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Post by JetRepulsion1 on Jun 24, 2022 23:28:33 GMT -5
I’m fucking done with the left and their evil nonsense. Seriously - I’m ready and waiting for the great divorce. As I’ve stated a number of times, they can have NY, Illinois and Cali and rename their new country the “Woke Cunts of Land Stolen From Native Americans” and the rest of us will remain the “Real United States of America”. Fuck ‘em. I hate their motherfucking guts.
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Post by Touchable on Jun 25, 2022 4:51:02 GMT -5
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Post by Raoul Duke on Jun 25, 2022 7:22:09 GMT -5
The Hampur delivers...That's fucked up and quite honestly I had no idea. This should be explained. You guys are being raked over the coals. I hope though this is a step back to put something in place more humane for women and unborn as well. That is the thing. This is not making abortion illegal. It is giving the 50 states the right to set their own laws as it is written in the constitution 10th Amendment. Blue states will still allow abortion until birth. Red states may out law or seriously curtail it. Most will fall somewhere in the middle and it will be up to voters to decide which platform on abortion they will support. After thinking about this I think this shouldn't be decided at states level. Having no right to an abortion in some states is just as fucked up as being able to abort all the way to due date. They should just drop the hammer and say there is a right to abort under these guidelines. JMO
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Post by Jetworks on Jun 25, 2022 7:52:49 GMT -5
That is the thing. This is not making abortion illegal. It is giving the 50 states the right to set their own laws as it is written in the constitution 10th Amendment. Blue states will still allow abortion until birth. Red states may out law or seriously curtail it. Most will fall somewhere in the middle and it will be up to voters to decide which platform on abortion they will support. After thinking about this I think this shouldn't be decided at states level. Having no right to an abortion in some states is just as fucked up as being able to abort all the way to due date. They should just drop the hammer and say there is a right to abort under these guidelines. JMO I'm a pro-choice person (up to a point). That said, I was told that I can "go work somewhere else" or "find another job" if I didn't want to get a vaccine that all the supporting science said I didn't need, this after my stint of "you're all heroes" during Covid. So, you'll forgive me if I say that I am not at all sympathetic to someone having to travel a bit to end a pregnancy, especially if it's a choice to do so.
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Post by Trades on Jun 25, 2022 7:55:54 GMT -5
That is the thing. This is not making abortion illegal. It is giving the 50 states the right to set their own laws as it is written in the constitution 10th Amendment. Blue states will still allow abortion until birth. Red states may out law or seriously curtail it. Most will fall somewhere in the middle and it will be up to voters to decide which platform on abortion they will support. After thinking about this I think this shouldn't be decided at states level. Having no right to an abortion in some states is just as fucked up as being able to abort all the way to due date. They should just drop the hammer and say there is a right to abort under these guidelines. JMO I would agree but last time we gave an inch they took a mile. I expect the house and Senate to put some bills out but I don't see them gaining traction. There is always the ability to travel to another state to get an abortion. Some companies are even talking about finding it for employees.
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Post by Trades on Jun 25, 2022 7:58:24 GMT -5
The media is going full out lying about this too. I saw a headline yesterday about "American woman denied abortion after partial miscarriage". Read the article and she is in Spain! They are just counting on people reading the headline, getting upset and moving on.
(Edit) She was on vacation in Malta and went to Spain for the abortion.
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Post by Raoul Duke on Jun 25, 2022 8:07:44 GMT -5
After thinking about this I think this shouldn't be decided at states level. Having no right to an abortion in some states is just as fucked up as being able to abort all the way to due date. They should just drop the hammer and say there is a right to abort under these guidelines. JMO I'm a pro-choice person (up to a point). That said, I was told that I can "go work somewhere else" or "find another job" if I didn't want to get a vaccine that all the supporting science said I didn't need, this after my stint of "you're all heroes" during Covid. So, you'll forgive me if I say that I am not at all sympathetic to someone having to travel a bit to end a pregnancy, especially if it's a choice to do so. I totally agree, but as a foreigner it seems odd to have such opposites within the same country.Let states decide speed limits or whatever but some things need to have a common denominator.
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Post by DDNYjets on Jun 25, 2022 8:28:14 GMT -5
Hate to admit to being so black-pilled but I did have abortion tourism on my bingo card. Already have Governors promoting being abortion destinations.
Think about how fast things progress. 5 years ago if I told you that allowing elective abortion in the 3rd trimester would be a mainstream sentiment for a political party would you have believed me?
There is a price to pay for this. History has taught us that.
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Post by DDNYjets on Jun 25, 2022 8:32:06 GMT -5
I'm a pro-choice person (up to a point). That said, I was told that I can "go work somewhere else" or "find another job" if I didn't want to get a vaccine that all the supporting science said I didn't need, this after my stint of "you're all heroes" during Covid. So, you'll forgive me if I say that I am not at all sympathetic to someone having to travel a bit to end a pregnancy, especially if it's a choice to do so. I totally agree, but as a foreigner it seems odd to have such opposites within the same country.Let states decide speed limits or whatever but some things need to have a common denominator.
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Post by Raoul Duke on Jun 25, 2022 8:46:15 GMT -5
I totally agree, but as a foreigner it seems odd to have such opposites within the same country.Let states decide speed limits or whatever but some things need to have a common denominator. Lol touché...though I don't think you can compare historically and culturally the differences between each European country with those of American states.I get your point. I love the US but hate seeing you guys be so divided on so many topics.
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Post by southparkcpa on Jun 25, 2022 9:32:30 GMT -5
I'm a pro-choice person (up to a point). That said, I was told that I can "go work somewhere else" or "find another job" if I didn't want to get a vaccine that all the supporting science said I didn't need, this after my stint of "you're all heroes" during Covid. So, you'll forgive me if I say that I am not at all sympathetic to someone having to travel a bit to end a pregnancy, especially if it's a choice to do so. I totally agree, but as a foreigner it seems odd to have such opposites within the same country.Let states decide speed limits or whatever but some things need to have a common denominator. That was the genius of the founding fathers... try to de centralize federal power. Power to the states EXCEPT where enumerated in the constitution.
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Post by DDNYjets on Jun 25, 2022 9:48:57 GMT -5
Lol touché...though I don't think you can compare historically and culturally the differences between each European country with those of American states.I get your point. I love the US but hate seeing you guys be so divided on so many topics. We'll be fine. If you cant get an abortion in Texas, the governor of California will make sure their taxpayers pay for your flight and hotel. And if you decide to have the baby you will still be able to chemically castrate them when they are 5.
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Post by bxjetfan on Jun 25, 2022 10:18:51 GMT -5
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Post by Touchable on Jun 25, 2022 11:46:03 GMT -5
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Post by DDNYjets on Jun 25, 2022 12:21:10 GMT -5
What an absolute legend.
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