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Post by Hotman on Dec 28, 2014 17:58:44 GMT -5
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Post by RobR on Dec 28, 2014 18:07:47 GMT -5
Scherff might be available with our second round pick. He's going to drop like a rock, even though he is a good player. Dude, I love ya...but that's just batshit insane. Everyone and their mother compares Scherff favorably to Zack Martin who IMO should be in the running for OROY. If there was a re-do of the 2014 draft right now, Martin goes Top 5. In fact, is there ANY rookie who has made such a contribution to his team this year? Yeah, guys like Beckham and Evans look great...but their teams are still dogshit and totally underachieved this year. Meanwhile the Cowboys are looking the best they have since the early 90's with the addition of Martin paving the way for Murray. We'll see. My ONLY problem with Scherff is that he is not a LT and I think we agree on that. This draft has the potential to be one of the best LT draft classes ever if they all declare and that would push Scherff down IMO.
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Post by maury77 on Dec 28, 2014 18:09:00 GMT -5
Today has shades of 2007 when we beat the Chiefs at the end of the season and landed Gholston.
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Post by RobR on Dec 28, 2014 18:09:59 GMT -5
The Giants have a franchise QB and Beckham yet suck only marginally less than we do....if at all Would you rather we have Beckham or Pryor going forward? That last season win against the Fins was meaningless, just like this year.
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Post by Redlichtie on Dec 28, 2014 18:25:49 GMT -5
The Giants have a franchise QB and Beckham yet suck only marginally less than we do....if at all Would you rather we have Beckham or Pryor going forward? That last season win against the Fins was meaningless, just like this year. I'd rather have a crystal fucking ball that enables me to see into the future so that I can report that something crazy and totally unprecedented in NFL history has happened like a brilliant rookie subsequently got injured or big-headed and never again came close to replicating his first season performance meanwhile the rookie that struggled got it together under a new coaching staff that played him in his correct position and surrounded him with talent and hey fucking presto he became the player he was supposed to be....but no that's never happened ever in the history of the NFL so pointless imagining it ever could....All rookies who suck never ever improve and every first-year year phenom is guaranteed to continue dominating for decades to come...or maybe life is a little less simplistic than that bottom line neither is going to the playoffs and Beckhams sh!t-shower of a team is not much less of a failure than we are...and he had an actual QB throwing him the ball
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Post by RobR on Dec 28, 2014 18:32:26 GMT -5
Would you rather we have Beckham or Pryor going forward? That last season win against the Fins was meaningless, just like this year. I'd rather have a crystal fucking ball that enables me to see into the future so that I can report that something crazy and totally unprecedented in NFL history has happened like a brilliant rookie subsequently got injured or big-headed and never again came close to replicating his first season performance meanwhile the rookie that struggled got it together under a new coaching staff that played him in his correct position and surrounded him with talent and hey fucking presto he became the player he was supposed to be....but no that's never happened ever in the history of the NFL so pointless imagining it ever could....All rookies who suck never ever improve and every first-year year phenom is guaranteed to continue dominating for decades to come...or maybe life is a little less simplistic than that If you followed these players before they were drafted I'm not sure you would feel the same. Beckham is going to be special and Pryor will be nothing more than mediocre. I just hope you remember the win that propelled us to 8-8 in 2013. I saw it all in the crystal fucking ball.
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Post by Redlichtie on Dec 28, 2014 18:41:12 GMT -5
I'd rather have a crystal fucking ball that enables me to see into the future so that I can report that something crazy and totally unprecedented in NFL history has happened like a brilliant rookie subsequently got injured or big-headed and never again came close to replicating his first season performance meanwhile the rookie that struggled got it together under a new coaching staff that played him in his correct position and surrounded him with talent and hey fucking presto he became the player he was supposed to be....but no that's never happened ever in the history of the NFL so pointless imagining it ever could....All rookies who suck never ever improve and every first-year year phenom is guaranteed to continue dominating for decades to come...or maybe life is a little less simplistic than that If you followed these players before they were drafted I'm not sure you would feel the same. Beckham is going to be special and Pryor will be nothing more than mediocre. I just hope you remember the win that propelled us to 8-8 in 2013. I saw it all in the crystal fucking ball. I did and I do coulda woulda shoulda is totally fucking irrelevant and pointless at this stage...we are where we are and right now Odell Beckham has helped the Giants achieve precisely fuck all this season....no need for the crystal ball there
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Post by RobR on Dec 28, 2014 18:53:11 GMT -5
If you followed these players before they were drafted I'm not sure you would feel the same. Beckham is going to be special and Pryor will be nothing more than mediocre. I just hope you remember the win that propelled us to 8-8 in 2013. I saw it all in the crystal fucking ball. I did and I do coulda woulda shoulda is totally fucking irrelevant and pointless at this stage...we are where we are and right now Odell Beckham has helped the Giants achieve precisely fuck all this season....no need for the crystal ball there Answer the question....who would you rather have moving forward? Beckham or Pryor? Now take your irrelevant shit and GTFO.
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Post by Frank Reynolds on Dec 28, 2014 20:21:49 GMT -5
Giants rookie WR Odell Beckham Jr. 12 catches for 185 yds, TD in season finale; 91 catches for 1,305 yds, 12 TDs. BUT, THANK GOODNESS WE WON SOME MEANINGLESS GAMES AT THE END OF LAST SEASON! WE MIGHT HAVE ENDED UP WITH THAT BUM INSTEAD OF THE LEGENDARY CALVIN PRYOR! What was the Giants record again?...how many more playoff games will Beckham feature in this season than Pryor? That's how you're going to judge those picks? Seriously? Pryor is garbage is OBJ is already one of the best receivers in all of football. If they do that draft over again knowing what we know today, OBJ goes #1.
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Post by Redlichtie on Dec 29, 2014 3:48:49 GMT -5
If only we'd drafted Ronnie Lott, Joe Montana,, Jerry Rice, Emmitt Smith, Michael Irvin, Roethlisberger,, sparkle...etc etc etc we'd be on a 30 year unbroken Super Bowl winning streak
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Post by mogglez on Dec 29, 2014 4:18:36 GMT -5
If only we'd drafted Ronnie Lott, Joe Montana,, Jerry Rice, Emmitt Smith, Michael Irvin, Roethlisberger,, sparkle...etc etc etc we'd be on a 30 year unbroken Super Bowl winning streak Oh man, this is a special kind of stupid. Holy shit. You seriously are going to sit here argue that missing out on OBJ was a good thing/not that big of a deal? ESPECIALLY when we needed skill players like a fat kid needs a diet.
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Post by Redlichtie on Dec 29, 2014 4:26:38 GMT -5
If only we'd drafted Ronnie Lott, Joe Montana,, Jerry Rice, Emmitt Smith, Michael Irvin, Roethlisberger,, sparkle...etc etc etc we'd be on a 30 year unbroken Super Bowl winning streak Oh man, this is a special kind of stupid. Holy shit. You seriously are going to sit here argue that missing out on OBJ was a good thing/not that big of a deal? ESPECIALLY when we needed skill players like a fat kid needs a diet. Good idea that you edited your original text....try to get some class because 'Hot guy I'd like to blowed'...really?...if you think that shit is acceptable en good luck to you. and where you read that I'm arguing not having OBJ is a good thing is anyone's guess
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Post by mogglez on Dec 29, 2014 4:43:25 GMT -5
Oh man, this is a special kind of stupid. Holy shit. You seriously are going to sit here argue that missing out on OBJ was a good thing/not that big of a deal? ESPECIALLY when we needed skill players like a fat kid needs a diet. Good idea that you edited your original text....try to get some class because 'Hot guy I'd like to blowed'...really?...if you think that shit is acceptable en good luck to you. and where you read that I'm arguing not having OBJ is a good thing is anyone's guess You're trying to argue that the impact he has had on that team is insignificant by using our record as an example. A wide receiver that can catch 90+ balls and double digit TD is something I'd kill for. At least we saved poor Rex down in Miami last year. Also, get the hell off your goddamn high horse. I edited it because there are some here that I respect who might take offense to it. That's what the edit button is there for. Doesn't change how stupid your argument is.
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Post by Redlichtie on Dec 29, 2014 4:56:39 GMT -5
Good idea that you edited your original text....try to get some class because 'Hot guy I'd like to blowed'...really?...if you think that shit is acceptable en good luck to you. and where you read that I'm arguing not having OBJ is a good thing is anyone's guess You're trying to argue that the impact he has had on that team is insignificant by using our record as an example. A wide receiver that can catch 90+ balls and double digit TD is something I'd kill for. At least we saved poor Rex down in Miami last year. Also, get the hell off your goddamn high horse. I edited it because there are some here that I respect who might take offense to it. That's what the edit button is there for. Doesn't change how stupid your argument is. The fact you need to resort to the use of words such as Hot guy I'd like to blowed shows you lack any sort of class and tells me all I need to know about you. and no you couldn't have missed the points I was originally making any more spectacularly if you tried
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Post by mogglez on Dec 29, 2014 5:15:33 GMT -5
You're trying to argue that the impact he has had on that team is insignificant by using our record as an example. A wide receiver that can catch 90+ balls and double digit TD is something I'd kill for. At least we saved poor Rex down in Miami last year. Also, get the hell off your goddamn high horse. I edited it because there are some here that I respect who might take offense to it. That's what the edit button is there for. Doesn't change how stupid your argument is. The fact you need to resort to the use of words such as Hot guy I'd like to blowed shows you lack any sort of class and tells me all I need to know about you. and no you couldn't have missed the points I was originally making any more spectacularly if you tried Lmao ok there Jesus Christ himself, keep riding that big white stallion. Again, I edited it out because it wasn't cool. You want to keep going on and on about it like a child, then go ahead. I'm done with it because frankly, I don't really care about your opinion of me. The point you made that I took issue with was that the Giants have a real QB and Beckham and yet they didn't finish much better than us (who drafted Pryor). That would be minimizing his impact to their team. Pryor is not a better draft pick than Beckham and he never will be. His success isn't shocking to those who followed him. Anyone who paid a lick of attention to the guy knew he'd be electrifying at the next level. You didn't need a crystal fucking ball to see that. Them finishing close to us doesn't negate that fact that missing out on an player of his caliber for Calvin "Big Whiff" Pryor really fucking sucks.
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