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Post by Sonny Werblin on Jan 17, 2017 8:13:49 GMT -5
This is how a team is built. You can't draft guys expecting that they will be instant starters. You draft them, develop them and they become starters or key role players. Then you re-sign them, or let them walk because you've got the next guy ready to go behind him. This takes time and patients. The teams that have been drafting well for a while -- Packers, Bengals, Steelers, Ravens, Texans, Cowboys, Seahawks -- have deep talented teams and rarely need to sign a free agent to fill a hole. It will take 3 to 4 more years, but if Mac does consistently well in the draft, like he has in the past two (with the exception of the 2d round), the Jets will be very good for a long time. And might I add that the timing could not be better as it will line up perfectly with the end of Brady's career.
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Post by Lithfan on Jan 17, 2017 8:24:38 GMT -5
Still curious to see how the guaranteed money shakes out and how the contract is structured, but if the contract does average $7 - $8MM as reported, here is a list of the other guards getting paid an average of $7MM - $8MM per year:
Mike Iupati $8,000,000 Brandon Brooks $8,000,000 Marshal Yanda $7,979,412 Andy Levitre $7,800,000 Orlando Franklin $7,300,000 Josh Sitton $7,000,000 Jeff Allen $7,000,000
I don't have a problem with Winters in a range with those guys, especially when you consider that the salary cap is likely to increase by about $10 - $15MM for 2017.
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Post by Touchable on Jan 17, 2017 8:46:37 GMT -5
Still curious to see how the guaranteed money shakes out and how the contract is structured, but if the contract does average $7 - $8MM as reported, here is a list of the other guards getting paid an average of $7MM - $8MM per year: Mike Iupati $8,000,000 Brandon Brooks $8,000,000 Marshal Yanda $7,979,412 Andy Levitre $7,800,000 Orlando Franklin $7,300,000 Josh Sitton $7,000,000 Jeff Allen $7,000,000 I don't have a problem with Winters in a range with those guys, especially when you consider that the salary cap is likely to increase by about $10 - $15MM for 2017. Marshal Yanda is underpaid Zack Martin is the one who gets all of the attention, but Yanda has probably been the best guard in the league over the last 3 or 4 years.
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Post by sec.101row23 on Jan 17, 2017 9:37:49 GMT -5
With a salary cap that will be right around $170M this year, Winters deal is perfectly fine. He was a must sign and Mac did the right thing by not letting him the open market.
Once the Jets moved him to RG, which is where he should have been playing since day one, Winters developed nicely.
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Post by Yankees45 on Jan 17, 2017 11:08:22 GMT -5
Damn good shit for winters, I remember we used to shit on him because he was ass , deserves reward for improvement and he's now one of the best in the lg
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Post by TRUE Jet Fan on Jan 17, 2017 11:14:52 GMT -5
nice to keep our own talent in house, but i had a feeling we were going to over pay... and we did. B- grade I think we're going to have to overpay anyone to stay/come here. There's really not much separating us from the Browns/Jags/49ers at this point. Absolutely completely untrue. Players love playing in NY and for a great franchise like the Jets.
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Post by TRUE Jet Fan on Jan 17, 2017 11:15:27 GMT -5
Damn good shit for winters, I remember we used to shit on him because he was ass , deserves reward for improvement and he's now one of the best in the lg He was always a good player, never ass.
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Post by johnnyhector on Jan 17, 2017 11:21:26 GMT -5
I get the fans are upset haven't been to playoffs in 6 years but it's far from worst franchise 13 teams have never even won a super bowl
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Post by Lithfan on Jan 17, 2017 12:17:50 GMT -5
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Post by JetRepulsion1 on Jan 17, 2017 12:22:01 GMT -5
This is how a team is built. You can't draft guys expecting that they will be instant starters. You draft them, develop them and they become starters or key role players. Then you re-sign them, or let them walk because you've got the next guy ready to go behind him. This takes time and patients. The teams that have been drafting well for a while -- Packers, Bengals, Steelers, Ravens, Texans, Cowboys, Seahawks -- have deep talented teams and rarely need to sign a free agent to fill a hole. It will take 3 to 4 more years, but if Mac does consistently well in the draft, like he has in the past two (with the exception of the 2d round), the Jets will be very good for a long time. And might I add that the timing could not be better as it will line up perfectly with the end of Cum guzzelling fag's career. Mental patients or patien ce?
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Post by mrcoops on Jan 17, 2017 12:22:12 GMT -5
Good deal. Average on par with recent OG signings, and may well look cheap once FA starts.
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Post by Hotman on Jan 17, 2017 12:53:54 GMT -5
I think we're going to have to overpay anyone to stay/come here. There's really not much separating us from the Browns/Jags/49ers at this point. Absolutely completely untrue. Players love playing in NY and for a great franchise like the Jets. You got a point bro. We are definitely a top destination, can't forget that. Jets are really the class of the NFL.
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Post by HawkeyeJet on Jan 19, 2017 10:00:30 GMT -5
All the guaranteed money is in the first two years, per Darryl Slater. Jets can move on from him penalty free after 2018 season.
I'd say that's a pretty good contract for the Jets.
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Post by Lithfan on Jan 19, 2017 17:57:50 GMT -5
Contract details per Overthecap.com
2017: $1MM base salary, $7MM roster bonus. $8M Cap Hit fully guaranteed. 2018: $7MM base salary. Fully guaranteed 2019: $500K roster bonus, $6MM base. $0 guaranteed 2020: $500K roster bonus, $7MM base. $0 guaranteed
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Post by johnnyhector on Jan 19, 2017 18:09:41 GMT -5
Nvm I see it now
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