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Post by bxjetfan on Aug 18, 2017 17:22:20 GMT -5
I'll finish this on edit, it got too long LOL. Thanks for leaving spaces though.
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Post by bxjetfan on Aug 18, 2017 17:42:04 GMT -5
Controversial to who? The people who write the stories and whine on TV. They are the gatekeepers who move the goal posts to suit their agendas. Its all editorializing. 90% of the news has become op-eds. People dont know the difference anymore. If you want to pick a couple things from your list that actually have meaning to the country and debate them I would be happy to. They all have meaning to the country. He's not some nobody who can just say and do things and they don't matter. He's POTUS. Every single thing he says and does have meaning to the country because of his position. He represents all of us. One of the biggest issues brought up during the debates was whether he has the temperament for the job. He doesn't. He didn't then and he doesn't now. And it doesn't seem like he's learning from his mistakes because he keeps on making them. Don't believe me? Watch the president go on twitter tomorrow morning and attack everyone like he's some internet troll. And the next day, then the next day after that, and then the next day after that. It's something new every day and it never ends. Trump was elected to get shit done. Temperament is bullshit. The guy is who he is and he isn't gonna change. You act like that upsets us Trump supporters. It doesn't. Almost all of Europe is fucking up with this immigration thing. You think we are surprised that they condemn him? We aren't, and the European people are waking up. I just hope it's not to late. From my viewpoint Trump is leading. |
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Post by Frank Reynolds on Aug 18, 2017 17:50:41 GMT -5
They all have meaning to the country. He's not some nobody who can just say and do things and they don't matter. He's POTUS. Every single thing he says and does have meaning to the country because of his position. He represents all of us. One of the biggest issues brought up during the debates was whether he has the temperament for the job. He doesn't. He didn't then and he doesn't now. And it doesn't seem like he's learning from his mistakes because he keeps on making them. Don't believe me? Watch the president go on twitter tomorrow morning and attack everyone like he's some internet troll. And the next day, then the next day after that, and then the next day after that. It's something new every day and it never ends. Trump was elected to get shit done. Temperament is bullshit. The guy is who he is and he isn't gonna change. You act like that upsets us Trump supporters. It doesn't. Almost all of Europe is fucking up with this immigration thing. You think we are surprised that they condemn him? We aren't, and the European people are waking up. I just hope it's not to late. From my viewpoint Trump is leading. Oh i know it doesn't upset you guys. Nothing he could ever say or do could change that. |
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Post by Jets Things on Aug 18, 2017 18:02:29 GMT -5
Trump was elected to get shit done. Temperament is bullshit. The guy is who he is and he isn't gonna change. You act like that upsets us Trump supporters. It doesn't. Almost all of Europe is fucking up with this immigration thing. You think we are surprised that they condemn him? We aren't, and the European people are waking up. I just hope it's not to late. From my viewpoint Trump is leading. Oh i know it doesn't upset you guys. Nothing he could ever say or do could change that. Not being a whiney pussy allows one to see the forest through the trees. |
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Post by Frank Reynolds on Aug 18, 2017 18:10:31 GMT -5
Oh i know it doesn't upset you guys. Nothing he could ever say or do could change that. Not being a whiney pussy allows one to see the forest through the trees. Because the right weren't whiney pussies for the previous 8 years or anything. |
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Post by DDNYjets on Aug 18, 2017 18:16:41 GMT -5
Controversial to who? The people who write the stories and whine on TV. They are the gatekeepers who move the goal posts to suit their agendas. Its all editorializing. 90% of the news has become op-eds. People dont know the difference anymore. If you want to pick a couple things from your list that actually have meaning to the country and debate them I would be happy to. They all have meaning to the country. He's not some nobody who can just say and do things and they don't matter. He's POTUS. Every single thing he says and does have meaning to the country because of his position. He represents all of us. One of the biggest issues brought up during the debates was whether he has the temperament for the job. He doesn't. He didn't then and he doesn't now. And it doesn't seem like he's learning from his mistakes because he keeps on making them. Don't believe me? Watch the president go on twitter tomorrow morning and attack everyone like he's some internet troll. And the next day, then the next day after that, and then the next day after that. It's something new every day and it never ends. OK. So basically you are OK with terrible things so long as they come in nice packaging. And that packaging is delivered with a smile. Be told everything is going to be fine. If you like your doctor your can keep your doctor. Your premiums are going to drop $2500. The war in Iraq and Afghanistan is over. No boots on the ground. The world is safer with the Iran nuclear deal. We did not pay a ransom to Iran. The Islamic State is not Islamic. Build bridges, not walls. All those were said with great temperament. Stone cold. Straight faced. |
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Post by Big L on Aug 18, 2017 18:24:29 GMT -5
^^ the pallets of euros to Iran was for something we allegedly owed Iran from like 30 years ago. Not sure it was a 30 yr old ransom.
Personally I would have told Iran to go fuck themselves
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Post by Jets Things on Aug 18, 2017 18:43:48 GMT -5
Not being a whiney pussy allows one to see the forest through the trees. Because the right weren't whiney pussies for the previous 8 years or anything. It's not considered whining when the president wipes his ass with the Constitution and waves executive privilege around like its a bodily function. Speaking of the previous 8 years, why weren't all these statues taken down when Obozo was in office? Probably because he hadn't yet totally destroyed race relations in this country, but at least his legacy is showing now. |
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Post by bxjetfan on Aug 18, 2017 18:52:32 GMT -5
Not being a whiney pussy allows one to see the forest through the trees. Because the right weren't whiney pussies for the previous 8 years or anything. What was the right "whining about"? I really want to hear what you have to say here. I'm aware that the right was upset about Beghazi, the weaponizing of the IRS, and the fast and the furious for starters, what else you got. If you come up with something I agree with ill tell you. |
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Post by Frank Reynolds on Aug 18, 2017 19:01:49 GMT -5
Because the right weren't whiney pussies for the previous 8 years or anything. What was the right "whining about"? I really want to hear what you have to say here. I'm aware that the right was upset about Beghazi, the weaponizing of the IRS, and the fast and the furious for starters, what else you got. If you come up with something I agree with ill tell you. Please... what weren't you guys whining about that obama did? You hated obamacare and wanted it gone the second you heard about it. The witch hunt for birth certificates. Blaming obama for every single thing the right wasn't happy about. The same way the left complains about trump, the right complained about obama. You're in denial if you think otherwise. I'm in denial if I think it doesn't apply about trump, so i understand it works both ways. |
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Post by Frank Reynolds on Aug 18, 2017 19:07:48 GMT -5
They all have meaning to the country. He's not some nobody who can just say and do things and they don't matter. He's POTUS. Every single thing he says and does have meaning to the country because of his position. He represents all of us. One of the biggest issues brought up during the debates was whether he has the temperament for the job. He doesn't. He didn't then and he doesn't now. And it doesn't seem like he's learning from his mistakes because he keeps on making them. Don't believe me? Watch the president go on twitter tomorrow morning and attack everyone like he's some internet troll. And the next day, then the next day after that, and then the next day after that. It's something new every day and it never ends. OK. So basically you are OK with terrible things so long as they come in nice packaging. And that packaging is delivered with a smile. Be told everything is going to be fine. If you like your doctor your can keep your doctor. Your premiums are going to drop $2500. The war in Iraq and Afghanistan is over. No boots on the ground. The world is safer with the Iran nuclear deal. We did not pay a ransom to Iran. The Islamic State is not Islamic. Build bridges, not walls. All those were said with great temperament. Stone cold. Straight faced. Never said obama or obamacare was perfect. I do think it was a step in the right direction. It has saved lives and there's no denying that. It got people from having no or only catastrophic insurance to having real insurance. It was definitely a step in the right direction whether you want to agree or not. Now the republicans have a chance to at least fix what they've been bitching about for years and they're falling flat on their face. If it were so easy, why hasn't trump and a republican house and senate been able to do anything better? They've only had 8 years to prepare. I absolutely do think obama was a much better president than trump is or ever will be. He took over at a terrible time and got the economy going in the right direction. I know we've gone in circles about this before, but those 401k's you guys are loving right now, you know who you can thank for that. He did a lot of good things. Was not perfect. |
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Post by bxjetfan on Aug 18, 2017 19:09:03 GMT -5
What was the right "whining about"? I really want to hear what you have to say here. I'm aware that the right was upset about Beghazi, the weaponizing of the IRS, and the fast and the furious for starters, what else you got. If you come up with something I agree with ill tell you. Please... what weren't you guys whining about that obama did? You hated obamacare and wanted it gone the second you heard about it. The witch hunt for birth certificates. Blaming obama for every single thing the right wasn't happy about. The same way the left complains about trump, the right complained about obama. You're in denial if you think otherwise. I'm in denial if I think it doesn't apply about trump, so i understand it works both ways. Are you going to deny Obamacare is a disaster? The man lied to the entire country to get that passed. Actually Hillary started the birth certificate issue, so I guess we just picked up where the Dems left off. That's two, that's all we whined about in eight years? |
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Post by Trades on Aug 18, 2017 19:14:03 GMT -5
Please... what weren't you guys whining about that obama did? You hated obamacare and wanted it gone the second you heard about it. The witch hunt for birth certificates. Blaming obama for every single thing the right wasn't happy about. The same way the left complains about trump, the right complained about obama. You're in denial if you think otherwise. I'm in denial if I think it doesn't apply about trump, so i understand it works both ways. Are you going to deny Obamacare is a disaster? The man lied to the entire country to get that passed. Actually Hillary started the birth certificate issue, so I guess we just picked up where the Dems left off. That's two, that's all we whined about in eight years? Hillary and Obama also officially contested McCain's birth certificate and citizenship. |
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Post by bxjetfan on Aug 18, 2017 19:15:18 GMT -5
OK. So basically you are OK with terrible things so long as they come in nice packaging. And that packaging is delivered with a smile. Be told everything is going to be fine. If you like your doctor your can keep your doctor. Your premiums are going to drop $2500. The war in Iraq and Afghanistan is over. No boots on the ground. The world is safer with the Iran nuclear deal. We did not pay a ransom to Iran. The Islamic State is not Islamic. Build bridges, not walls. All those were said with great temperament. Stone cold. Straight faced. Never said obama or obamacare was perfect. I do think it was a step in the right direction. It has saved lives and there's no denying that. It got people from having no or only catastrophic insurance to having real insurance. It was definitely a step in the right direction whether you want to agree or not. Now the republicans have a chance to at least fix what they've been bitching about for years and they're falling flat on their face. If it were so easy, why hasn't trump and a republican house and senate been able to do anything better? They've only had 8 years to prepare. I absolutely do think obama was a much better president than trump is or ever will be. He took over at a terrible time and got the economy going in the right direction. I know we've gone in circles about this before, but those 401k's you guys are loving right now, you know who you can thank for that. He did a lot of good things. Was not perfect. You have a link to a respectable source that shows it saves lives? Yeah, the economy was in the shitter when he took over, so there really was nowhere to go but up. Trump has turbocharged the economy in the time he's been in office. Reducing regulations, lowering energy costs and just talking about lowering taxes has companies relocating to the USA to take advantage of the business friendly environment that he is creating. Look at Obamas GDP growth rate while he was in office. It sucked. |
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Post by Big L on Aug 18, 2017 19:15:31 GMT -5
Because the right weren't whiney pussies for the previous 8 years or anything. It's not considered whining when the president wipes his ass with the Constitution and waves executive privilege around like its a bodily function. You talking about obama or trump? |
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