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Apr 23, 2017 13:55:21 GMT -5
Post by bxjetfan on Apr 23, 2017 13:55:21 GMT -5
Sometimes things have to get worse before they get better. Five years is along time though. Wish you the best Raoul but I'm not optimistic for you.
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Apr 23, 2017 14:15:27 GMT -5
Post by shakin on Apr 23, 2017 14:15:27 GMT -5
france as the world knew it for centuries is done. gone. the shitbags have invaded in massive numbers and entrenched themselves, and the idiotic fucking left endlessly empower them at the expense of the "real" french. same is happening in italy, the u.k., etc.
move along folks, nothing to see here. "tolerance!" "diversity!" "multiculturalism!"
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Apr 23, 2017 15:36:23 GMT -5
Post by DDNYjets on Apr 23, 2017 15:36:23 GMT -5
Its doesnt really matter. The EU makes the immigration rules. Even if she won there wouldnt be a Frexit. She wants out of the EU. I think she wants out of NATO too. She is still the underdog in the second round and even if she won I think Frexit would require a referendum like in the UK. I dont think 50% of French would vote to leave. Im sure Raul could enlighten us but I think they fear the economic challenges of leaving the EU more than they do open borders and terrorism.
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Apr 23, 2017 20:15:13 GMT -5
Post by bxjetfan on Apr 23, 2017 20:15:13 GMT -5
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Post by Raoul Duke on Apr 24, 2017 1:20:36 GMT -5
She wants out of the EU. I think she wants out of NATO too. She is still the underdog in the second round and even if she won I think Frexit would require a referendum like in the UK. I dont think 50% of French would vote to leave. Im sure Raul could enlighten us but I think they fear the economic challenges of leaving the EU more than they do open borders and terrorism. She is an underdog for the second round, though as I've been saying to friends, one day she'll go all the way. If not this year, in 2022. A Frexit wouldn't need a referendum, though that's where she's contridcting. She said she wouldn't do anything without the people's consent so she would put it to a referendum. Puting it to a referendum is DOA. A huge majority of people want to stay in the EU, so what would she do then? One of her main campaign point was a Frexit. As for staying in the EU you're right. Our unemployment is already over 10%, if we left, trade barriers would go back up, we'd have to go back to the Franc and who knows what else. I don't trust our leaders to make it out of the shithole alone.
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Post by Raoul Duke on Apr 24, 2017 1:57:51 GMT -5
Well, LePen and Macron made it to the second round with about 23% of the vote. I think she needed to win big tonight to have a shot at winning. Raoul, tell us about Macron. Macron was unkown to the public until 3-4 years ago. His DNA is finance and has been in and out of public office since he started working with stints in major banking companies. He was Minister of Economy under Hollande though he didn’t belong to the Socialist party and was always under fire because the left thought he was too pro-bank.. He’s different than practically all our politicians in the sense that he has actually had a job outside of politics. One of our singularities is 95% of politicians haven't. That’s one thing I envy from the US, most politicians have seen the real world as doctors, lawyers, business men.. He’s come a long way, very fast so in a sense he doesn’t have enough history to have negative shit on him. He created his own party for the campaign so everything is new. If he’s elected, his next battle is to find enough troops for legislative elections (equivalent to your house of Rep) in order to get a majority and be able to govern.
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Post by Raoul Duke on Apr 24, 2017 3:23:34 GMT -5
She wants out of the EU. I think she wants out of NATO too. She is still the underdog in the second round and even if she won I think Frexit would require a referendum like in the UK. I dont think 50% of French would vote to leave. Im sure Raul could enlighten us but I think they fear the economic challenges of leaving the EU more than they do open borders and terrorism. Another important part is historical. This point may fly over your heads, but we’ve hosted 2 WW on our soil. That may seem light years away to some of you, but my grandparents and parents went through it. Both started in Europe, between Europeans and not over religion. The last time because some nationalist nut wanted to take over Europe. So yes, there is a feeling that we need to stay together. All of you fantasizing over Le Pen should look into her party and the people who surround her: ex-nazi sympathisers (and I don’t use that term lightly), historical revisionists, holocaust negationists..She’s cleaned up the party at the surface to be more presentable, but the core is the same: hate. We have our problems but no way will I put nuts like that in power. My generation is probably the last one to remember who they are and in a few years someone will make it. She’s already won in the sense a part from antifa, no one is in the streets protesting so she’s ‘normalized’ the party . The last time the National Front made it to the 2nd round, everyone was in the streets.
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Apr 24, 2017 6:30:24 GMT -5
Post by DDNYjets on Apr 24, 2017 6:30:24 GMT -5
She is still the underdog in the second round and even if she won I think Frexit would require a referendum like in the UK. I dont think 50% of French would vote to leave. Im sure Raul could enlighten us but I think they fear the economic challenges of leaving the EU more than they do open borders and terrorism. Another important part is historical. This point may fly over your heads, but we’ve hosted 2 WW on our soil. That may seem light years away to some of you, but my grandparents and parents went through it. Both started in Europe, between Europeans and not over religion. The last time because some nationalist nut wanted to take over Europe. So yes, there is a feeling that we need to stay together. All of you fantasizing over Le Pen should look into her party and the people who surround her: ex-nazi sympathisers (and I don’t use that term lightly), historical revisionists, holocaust negationists..She’s cleaned up the party at the surface to be more presentable, but the core is the same: hate. We have our problems but no way will I put nuts like that in power. My generation is probably the last one to remember who they are and in a few years someone will make it. She’s already won in the sense a part from antifa, no one is in the streets protesting so she’s ‘normalized’ the party . The last time the National Front made it to the 2nd round, everyone was in the streets. I understand the history about as well as I could for not living it. And I think that sentiment is shared across many European countries. I also think empathy and frankly guilt that has played into Europes willingness to accept refugees. And the desire to do good cloaked just how hard, if not impossible, integration and assimilation would be. Now I know who to blame for those antifa nuts running all over California. Thanks Raoul.
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Apr 24, 2017 8:08:17 GMT -5
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Post by JetRepulsion1 on Apr 24, 2017 8:08:17 GMT -5
Well, LePen and Macron made it to the second round with about 23% of the vote. I think she needed to win big tonight to have a shot at winning. Raoul, tell us about Macron. Macron was unkown to the public until 3-4 years ago. His DNA is finance and has been in and out of public office since he started working with stints in major banking companies. He was Minister of Economy under Hollande though he didn’t belong to the Socialist party and was always under fire because the left thought he was too pro-bank.. He’s different than practically all our politicians in the sense that he has actually had a job outside of politics. One of our singularities is 95% of politicians haven't. That’s one thing I envy from the US, most politicians have seen the real world as doctors, lawyers, business men.. He’s come a long way, very fast so in a sense he doesn’t have enough history to have negative shit on him. He created his own party for the campaign so everything is new. If he’s elected, his next battle is to find enough troops for legislative elections (equivalent to your house of Rep) in order to get a majority and be able to govern. Marcon also married his teacher. He's like 38 and his wife is like 64. Can he be trusted with France when his wife is such an old bag??? 😀 As for the future, I was reading that people in Paris were asking why the latest terror attack happened? They were saying maybe it's because of Frances involvement in Syria or some other BS. Truth is it doesn't even matter. You can not mollify these crazed crack pots. Good luck my French brothers. Hope you can get this horrible situation fixed.
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Apr 24, 2017 8:25:52 GMT -5
Post by Raoul Duke on Apr 24, 2017 8:25:52 GMT -5
Macron was unkown to the public until 3-4 years ago. His DNA is finance and has been in and out of public office since he started working with stints in major banking companies. He was Minister of Economy under Hollande though he didn’t belong to the Socialist party and was always under fire because the left thought he was too pro-bank.. He’s different than practically all our politicians in the sense that he has actually had a job outside of politics. One of our singularities is 95% of politicians haven't. That’s one thing I envy from the US, most politicians have seen the real world as doctors, lawyers, business men.. He’s come a long way, very fast so in a sense he doesn’t have enough history to have negative shit on him. He created his own party for the campaign so everything is new. If he’s elected, his next battle is to find enough troops for legislative elections (equivalent to your house of Rep) in order to get a majority and be able to govern. Marcon also married his teacher. He's like 38 and his wife is like 64. Can he be trusted with France when his wife is such an old bag??? 😀As for the future, I was reading that people in Paris were asking why the latest terror attack happened? They were saying maybe it's because of Frances involvement in Syria or some other BS. Truth is it doesn't even matter. You can not mollify these crazed crack pots. Good luck my French brothers. Hope you can get this horrible situation fixed. How does this have any impact on his ability to be president? He bagged a MILF when he was 17, he deserves credit . Seriously I find it odd, but that's about it.
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Post by Trades on Apr 24, 2017 8:25:58 GMT -5
Macron was unkown to the public until 3-4 years ago. His DNA is finance and has been in and out of public office since he started working with stints in major banking companies. He was Minister of Economy under Hollande though he didn’t belong to the Socialist party and was always under fire because the left thought he was too pro-bank.. He’s different than practically all our politicians in the sense that he has actually had a job outside of politics. One of our singularities is 95% of politicians haven't. That’s one thing I envy from the US, most politicians have seen the real world as doctors, lawyers, business men.. He’s come a long way, very fast so in a sense he doesn’t have enough history to have negative shit on him. He created his own party for the campaign so everything is new. If he’s elected, his next battle is to find enough troops for legislative elections (equivalent to your house of Rep) in order to get a majority and be able to govern. I love the people that think they are responsible for inciting attacks by radical Islam. It is the nature and credo of their religion and they will only be mollified by complete surrender by the infidels. Marcon also married his teacher. He's like 38 and his wife is like 64. Can he be trusted with France when his wife is such an old bag??? 😀 As for the future, I was reading that people in Paris were asking why the latest terror attack happened? They were saying maybe it's because of Frances involvement in Syria or some other BS. Truth is it doesn't even matter. You can not mollify these crazed crack pots. Good luck my French brothers. Hope you can get this horrible situation fixed.
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Apr 24, 2017 8:30:51 GMT -5
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Post by JetRepulsion1 on Apr 24, 2017 8:30:51 GMT -5
Marcon also married his teacher. He's like 38 and his wife is like 64. Can he be trusted with France when his wife is such an old bag??? 😀As for the future, I was reading that people in Paris were asking why the latest terror attack happened? They were saying maybe it's because of Frances involvement in Syria or some other BS. Truth is it doesn't even matter. You can not mollify these crazed crack pots. Good luck my French brothers. Hope you can get this horrible situation fixed. How does this have any impact on his ability to be president? He bagged a MILF when he was 17, he deserves credit . Seriously I find it odd, but that's about it. I'm only (mostly) kidding. 😀 Props for banging his teacher when she was in her 30s, but to marry her and be with her when she's in her 60s? She was also married at the time. I agree with you that it is odd, and doesn't have any bearing on his ability to govern. Although, if he becomes president, the people of France have to lock up their GRANDMOTHERS (usually, it's lock up your daughters). Hahahaha.
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Post by Raoul Duke on Apr 24, 2017 8:35:31 GMT -5
How does this have any impact on his ability to be president? He bagged a MILF when he was 17, he deserves credit . Seriously I find it odd, but that's about it. I'm only (mostly) kidding. 😀 Props for banging his teacher when she was in her 30s, but to marry her and be with her when she's in her 60s? She was also married at the time. I agree with you that it is odd, and doesn't have any bearing on his ability to govern. Although, if he becomes president, the people of France have to lock up their GRANDMOTHERS (usually, it's lock up your daughters). Hahahaha. If he follows our last 2 presidents he'll end up banging an actress/model.
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Post by Harrier on Apr 24, 2017 8:59:02 GMT -5
She is still the underdog in the second round and even if she won I think Frexit would require a referendum like in the UK. I dont think 50% of French would vote to leave. Im sure Raul could enlighten us but I think they fear the economic challenges of leaving the EU more than they do open borders and terrorism. Another important part is historical. This point may fly over your heads, but we’ve hosted 2 WW on our soil. That may seem light years away to some of you, but my grandparents and parents went through it. Both started in Europe, between Europeans and not over religion. The last time because some nationalist nut wanted to take over Europe. So yes, there is a feeling that we need to stay together. All of you fantasizing over Le Pen should look into her party and the people who surround her: ex-nazi sympathisers (and I don’t use that term lightly), historical revisionists, holocaust negationists..She’s cleaned up the party at the surface to be more presentable, but the core is the same: hate. We have our problems but no way will I put nuts like that in power. My generation is probably the last one to remember who they are and in a few years someone will make it. She’s already won in the sense a part from antifa, no one is in the streets protesting so she’s ‘normalized’ the party . The last time the National Front made it to the 2nd round, everyone was in the streets. With respect Duke this is not about the past it's about your fams future, no one is saying you should forget the past of your grandparents who lived through it as I haven't mine who fought in WW and inspired me to join up, but we're fighting for our children's, children's futures here. This is nothing new, this is an Islamic crusade destroying our beautiful continent and its values and freedoms from within while we sit back and let it happen. The EU did not protect us and that bitch Merkel let them infiltrate and destroy us because Germany now wants to forget it's past and be seen as a global humanitarian in the eyes of the world. What France do you want for your kids? A far right nationalist who will protect your historic values and freedoms and fight for its own people no matter how controversial they are, or a liberal tolerant government who tolerates the enemy who do not share this same liberal values you do? It's your choice, choose the lesser of two evils IMO. In 100 years when Europe is an Islamic state thanks to the tolerant liberal approach the EU has shown, Muslims will not show our extended family the same mercy, our militaries will be fighting in the streets for our very existence and I hope my extended family looks some liberal twat who is crying in the eye and says "are you finally happy? You created this" The whole world is fighting back against this disgusting pig religion, it's time to join the party and give your future relatives a fighting chance to remain Frenxh or become a convert. Allegiance to the EU won't save you.
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Post by bxjetfan on Apr 24, 2017 9:03:32 GMT -5
She is still the underdog in the second round and even if she won I think Frexit would require a referendum like in the UK. I dont think 50% of French would vote to leave. Im sure Raul could enlighten us but I think they fear the economic challenges of leaving the EU more than they do open borders and terrorism. Another important part is historical. This point may fly over your heads, but we’ve hosted 2 WW on our soil. That may seem light years away to some of you, but my grandparents and parents went through it. Both started in Europe, between Europeans and not over religion. The last time because some nationalist nut wanted to take over Europe. So yes, there is a feeling that we need to stay together. All of you fantasizing over Le Pen should look into her party and the people who surround her: ex-nazi sympathisers (and I don’t use that term lightly), historical revisionists, holocaust negationists..She’s cleaned up the party at the surface to be more presentable, but the core is the same: hate. We have our problems but no way will I put nuts like that in power. My generation is probably the last one to remember who they are and in a few years someone will make it. She’s already won in the sense a part from antifa, no one is in the streets protesting so she’s ‘normalized’ the party . The last time the National Front made it to the 2nd round, everyone was in the streets. Nothing is flying over our heads. It seems that most Europeans have forgotten the history of Islam though. What they couldn't get through war they will get by immigration. LePen seemed like the only politician that was addressing the issue head on. Look at the birth rate charts that Ragu posted awhile ago. In 50-75 years You will be an Islamic State. You can't wait 25 years to address this issue because by then it will be too late.
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