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Post by BEAC0NJET on Oct 28, 2016 12:32:02 GMT -5
Remember how a fan rooting one way or another made one iota of difference re: whether the team actually won or lost? Oh wait...
I don't think I personally called anyone out for rooting either way... 'cause our rooting either way doesn't mean shit at the end of the day. The Rah Rahs who think they have a monopoly on the only way to be a fan are worse than the "told ya sos".
Saying that losing out will get you a higher pick and thus a chance at a better player isn't exactly discovering the cure for cancer.
Arguing over it is mental masturbation, because these are pro athletes and coaches who will not throw games in order to get higher draft picks. Wins = money and jobs for them. Thats not ground breaking info either.
But being right in hindsight counts for... something... maybe... i guess. That's why we have message boards.
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Post by BEAC0NJET on Oct 28, 2016 12:33:29 GMT -5
Rah-Rah syndrome with a severe case of sg3-itis. I brought the hammer of Thor down on those fuckheads routinely...yet I guess their way still won out in the end. And this is what you get Joy-oh-joy Most Jet fans on this board can learn from Ray Ray. He was an excellent poster, a true Jet fan and ambassador for the franchise. This guy... its a schtick right? Its got to be
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Post by JStokes on Oct 28, 2016 12:43:55 GMT -5
Remember how a fan rooting one way or another made one iota of difference re: whether the team actually won or lost? Oh wait... I don't think I personally called anyone out for rooting either way... 'cause our rooting either way doesn't mean shit at the end of the day. The Rah Rahs who think they have a monopoly on the only way to be a fan are worse than the "told ya sos". Saying that losing out will get you a higher pick and thus a chance at a better player isn't exactly discovering the cure for cancer. Arguing over it is mental masturbation, because these are pro athletes and coaches who will not throw games in order to get higher draft picks. Wins = money and jobs for them. Thats not ground breaking info either. But being right in hindsight counts for... something... maybe... i guess. That's why we have message boards. You'd have to be an idiot to think that anything we do as fans effect the outcomes of games. Hoping they'd lose and expecting that hope through the cosmos would come to fruition is idiocy. It was the rooting thing that torqued folks off--why would anyone care whether I was rooting for us to win or lose. My reasons for wanting to lose were based firmly in logic. Wanting to "beat those damn fish so we could end up 4-12", well, that was just silly but I wouldn't deny anyone their silliness. Again, it all depends upon the year--rooting to get a better pick for a shot at a Luck or a Mariota made total sense. This year, not so much. _
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Post by shootmenow on Oct 28, 2016 19:54:56 GMT -5
It's a tough one to forgive Rexy for but in reality we would have fucked it up and gone for a defensive guy.
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Post by RobR on Oct 28, 2016 20:03:53 GMT -5
Again, it all depends upon the year--rooting to get a better pick for a shot at a Luck or a Mariota made total sense. This year, not so much. _ I'm not sure why you say that. Losing in a lost season elevates every single pick you have throughout the rounds, thus giving the GM more ammunition and flexibility. Every single pick in the draft has a numerical value based on a chart....why not maximize that when you your team has no chance of accomplishing anything. Maybe you don't get that QB of the future at the top of the first this year but you snag a LT for the next decade because you were one or two picks higher, and that goes for every round throughout the draft. The draft isn't a crapshoot like many people mention, it's a science and all of the perennial better teams in the league have figured it out for the most part.
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Post by JStokes on Oct 28, 2016 20:09:52 GMT -5
Again, it all depends upon the year--rooting to get a better pick for a shot at a Luck or a Mariota made total sense. This year, not so much. _ I'm not sure why you say that. Losing in a lost season elevates every single pick you have throughout the rounds, thus giving the GM more ammunition and flexibility. Every single pick in the draft has a numerical value based on a chart....why not maximize that when you your team has no chance of accomplishing anything. Maybe you don't get that QB of the future at the top of the first this year but you snag a LT for the next decade because you were one or two picks higher, and that goes for every round throughout the draft. The draft isn't a crapshoot like many people mention, it's a science and all of the perennial better teams in the league have figured it out for the most part. I totally get that. However. Nothing else matters in the NFL other than the QB. It's the only thing. Getting the QB is the key to success. Getting a better pick in every round, while incredibly preferable, pales when it comes to the QB. Getting Mariota would have set us up for a decade plus. Getting Leonard Williams was...nice. _
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Post by shootmenow on Oct 28, 2016 22:04:39 GMT -5
Again, it all depends upon the year--rooting to get a better pick for a shot at a Luck or a Mariota made total sense. This year, not so much. _ I'm not sure why you say that. Losing in a lost season elevates every single pick you have throughout the rounds, thus giving the GM more ammunition and flexibility. Every single pick in the draft has a numerical value based on a chart....why not maximize that when you your team has no chance of accomplishing anything. Maybe you don't get that QB of the future at the top of the first this year but you snag a LT for the next decade because you were one or two picks higher, and that goes for every round throughout the draft. The draft isn't a crapshoot like many people mention, it's a science and all of the perennial better teams in the league have figured it out for the most part. It's definitely a science. Match your favorite gm scientist to their picture below:
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Post by Bing© in Buffalo Chairman on Oct 29, 2016 8:12:31 GMT -5
Remember that time Bobby Boucher came back at halftime and the Mud dogs won the Bourbon bowl???
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Post by 2foolish on Oct 29, 2016 10:53:26 GMT -5
Remember when those of us rooting for the Jets to lose were called aholes and not "true" Jet fans because every win mattered? How we'd remember for decades about how we played when the chips were down? About how rooting for a better draft pick was for losers? How we could look forward to more Geno Smith then Ryan fucking Magical cocksucking leprechaun then another dozen QBs instead of Marcus Mariota? _ like it was yesterday and i can't even remember what i had for dinner yeah well its starting to look like yesterday again..
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