an illegal immigrant. I don't even know why you are trying to force a comparison. Now, if an unwed teenage Mom has to support this immigrant your argument would make sense. Or if the clump of cells could pick oranges. Does that include partial birth abortion that your friendly short haired man-hating fucks at planned parenthood say is every woman's right? People who toe the planned parenthood line (especially men like you) are a wusses to the millionith degree, bowing down to their lying feminist overlords. I guess whatever though. I never understood how partial birth abortion the day before birth is OK somehow, but a girl who throws her baby out day of in the dumpster at her prom is charged with murder. It's pretty much exactly the same thing. But whatever, the liberal media and planned parenthood are sticking to their big lie and you choose to believe it. |
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Its not what I think that is debated here. I am pro choice (as apparently you are). I simply wont hide behind the fact (hypocricy) that abortion is the removal of a "lump of cells". It is not. It is closer to murder than a medical procedure for most abortions. Did you google the image of an 8 week fetus??? Secondly... the economic burden on this "pais" for the lack of borders is unheard of in any other nation. We need better immigration control. Its that simple. Why it is our responsibility to provide health care, dental, food stamps, housing allowance and free education for a person who simply walks across the border is a bit mind boggling.