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Post by Ff2 on Nov 20, 2016 13:37:50 GMT -5
So help me out....why didn't he campaign with: "We’re going to have a saner, more sensible immigration policy." Instead of "Were going to build a wall"? Because that's called "campaigning". Speaking of which, what happened to that "free" universal health care Obama promised me? Trump's "campaigning sounds alot like "lying" to me. Can anyone say anything here about Trump without using Obama as a measuring stick? |
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Post by Touchable on Nov 20, 2016 13:39:38 GMT -5
Because that's called "campaigning". Speaking of which, what happened to that "free" universal health care Obama promised me? Trump's "campaigning sounds alot like "lying" to me. Can anyone say anything here about Trump without using Obama as a measuring stick? He was the last president. Of course he's the measuring stick. You know how many libs I've trampled over the last 8 years over Obama's policies just to hear the same "Well he's better than Bush!" retort? |
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Post by Mond the Bagnificient on Nov 20, 2016 13:40:40 GMT -5
Trump's "campaigning sounds alot like "lying" to me. Can anyone say anything here about Trump without using Obama as a measuring stick? He was the last president. Of course he's the measuring stick. And his policies created the demand for someone like trump. |
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Post by Ff2 on Nov 20, 2016 13:42:30 GMT -5
Trump's "campaigning sounds alot like "lying" to me. Can anyone say anything here about Trump without using Obama as a measuring stick? He was the last president. Of course he's the measuring stick. You know how many libs I've trampled over the last 8 years over Obama's policies just to hear the same "Well he's better than Bush!" retort? Thats my point, sounds like we are in for more of the same. And round and round we go. |
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Post by DDNYjets on Nov 20, 2016 13:42:53 GMT -5
Im sure you thought it was silly that Obamas supporters always said he was better than Bush. At some point you'll have to look at Trump on his own. I voted for him in 2008 bc his message was "Im not Bush". His entire campaign was based on the Bush failures. Bush gaves us Obama. And Obama gave us Trump. Although he seems to be in denial about that. I will look at him on his own at some point. But ultimately he will be judged by how people are doing. The average person doesnt get into the weeds on all the policies. And it wont be hard for him to improve on healthcare, infrastructure, foreign policy, trade and education. We are pretty shitty in all those things right now. |
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Post by Ff2 on Nov 20, 2016 13:48:06 GMT -5
Im sure you thought it was silly that Obamas supporters always said he was better than Bush. At some point you'll have to look at Trump on his own. I voted for him in 2008 bc his message was "Im not Bush". His entire campaign was based on the Bush failures. Bush gaves us Obama. And Obama gave us Trump. Although he seems to be in denial about that. I will look at him on his own at some point. But ultimately he will be judged by how people are doing. The average person doesnt get into the weeds on all the policies. And it wont be hard for him to improve on healthcare, infrastructure, foreign policy, trade and education. We are pretty shitty in all those things right now. Every one of them comes in with plans for big change. The the next one gets in 8 years because nothing much changed. At least anything that trickles down to Main Street. |
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Post by DDNYjets on Nov 20, 2016 13:57:13 GMT -5
I voted for him in 2008 bc his message was "Im not Bush". His entire campaign was based on the Bush failures. Bush gaves us Obama. And Obama gave us Trump. Although he seems to be in denial about that. I will look at him on his own at some point. But ultimately he will be judged by how people are doing. The average person doesnt get into the weeds on all the policies. And it wont be hard for him to improve on healthcare, infrastructure, foreign policy, trade and education. We are pretty shitty in all those things right now. Every one of them comes in with plans for big change. The the next one gets in 8 years because nothing much changed. At least anything that trickles down to Main Street. I agree. I want one-term limit on Presidents. Just look at the second term of our last three presidents. And with the way things are now with 24 hour news and social media every candidate is going to be beat to shit before they even take office. |
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Post by shakin on Nov 20, 2016 14:00:26 GMT -5
Because that's called "campaigning". Speaking of which, what happened to that "free" universal health care Obama promised me? Trump's "campaigning sounds alot like "lying" to me. Can anyone say anything here about Trump without using Obama as a measuring stick? we could. but we won't. we listened to you mooks still blaming bush 7.5 years into obammy's reign |
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Post by Ff2 on Nov 20, 2016 14:01:32 GMT -5
Trump's "campaigning sounds alot like "lying" to me. Can anyone say anything here about Trump without using Obama as a measuring stick? we could. but we won't. we listened to you mooks still blaming bush 7.5 years into obammy's reign Thanks for admitting were just 2 sides of the same coin. |
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Post by DDNYjets on Nov 20, 2016 15:09:53 GMT -5
Trump's "campaigning sounds alot like "lying" to me. Can anyone say anything here about Trump without using Obama as a measuring stick? we could. but we won't. we listened to you mooks still blaming bush 7.5 years into obammy's reign All they talked about was what Obama inherited. If you didnt know any better you would have thought he was a trust fund baby. |
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Post by flushingjet on Nov 21, 2016 16:33:42 GMT -5
Not the real war fish because he would never think religious miracles occur |
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Post by rangerous on Nov 21, 2016 19:35:08 GMT -5
You guys still don't get it. Allow me to help you although I actually prefer you keep it up. Peter Thiel summed it up perfectly: His base and those counties he converted from blue to red aren't going to care about how many miles the wall is. If their quality of life improves they will stay red. They know what we have now is broken and has been exploited by the special interests. Thats what he is going to be graded on by those voters. Doesnt matter what the coastal liberals and media elites say about him falling short on how long the wall is. So help me out....why didn't he campaign with: "We’re going to have a saner, more sensible immigration policy." Instead of "Were going to build a wall"? okay, the choice was this. we're building a wall versus we love an open southern border so we can just let everyone in so they'll vote demotardic for their lifetimes while we give them more than the average citizen. and heck, we'll even let them vote without any id or proof of citizenship. is that enough help? |
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Post by 2foolish on Nov 21, 2016 20:29:31 GMT -5
Youre so naive. No wonder why your candidate lost. naive because I expect truth from my President? dude I'm not a big fan of Trump either but u expected truth from Clinton?...Securing ones border which every soverign nation has every right to do is not racist...but on the other hand lumping us all who want secure borders into racist category seems a lot like ur indictment of Trump... |
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