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Post by DDNYjets on Mar 21, 2017 13:26:30 GMT -5
Trump hit a grand slam with the Gorsuch pick. Watching the hearings on Youtube. Thank God he won.
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Post by bxjetfan on Mar 21, 2017 16:54:42 GMT -5
It sounds like this healthcare bill has the potential to be a piece of shit and might not pass because of the conservative Rs. If the Dems were smart they would have just enough members vote to get it to pass to hang on Trump in 2020.
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Post by bxjetfan on Mar 22, 2017 17:55:16 GMT -5
Trump says you have to walk away from a bad deal. I hope he lets obamacare implode on its own rather then pass a shitty replacement. Just address it again next year.
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Post by DDNYjets on Mar 22, 2017 18:34:11 GMT -5
Mark Meadows, Chair of the Freedom Caucus, just said they are working hard and he was optimistic they are going to reach a deal by tomorrow.
All this bullshit about them being split was a set up to make it look like they were able to work together and make deals in the end. So long as they are able to get Part 2 and Part 3 done and get prices down everyone will look like heroes.
I wanted them to just let it implode but they are insisting they need to do this before the tax cuts come.
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Post by flushingjet on Mar 22, 2017 18:39:56 GMT -5
Mark Meadows, Chair of the Freedom Caucus, just said they are working hard and he was optimistic they are going to reach a deal by tomorrow. All this bullshit about them being split was a set up to make it look like they were able to work together and make deals in the end. So long as they are able to get Part 2 and Part 3 done and get prices down everyone will look like heroes. I wanted them to just let it implode but they are insisting they need to do this before the tax cuts come. Yes because it affects hiring
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Post by bxjetfan on Mar 23, 2017 22:16:57 GMT -5
Paul Ryan is a clown regardless of what happens tomorrow.
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Post by Ff2 on Mar 24, 2017 13:38:38 GMT -5
So if The Great American Freedom Apple Pie Heath Plan goes down...
Who will Trump blame as to why he couldn't fulfill his "promise"
What happen next? Do I get to keep my doctor?
And if The Great American Freedom Apple Pie Heath Plan passes...and sucks..and we start reading sob stories about folks who lost healthcare...what will it mean for Trump?
This seems like a lose/lose
How will he spin this?
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Post by bxjetfan on Mar 24, 2017 13:55:52 GMT -5
So if The Great American Freedom Apple Pie Heath Plan goes down... Who will Trump blame as to why he couldn't fulfill his "promise" What happen next? Do I get to keep my doctor? And if The Great American Freedom Apple Pie Heath Plan passes...and sucks..and we start reading sob stories about folks who lost healthcare...what will it mean for Trump? This seems like a lose/lose How will he spin this? Why does he have to spin anything? They can't get a bill to his desk for him to sign. Paul Ryan blows if he can't deliver this, and it looks like he can't.
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Post by Ff2 on Mar 24, 2017 13:58:12 GMT -5
So if The Great American Freedom Apple Pie Heath Plan goes down... Who will Trump blame as to why he couldn't fulfill his "promise" What happen next? Do I get to keep my doctor? And if The Great American Freedom Apple Pie Heath Plan passes...and sucks..and we start reading sob stories about folks who lost healthcare...what will it mean for Trump? This seems like a lose/lose How will he spin this? Why does he have to spin anything? They can't get a bill to his desk for him to sign. Paul Ryan blows if he can't deliver this, and it looks like he can't. It was part of his campaign...not a wish list. In his speeches he didn't say...if Paul Ryan brings me a bill to my desk for me to sign...He even left the White House to bend arms. BTW...how's term limits coming?
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Post by bxjetfan on Mar 24, 2017 14:03:32 GMT -5
Why does he have to spin anything? They can't get a bill to his desk for him to sign. Paul Ryan blows if he can't deliver this, and it looks like he can't. It was part of his campaign...not a wish list. In his speeches he didn't say...if Paul Ryan brings me a bill to my desk for me to sign...He even left the White House to bend arms. BTW...how's term limits coming? Health care reform was part of his plan. You know we elected him President not Dictator right?
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Post by Ff2 on Mar 24, 2017 14:08:33 GMT -5
It was part of his campaign...not a wish list. In his speeches he didn't say...if Paul Ryan brings me a bill to my desk for me to sign...He even left the White House to bend arms. BTW...how's term limits coming? Health care reform was part of his plan. You know we elected him President not Dictator right? Yes, which is why he's lost twice on travel ban...those pesky courts. BUT....I was told that with the majority GOP in House and Senate he was going to be able to pass whatever he wanted. That Obamacare was dead DAY ONE. "Dictator-lite" one might say.
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Post by bxjetfan on Mar 24, 2017 14:29:07 GMT -5
Health care reform was part of his plan. You know we elected him President not Dictator right? Yes, which is why he's lost twice on travel ban...those pesky courts. BUT....I was told that with the majority GOP in House and Senate he was going to be able to pass whatever he wanted. That Obamacare was dead DAY ONE. "Dictator-lite" one might say. The ban will get through. This is isn't the Republicans finest moment if it fails, that's for sure. things will get worse and they will just address it next year. It's just too bad people will get fucked this year.
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Post by Trades on Mar 25, 2017 7:23:19 GMT -5
Health care reform was part of his plan. You know we elected him President not Dictator right? Yes, which is why he's lost twice on travel ban...those pesky courts.BUT....I was told that with the majority GOP in House and Senate he was going to be able to pass whatever he wanted. That Obamacare was dead DAY ONE. "Dictator-lite" one might say. Please, that is a complete over reach and the reasons for blocking we very weak. Hurting the state because of limiting tourism, please.
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Post by DDNYjets on Mar 25, 2017 7:38:47 GMT -5
One court upheld his travel ban yesterday. I believe it was in Maryland. So the courts are split which pretty much guarantees it will go before SCOTUS. At this point it is more about making sure a precedent isnt set rather than about the ban itself. By the time SCOTUS hears the case, General Kelly and Tillerson will have their extreme vetting measures in place.
As for the Healthcare plan it was a campaign pledge. But it was also a pledge for Romney/Ryan. And they lost, as we all know. What put Trump over the top was immigration and trade. That is how he broke the "blue wall". They are never getting 60 votes to do a proper repeal and get this done the right way. At least not yet. That may change once Obamacare implodes for real.
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Post by flushingjet on Mar 25, 2017 10:12:31 GMT -5
So if The Great American Freedom Apple Pie Heath Plan goes down... Who will Trump blame as to why he couldn't fulfill his "promise" What happen next? Do I get to keep my doctor? And if The Great American Freedom Apple Pie Heath Plan passes...and sucks..and we start reading sob stories about folks who lost healthcare...what will it mean for Trump? This seems like a lose/lose How will he spin this? [ As usual defending the indefensible and mocking what is right and just with hackneyed, false shibboleths We as a country woke up Friday with SHIT Marxist-Muslimcare forced on everyone by the left and went to bed with the same. The left didn't vote for yesterdays plans, did they? Any benefit you have is taxpayer subsidized so you're no different from a Medicaid \ illegal leech Meanwhile normal people's premiums and deductibles have gone up several 100% and if you want to go to a cheaper plan you can't always keep your doctor TODAY, because they won't always accept it. You didn't vote for Trump so concern troll is overly concerned
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