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Post by quantum on Aug 6, 2019 12:41:43 GMT -5
no wonder they resort to violence so quickly: they drive each other insane. btw - really stupid how they say their name and then their pronouns. Be easier to just refer to all of them as "stupid twat" lmao. I wouldnt mind humping her leg either
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Post by bxjetfan on Aug 6, 2019 12:57:00 GMT -5
They're gonna spend the money anyway. I'd rather they get it from the companies that are hollowing out local economies then by raising local taxes. Are you blaming the hollowing out of the economy on say Amazon? While that is partly true, the current state of high taxation makes it near impossible to open a small retail shop, restaurant etc in the Nassau Suffolk area. Just curious your thoughts? There is a real reason we are seeing a decrease in small restaurants, deli's etc in Nassau and Suffolk and none of it is related to Amazon. If all of the empty retail space was filled taxes could drop because of all the additional revenue coming in. (Whether politicians would is another matter) Right now Amazon has a huge competitive advantage because they negotiate tax breaks before they open these huge distribution centers. They pay no property taxes in exchange for jobs. In effect they are unfairly handicapping two communities with their business practices. I dont have the answer but what is happening now isn't right.
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Post by Hotman on Aug 6, 2019 13:08:47 GMT -5
They're gonna spend the money anyway. I'd rather they get it from the companies that are hollowing out local economies then by raising local taxes. Are you blaming the hollowing out of the economy on say Amazon? While that is partly true, the current state of high taxation makes it near impossible to open a small retail shop, restaurant etc in the Nassau Suffolk area. Just curious your thoughts? There is a real reason we are seeing a decrease in small restaurants, deli's etc in Nassau and Suffolk and none of it is related to Amazon. Yeah it's prob bc Nassau fuckin BLOWS and nobody with half a brain wants to live there anymore Sorry not sorry. Place is a fuckin nightmare
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Post by BEAC0NJET on Aug 6, 2019 13:23:13 GMT -5
Are you blaming the hollowing out of the economy on say Amazon? While that is partly true, the current state of high taxation makes it near impossible to open a small retail shop, restaurant etc in the Nassau Suffolk area. Just curious your thoughts? There is a real reason we are seeing a decrease in small restaurants, deli's etc in Nassau and Suffolk and none of it is related to Amazon. If all of the empty retail space was filled taxes could drop because of all the additional revenue coming in. (Whether politicians would is another matter) Right now Amazon has a huge competitive advantage because they negotiate tax breaks before they open these huge distribution centers. They pay no property taxes in exchange for jobs. In effect they are unfairly handicapping two communities with their business practices. I dont have the answer but what is happening now isn't right. Even if Amazon didn't get tax breaks, and things were more expensive there, I would probably still choose them over the local brick and mortar due to convenience.
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Post by BEAC0NJET on Aug 6, 2019 13:28:47 GMT -5
The last thing I'd want is to see the dolts who run this county have more money to spend. They're gonna spend the money anyway. I'd rather they get it from the companies that are hollowing out local economies then by raising local taxes. What you're essentially proposing is cities and states imposing a tariff on Amazon, which will be passed on the consumer and raise prices and encourage people to shop local?
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Post by bxjetfan on Aug 6, 2019 13:30:51 GMT -5
If all of the empty retail space was filled taxes could drop because of all the additional revenue coming in. (Whether politicians would is another matter) Right now Amazon has a huge competitive advantage because they negotiate tax breaks before they open these huge distribution centers. They pay no property taxes in exchange for jobs. In effect they are unfairly handicapping two communities with their business practices. I dont have the answer but what is happening now isn't right. Even if Amazon didn't get tax breaks, and things were more expensive there, I would probably still choose them over the local brick and mortar due to convenience. If the playing field was leveled, maybe local retailers could compete.
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Post by Hotman on Aug 6, 2019 13:33:30 GMT -5
Let's raise the prices on EVERYTHING to complete the destruction of the middle! Yay!!
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Post by bxjetfan on Aug 6, 2019 13:38:33 GMT -5
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Post by BEAC0NJET on Aug 6, 2019 13:40:19 GMT -5
Even if Amazon didn't get tax breaks, and things were more expensive there, I would probably still choose them over the local brick and mortar due to convenience. If the playing field was leveled, maybe local retailers could compete. Even with a level playing field, and prices were exactly equal, Id choose Amazon over the local store 95/100 times. Even if Amazon was more expensive, Id choose them 90/100. In the past three months, from Amazon Ive bought pantry items, hardware items, automotive items, cleaning supplies, stuff for my pool, my bbq, and my wife has bought clothing. All from home, with a couple of clicks. Saved hours in total transit time, time in the store, not to mention avoiding crowds and annoying sales people. And not just Amazon... other retailers and local grocery stores that have brick and mortars, but offer online shopping, giddyup. If I can avoid having to go somewhere, I'll pay extra. Its progress. I feel bad for the local small business owner, but unless you provide a unique service, adapt or perish. Same reason people go to Home Depot over the local hw store. If i can make one stop and get 5 things, thats better than 5 stops to get 5 things. Aggregation.
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Post by bxjetfan on Aug 6, 2019 13:45:47 GMT -5
Let's raise the prices on EVERYTHING to complete the destruction of the middle! Yay!! Let's outlaw manufacturing in the US so we get the cheapest price on everything! I don't begruge any company making a profit but fuck these vampire squids. (Stole that from a wall street writer describing Golman Sachs)
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Post by bxjetfan on Aug 6, 2019 13:51:17 GMT -5
If the playing field was leveled, maybe local retailers could compete. Even with a level playing field, and prices were exactly equal, Id choose Amazon over the local store 95/100 times. Even if Amazon was more expensive, Id choose them 90/100. In the past three months, from Amazon Ive bought pantry items, hardware items, automotive items, cleaning supplies, stuff for my pool, my bbq, and my wife has bought clothing. All from home, with a couple of clicks. Saved hours in total transit time, time in the store, not to mention avoiding crowds and annoying sales people. And not just Amazon... other retailers and local grocery stores that have brick and mortars, but offer online shopping, giddyup. If I can avoid having to go somewhere, I'll pay extra. Its progress. I feel bad for the local small business owner, but unless you provide a unique service, adapt or perish. Same reason people go to Home Depot over the local hw store. If i can make one stop and get 5 things, thats better than 5 stops to get 5 things. Aggregation. If mom and pops could afford free delivery and prices were the same, you wouldnt support local merchants? The people that give your kids summer jobs, support shit like little league and pay payroll taxes? Sure you would. Amazon offers that precisely because they don't pay that other shit.
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Post by Trades on Aug 6, 2019 14:04:35 GMT -5
Even with a level playing field, and prices were exactly equal, Id choose Amazon over the local store 95/100 times. Even if Amazon was more expensive, Id choose them 90/100. In the past three months, from Amazon Ive bought pantry items, hardware items, automotive items, cleaning supplies, stuff for my pool, my bbq, and my wife has bought clothing. All from home, with a couple of clicks. Saved hours in total transit time, time in the store, not to mention avoiding crowds and annoying sales people. And not just Amazon... other retailers and local grocery stores that have brick and mortars, but offer online shopping, giddyup. If I can avoid having to go somewhere, I'll pay extra. Its progress. I feel bad for the local small business owner, but unless you provide a unique service, adapt or perish. Same reason people go to Home Depot over the local hw store. If i can make one stop and get 5 things, thats better than 5 stops to get 5 things. Aggregation. If mom and pops could afford free delivery and prices were the same, you wouldnt support local merchants? The people that give your kids summer jobs, support shit like little league and pay payroll taxes? Sure you would. Amazon offers that precisely because they don't pay that other shit. Amazon employs almost 600,000 people and they have to pay payroll taxes for all of those people. Not to mention the people that have jobs indirectly because of Amazon like the increased volume at the USPS, UPS and FedEx. All the Amazon partners and sellers also make money because of Amazon. Then consider the Amazon cloud services and the business that have spun up supporting, developing and reselling AWS. Also consider Bezo's other businesses that were created only because he had the resources created by Amazon. They are an amazing business model. They use the laws and political favor that their company size allows. My grandparents owned a used book store in Stroudsburg PA back in the 70s and 80s. I still remember them complaining that there was a mall being built and how Walden books was going to put them out of business. They complained that the town had metered parking which made it harder for them to compete. Ultimately they closed because of failing health more than anything else. My point is that there will always be competition and the company that today seems to be a juggernaught could go away because of a new disrupting technology. The key is to adapt. Now go post that on your MySpace wall or use AOL IM to tell your friends about it.
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Post by BEAC0NJET on Aug 6, 2019 14:28:09 GMT -5
Even with a level playing field, and prices were exactly equal, Id choose Amazon over the local store 95/100 times. Even if Amazon was more expensive, Id choose them 90/100. In the past three months, from Amazon Ive bought pantry items, hardware items, automotive items, cleaning supplies, stuff for my pool, my bbq, and my wife has bought clothing. All from home, with a couple of clicks. Saved hours in total transit time, time in the store, not to mention avoiding crowds and annoying sales people. And not just Amazon... other retailers and local grocery stores that have brick and mortars, but offer online shopping, giddyup. If I can avoid having to go somewhere, I'll pay extra. Its progress. I feel bad for the local small business owner, but unless you provide a unique service, adapt or perish. Same reason people go to Home Depot over the local hw store. If i can make one stop and get 5 things, thats better than 5 stops to get 5 things. Aggregation. If mom and pops could afford free delivery and prices were the same, you wouldnt support local merchants? The people that give your kids summer jobs, support shit like little league and pay payroll taxes? Sure you would. Amazon offers that precisely because they don't pay that other shit. I dont have kids, so some of that stuff i couldn't care less about. But sure, I guess i would consider it. I don't want to see Main Street sitting vacant and boarded up. But businesses come and go. My local main street, about 10 years ago the hardware store closed, couldn't compete with people going to Home Depot. It was replaced by a specialty restaurant, to my point of offering a unique service that I can't get online. Hopefully rising minimum wages doesn't drive those places out of business. I guess you could say its gentrification. But there is something to be said for being able to sit down and in one 15 minute session at home and order wasp spray, pool floats, food items and windshield wipers, pay one time, and even get money back with my Amazon Rewards CC
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Post by BEAC0NJET on Aug 6, 2019 14:33:00 GMT -5
On the Amazon topic, they now offer free returns at a local Kohl's. Have to say, its a brilliant symbiotic partnership. It gets you in the Kohls store, to save money on the return. You're likely to spend money there, since you went, and on top of that, Kohl's gives you a 25% off coupon good for a week with every return, to encourage you to spend more money.
Everyone rants about Amazon being this monopolistic behemoth. Someone will come along, someday, and knock them off. Until then, they employ a shit ton of people, who then spend their wages and pay taxes.
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Post by bxjetfan on Aug 6, 2019 14:39:58 GMT -5
If mom and pops could afford free delivery and prices were the same, you wouldnt support local merchants? The people that give your kids summer jobs, support shit like little league and pay payroll taxes? Sure you would. Amazon offers that precisely because they don't pay that other shit. Amazon employs almost 600,000 people and they have to pay payroll taxes for all of those people. Not to mention the people that have jobs indirectly because of Amazon like the increased volume at the USPS, UPS and FedEx. All the Amazon partners and sellers also make money because of Amazon. Then consider the Amazon cloud services and the business that have spun up supporting, developing and reselling AWS. Also consider Bezo's other businesses that were created only because he had the resources created by Amazon. They are an amazing business model. They use the laws and political favor that their company size allows. My grandparents owned a used book store in Stroudsburg PA back in the 70s and 80s. I still remember them complaining that there was a mall being built and how Walden books was going to put them out of business. They complained that the town had metered parking which made it harder for them to compete. Ultimately they closed because of failing health more than anything else. My point is that there will always be competition and the company that today seems to be a juggernaught could go away because of a new disrupting technology. The key is to adapt. Now go post that on your MySpace wall or use AOL IM to tell your friends about it. That's my point. All these local communities take it in the shorts. First they lose the payroll taxes, then they lose the additional sales taxes by that money not being recycled through the community again and again. Its just a nasty death spiral.
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