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Post by 32Green on Sept 17, 2017 20:25:34 GMT -5
Idzik, Mac...Bowles..shared stadium with the Giants again....who is responsible? Fucken Woody needs to divest himself of this team. He apparently doesnt have the least instinct for hiring the right people, setting the right tone or changing the culture.
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Post by JStokes on Sept 17, 2017 20:28:38 GMT -5
Idzik is the worst GM in Jets history. When all is said and done it's gonna be close. Idzik would have never fielded a team this bad if given a third year AND I'm not trying too stick up for Idzik, because he was utter trash. The dude had 12 picks in the year of the QB and the year of the WR. And he got us Jalen Sanders. He passed on Carr and Teddy. It will never be close. _
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Post by RobR on Sept 17, 2017 20:29:46 GMT -5
But odds are if the Jets land Darnold/Rosen, use the bulk of our FA cash to bolster the WR corps, running game and OL (Allen Robinson, Carlos Hyde, Travis Swanson...just an example) and find a way to land a legitimate LT...the future is looking bright regardless. Have you seen his results in free agency so far? We'd be signing Larry Fitzgerald and Adrian Peterson. Too think he might bolster all of those positions with large amounts of cap money is reliving 2015 all over again. Guy doesn't have a clue in free agency and that is a proven fact.
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Post by JStokes on Sept 17, 2017 20:30:00 GMT -5
Idzik, Mac...Bowles..shared stadium with the Giants again....who is responsible? Fucken Woody needs to divest himself of this team. He apparently doesnt have the least instinct for hiring the right people, setting the right tone or changing the culture. You should organize a boycott. Always successful. So glad we forced the Wilpons to sell the Mets. _
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Post by JStokes on Sept 17, 2017 20:30:46 GMT -5
But odds are if the Jets land Darnold/Rosen, use the bulk of our FA cash to bolster the WR corps, running game and OL (Allen Robinson, Carlos Hyde, Travis Swanson...just an example) and find a way to land a legitimate LT...the future is looking bright regardless. Have you seen his results in free agency so far? We'd be signing Larry Fitzgerald and Adrian Peterson. Too think he might bolster all of those positions with large amounts of cap money is reliving 2015 all over again. Guy doesn't have a clue in free agency and that is a proven fact. You know we're signing Bradford. Or Alex Smith. _
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Post by RobR on Sept 17, 2017 20:31:07 GMT -5
When all is said and done it's gonna be close. Idzik would have never fielded a team this bad if given a third year AND I'm not trying too stick up for Idzik, because he was utter trash. The dude had 12 picks in the year of the QB and the year of the WR. And he got us Jalen Sanders. He passed on Carr and Teddy. It will never be close. _ It's sad that we have to argue levels of suckiness.
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Post by JStokes on Sept 17, 2017 20:32:08 GMT -5
The dude had 12 picks in the year of the QB and the year of the WR. And he got us Jalen Sanders. He passed on Carr and Teddy. It will never be close. _ It's sad that we have to argue levels of suckiness. I'll allow this. _
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Post by Touchable on Sept 17, 2017 20:36:52 GMT -5
But odds are if the Jets land Darnold/Rosen, use the bulk of our FA cash to bolster the WR corps, running game and OL (Allen Robinson, Carlos Hyde, Travis Swanson...just an example) and find a way to land a legitimate LT...the future is looking bright regardless. Have you seen his results in free agency so far? We'd be signing Larry Fitzgerald and Adrian Peterson. Too think he might bolster all of those positions with large amounts of cap money is reliving 2015 all over again. Guy doesn't have a clue in free agency and that is a proven fact. Hey, I'm with you. Give me the cotton candy clouds scenario, and I have someone like Harbaugh, Arians or Payton running this bitch with ultimate power. My backup plan and almost as scrumptious? Let me go for John Dorsey running the upstairs with Todd Haley/Scott Linehan bringing up our prized young QB. But when faced with the question of keeping Bowles or Maccagnan, especially in regards to developing a prized, young QB? Then hell yeah, Macc daddy all day.
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Post by RobR on Sept 17, 2017 20:43:54 GMT -5
Have you seen his results in free agency so far? We'd be signing Larry Fitzgerald and Adrian Peterson. Too think he might bolster all of those positions with large amounts of cap money is reliving 2015 all over again. Guy doesn't have a clue in free agency and that is a proven fact. Hey, I'm with you. Give me the cotton candy clouds scenario, and I have someone like Harbaugh, Arians or Payton running this bitch with ultimate power. My backup plan and almost as scrumptious? Let me go for John Dorsey running the upstairs with Todd Haley/Scott Linehan bringing up our prized young QB. But when faced with the question of keeping Bowles or Maccagnan, especially in regards to developing a prized, young QB? Then hell yeah, Macc daddy all day. I know, just venting after watching another shitfest. My biggest fear is they both come back so that is why I'm rooting for total implosion.....something that brings us too a point that both of them must be fired. So far we're 2 for 2.
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Post by shakin on Sept 17, 2017 20:44:20 GMT -5
It's sad that we have to argue levels of suckiness. I'll allow this. _ don't start stealing my shit starsky wtf
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Post by shakin on Sept 17, 2017 20:46:24 GMT -5
Hey, I'm with you. Give me the cotton candy clouds scenario, and I have someone like Harbaugh, Arians or Payton running this bitch with ultimate power. My backup plan and almost as scrumptious? Let me go for John Dorsey running the upstairs with Todd Haley/Scott Linehan bringing up our prized young QB. But when faced with the question of keeping Bowles or Maccagnan, especially in regards to developing a prized, young QB? Then hell yeah, Macc daddy all day. I know, just venting after watching another shitfest. My biggest fear is they both come back so that is why I'm rooting for total implosion.....something that brings us too a point that both of them must be fired. So far we're 2 for 2. to me this was the perfect day here in 017 they were sorta competitive, it wasn't as bad as the final score said but they still lost which is fucking awesome the only fuckup was not dressing hackenblort and giving him the fourth quarter 0-2, right where we want to be
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Post by JStokes on Sept 17, 2017 20:52:08 GMT -5
don't start stealing my shit starsky wtf It's a great fucking line. _
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Post by JStokes on Sept 17, 2017 20:52:54 GMT -5
I know, just venting after watching another shitfest. My biggest fear is they both come back so that is why I'm rooting for total implosion.....something that brings us too a point that both of them must be fired. So far we're 2 for 2. to me this was the perfect day here in 017 they were sorta competitive, it wasn't as bad as the final score said but they still lost which is fucking awesome the only fuckup was not dressing hackenblort and giving him the fourth quarter 0-2, right where we want to be I'll allow this. Because it's true. Common. _
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Post by maury77 on Sept 17, 2017 21:16:10 GMT -5
I'd rate Maccagnan as mediocre (so far), but he's not nearly as bad as Idzik was.
In 2015, we were coming off a season where Idzik was run out of town for maybe the worst draft in team history (12 picks and not one starter aside from Enunwa) and sitting on a bunch of cap space. Maccagnan comes in with pressure to perform right off the bat, tries to make a quick run and gets the Jets from 5-11 to 10-6. Had the team won in week 17, its a playoff season. Maccagnan wins executive of the year.
His rookie class had one hit (Williams) 2 guys in Smith and Mauldin whose careers were derailed by injuries (that's bad luck) and Petty, who looks like a passable backup QB. Thats a mediocre draft.
In 2016, we tried to make one last playoff push and it blew up in our face. FA was horrible and the draft was horrible due to Lee and Hack. Jenkins, Robby Anderson and Edwards look like ok pickups, but it was a shit draft because of the first 2 rounds.
In 2017, we all knew it was tank time and most of us applauded it. Now we are complaining that the team is not competitive. Would we be more competitive with Decker and David Harris still on the team? Probably, but that would not be in the team's best interest long term.
However, his 2017 draft looks promising, Adams and Maye have looked good through 2 games. Stewart and Hansen looked pretty good in preseason and, sooner rather than later, we will see them in game action. Leggett also had a pretty good preseason. McGuire has flashed.
We knew what we were getting into this season.
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Post by RobR on Sept 17, 2017 21:18:20 GMT -5
I know, just venting after watching another shitfest. My biggest fear is they both come back so that is why I'm rooting for total implosion.....something that brings us too a point that both of them must be fired. So far we're 2 for 2. to me this was the perfect day here in 017 they were sorta competitive, it wasn't as bad as the final score said but they still lost which is fucking awesome the only fuckup was not dressing hackenblort and giving him the fourth quarter 0-2, right where we want to be It wasn't competitive because yet again we were almost outgained 2:1 yardage wise. Without some bad personal foul calls against Oakland early it would have been even worse. The rest I'm in total agreement.
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